Can we have a playoff? The NCAA may have no say in the matter.

Congress wants Justice Department to probe BCS

Glad those SOBs in Washington continue to solve our real problems.

gas is 3.41 a gallon, but Idaho is now eligable for Fiesta bowl

templefootballfan Wrote:gas is 3.41 a gallon, but Idaho is now eligable for Fiesta bowl

Didn't they say 3.50 today? And don't forget that we're still losing thousands of Americans overseas.

This topic is being discussed on another board as well...here's a link:

http://forums.nationalchamps.net/boards/...php?t=2178

Basically, I think the only item Congress can really make a case against is how Autobids are determined

6 conferences have them, 5 don't

Why?

templefootballfan Wrote:gas is 3.41 a gallon, but Idaho is now eligable for Fiesta bowl

And for those that want to whine about gas prices, I've got a nice thread for you too:

http://forums.nationalchamps.net/boards/...php?t=2168

Exactly what the phuck would Congress do about gas prices?

EvilVodka1 Wrote:This topic is being discussed on another board as well...here's a link:

http://forums.nationalchamps.net/boards/...php?t=2178

Basically, I think the only item Congress can really make a case against is how Autobids are determined

6 conferences have them, 5 don't

Why?

It is that aspect of it that has Congress looking into it. Since the BCS was created in '98, there has been controversy. In 2005, Congress held a hearing on the BCS. But nothing meaningful came of it (typical of Congress), and I expect the same will hold true here. Somebody will be paid off, or some other issue will take the public's eye, and this will all be so much dust in the wind.

Anybody notice where the Congressmen pushing this come from? That's as informative as anything else in this matter.

Imagine you are a moron.
Imagine you are a member of Congress.
But I repeat myself.
-Mark Twain

NCAA is supposed to be fair accross the board. The fact that 6 conferences get an automatic seat at the table and the other 5 get 1 is unfair. The BCS Bowls should be limited to the 11 conference champions top ranked Independent.
New Years Day Bowls with equal payouts.
Primetime games
Rose Bowl Big Ten vs PAC Ten ABC 9pm
Orange Bowl ACC vs Big East NBC 7pm
Sugar Bowl SEC vs Notre Dame/Army/Navy CBS 5pm
Fiesta Bowl WAC vs MWC ABC 3 pm
Cotton Bowl Big 12 vs CUSA CBS 1 pm
Gator Bowl MAC vs Sun Belt NBC 11am

BCS Title game would be selected based on computer rankings of top two teams.

There should be no bowls to determine the champion. That should be done in a playoff.

The bowls can be kept around for tradition. But they have no place in the determination of a true national champion.

Jose_Jalapeno_on_a_Stick Wrote:

templefootballfan Wrote:gas is 3.41 a gallon, but Idaho is now eligable for Fiesta bowl

Didn't they say 3.50 today? And don't forget that we're still losing thousands of Americans overseas.

interesting tid bit.. Bush took office in jan 2001 gas was 1.50 per gallon. 6 years later in jan 2007 when dems took both the senate n house it was 221.3 for an increase of 71.3 cents in 6 years.. in april of 2008 it's now 333.9 for an increase of 1.12.6 in less than a year n a 1/2. I say let them screw with the BCS its cheaper.

These are oilmen in the White House. Or did you forget that?

Jose_Jalapeno_on_a_Stick Wrote:Glad those SOBs in Washington continue to solve our real problems.

The BCS is a multi billion dollar industry with NO oversight by any organization but itself.

BCS allows certain teams to have guaranteed access to billions of dollars and keeps other teams, with the same credentials, from having the same access.

Now let us replace the bolded words. BCS = GE, certain teams = white people, other teams = black people.

GE allows white people to have guaranteed access to billions of dollars and keeps black people, with the same credentials, from having the same access.


This is why Congress should have been involved a LONG time ago.

But don't all the teams theoretically hace 'access' now? The only thing I see maybe coming from this is the BCS sharing a percentage of the revenue with the non bcs conf. A small percentage.

TIGER-PAUL Wrote:But don't all the teams theoretically hace 'access' now? The only thing I see maybe coming from this is the BCS sharing a percentage of the revenue with the non bcs conf. A small percentage.

They already do.

But it's so small as to be microscopic - which is probably why most don't know about.

BCS Revenue Distribution Over 5 Year Period

Cheers,
Neil

omnicarrier Wrote:

TIGER-PAUL Wrote:But don't all the teams theoretically hace 'access' now? The only thing I see maybe coming from this is the BCS sharing a percentage of the revenue with the non bcs conf. A small percentage.

They already do.

Token table scraps.

That is why I put "guaranteed" and "same" access.

In no other facet of life would this type of activity be allowed.

How does this sound. This person has access to the bus.......YOU have access to just a small part of the bus?!?!


Giving the "non BCS" schools partial access is equivalent to telling someone they are considered 2/3 of a person. Theorectically they have access......but not really!!

In reality the non-BCS schools get a crap load less than what 2/3 of a BCS school gets.

The BCS has been very damaging to numerous Universities in stature and MONEY!!! Universities that have worked very hard for a very long time to achieve some sort of success. Universities that have played by the exact same rules as every other "NCAA" University. But they are being discriminated against because of nothing more than GREED!!

Topcard91 Wrote:

Jose_Jalapeno_on_a_Stick Wrote:Glad those SOBs in Washington continue to solve our real problems.

The BCS is a multi billion dollar industry with NO oversight by any organization but itself.

BCS allows certain teams to have guaranteed access to billions of dollars and keeps other teams, with the same credentials, from having the same access.

Now let us replace the bolded words. BCS = GE, certain teams = white people, other teams = black people.

GE allows white people to have guaranteed access to billions of dollars and keeps black people, with the same credentials, from having the same access.

This is why Congress should have been involved a LONG time ago.

I am disgusted by this analogy. People need to quit trying to compare race to every issue of the day. The BCS can't be compared to racism. Neither can gay stuff. Both attempted comparisons, and many more, just make me sick.

This type of wording trivializes what Black people have gone through in the history of this nation and I will not stand for that. You should have said rich people and poor people. That is what the BCS is really about. Class. Not race.

GE allows rich people to have guaranteed access to billions of dollars and keeps poor people, with the same credentials, from having the same access. Rich people want to keep money. Poor people want to get money. That's life.

Topcard91 Wrote:That is why I put "guaranteed" and "same" access.

In no other facet of life would this type of activity be allowed.

How does this sound. This person has access to the bus.......YOU have access to just a small part of the bus?!?!


Giving the "non BCS" schools partial access is equivalent to telling someone they are considered 2/3 of a person. Theorectically they have access......but not really!!

In reality the non-BCS schools get a crap load less than what 2/3 of a BCS school gets.

The BCS has been very damaging to numerous Universities in stature and MONEY!!! Universities that have worked very hard for a very long time to achieve some sort of success. Universities that have played by the exact same rules as every other "NCAA" University. But they are being discriminated against because of nothing more than GREED!!

In theory the BCS' response could be that the non-BCS could break away and form their own coalition if they wanted to. I don't agree with that, but that could be an argument. The BCS isn't a NCAA creation.

Gray Avenger Wrote:

omnicarrier Wrote:

TIGER-PAUL Wrote:But don't all the teams theoretically hace 'access' now? The only thing I see maybe coming from this is the BCS sharing a percentage of the revenue with the non bcs conf. A small percentage.

They already do.

Token table scraps.

Ummm...that's why my post also contained the following...

But it's so small as to be microscopic - which is probably why most don't know about.

To cut that out of my post to make your statement gives the illusion you are saying something I was not.

Please be careful of that in the future.

Cheers,
Neil

CatsClaw Wrote:

Topcard91 Wrote:That is why I put "guaranteed" and "same" access.

In no other facet of life would this type of activity be allowed.

How does this sound. This person has access to the bus.......YOU have access to just a small part of the bus?!?!


Giving the "non BCS" schools partial access is equivalent to telling someone they are considered 2/3 of a person. Theorectically they have access......but not really!!

In reality the non-BCS schools get a crap load less than what 2/3 of a BCS school gets.

The BCS has been very damaging to numerous Universities in stature and MONEY!!! Universities that have worked very hard for a very long time to achieve some sort of success. Universities that have played by the exact same rules as every other "NCAA" University. But they are being discriminated against because of nothing more than GREED!!

In theory the BCS' response could be that the non-BCS could break away and form their own coalition if they wanted to. I don't agree with that, but that could be an argument. The BCS isn't a NCAA creation.

In actuality the reverse is more likely - the BCS conferences breaking away from the NCAA to form their own collegiate sports organization. Of course, the danger in that is possible government interference/oversight of that organization.

Cheers,
Neil