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Ford and Larranaga turned it down. What will they do? Larry Brown anyone?
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It's not a great job, so no surprise Ford and Larranaga turned it down. It speaks to the strength of the BE, IMO. There are so many top notch teams that whoever gets the job will have a tough time making PC a top conference team. A top CAA or A10 job is better than a lower BE job at this point...maybe they should bring back Pete Gillen.
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PC going to have to get a Big East Asistant coach or something someone who know the NorthEast and can recuite the area. I still think Welsh was a great coach and they needed to give hime some more time, PC was really good this past season until they lost some key players.
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I completely agree Pusher. If PC thinks that gypsy Larry Brown is the answer, but Welsh is not, they’re more f-ed up than I imagined.
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Jose_Jalapeno_on_a_Stick Wrote:I completely agree Pusher. If PC thinks that gypsy Larry Brown is the answer, but Welsh is not, they’re more f-ed up than I imagined.
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they should really take a look at Derek Kellogg from Memphis. He's been the lead recruiter at memphis for years and the head assistant since the departure of tony barbee to UTEP a few years back. He has a northeast connection(played at UMASS) and would be a great fit for the Friars. Just my two cents
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Would they have a shot at URI's coach, Jim Baron? He isn't a master recruiter but is obviously from the area and is one heck of a tactition. He has experience in coaching in the Big East-but that experience stems from his days at Notre Dame as an assistant in the 1980's.

Perhaps Notre Dame fans could give some perspective on him?
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I remember Baron from his days at St. Bonaventure as a coach (he played on the 1977 NIT champ team there too). He was a hard working recruiter and did it cleanly, unlike his successor Jan Van Breda Kopff who was coaching, though cleared by the NCAA, in the welding certificate scandal.
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RE: Providence gig
There’s no need to fret PC fans

01:00 AM EDT on Saturday, April 12, 2008

BY KEVIN McNAMARA

Journal Sports Writer

PROVIDENCE — It’s time for a little reality check for Providence College basketball fans.

They’re frantic these days. They’ve seen their coaching position sit vacant for nearly a month and now the perception is that no one of decent quality wants the job. Offers to two coaches have been turned down. The names circulating through channels close to the search aren’t very sexy. Are things really this bad?

The answer is no. First off, let’s all cut athletic director Bob Driscoll a little slack. He’s the only one who truly knows the ins and outs of the search, who he’s spoken to, who had no interest, who led him along and harmed the process. It’s also hard to criticize Driscoll over the two coaches he focused on and ultimately offered the job to.

George Mason’s Jim Larranaga was a favorite of the college’s for weeks, likely well before Tim Welsh was even fired. He had friends in the upper administration who felt he’d be a great fit and rally the PC community for all the right reasons. Once Mason was bounced from the NCAA Tournament, Driscoll made his move and eventually school president the Rev. Brian Shanley paid a visit to Larranaga’s home in Virginia. Despite being offered what insiders insist was the highest salary ever accorded a Friars coach, Larranaga turned his alma mater down.

Driscoll then talked to at least a half-dozen prospects at the Final Four in San Antonio. Rick Pitino and Billy Donovan were two of the coaches Driscoll spoke with. After trying to entice both coaches into returning to Providence (conversations that while bold were also necessary), it became clear that Travis Ford was available. Ford is a favorite of both Pitino and Billy D. from their days at Kentucky, and since he’d been rumored for weeks for jobs at LSU and South Carolina and therefore termed out of PC’s reach, that was a positive development.

PC would have loved to force Ford to take or leave a generous offer while the two sides spoke in Texas last weekend, but Ford literally had never stepped foot in Providence. He had to see the campus, The Dunk and downtown. That occurred Wednesday. On Thursday, he turned the job down.

Ford went out of his way to praise aspects of the Friars’ program he was unaware of before he met Driscoll.

Contrary to erroneous media reports of substandard facilities, PC is offering a fully rehabbed arena for the 2008-09 season, a new fitness center on campus, a new health and training area and work that’ll spruce up Mullaney Gym in Alumni Hall this summer.

The only reason Ford didn’t come is because he wasn’t up to the challenge. He denied this, of course, but he’s a coach who has won 24 and 25 games the last two years and could not make the NCAAs. The Big East sent eight teams to the NCAAs in March and Ford would earn $300,000 to $400,000 more at PC than UMass.

“No, not at all,” Ford said when asked if the challenge of winning at PC turned him away. “For me, actually that was exciting to me. But I think we have good things going on here [at UMass]. I think we have awoken a lot of people hopefully and I think there’s some business left to do here.”

PC’s Driscoll has publicly said he wants to aim high and find a great fit in his next coach. But was Ford really a home run? He’s 0-3 in the A-10 tourney and had never gotten the Minutemen to the NCAAs. He certainly isn’t a PC fit either. He’s Kentucky blue, through and through, and will ultimately be blowing his whistle in some big gym in the South.

There are some coaches with more accomplishments than Ford who will say yes to PC. Take George Washington’s Karl Hobbs or Florida associate head coach Larry Shyatt, for examples. Hobbs, a Boston native, is an intriguing coach. Throw out this year and PC probably couldn’t touch him. He’d be too good.

Before this year’s 9-17 whitewash, the Colonials won 23, 27, 22 and 18 games while advancing to three NCAA Tournaments and one NIT. Except for Xavier, no other A-10 program has enjoyed more success over the last five seasons.

Shyatt, 57, is the seasoned veteran who’s seen it all. He helped Donovan to national titles in 2006 and ’07 and is credited with stiffening the Gators’ defense. He was an assistant at PC under Rick Barnes and the head coach at Clemson for five years, where he took one team to the NIT finals but never to the NCAAs.

Is there legitimate interest on the part of Hall of Famer Larry Brown? Can Fran Fraschilla make the transition from TV analyst to Big East coach? Has Drake’s Keno Davis turned PC down?

None of those coaches may make your heart skip a beat, but right now, PC isn’t a heart-stopping program. That’s what Driscoll is trying to change, no matter how long it takes.

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The answer is obvious: hire a midmajor coach who is still up and coming (Ford already arrived). This type of guy will be willing to take the risk.

Providence has become a stepping stone and coaches think they can't win there cuz the Big East is so deep.
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RE: Providence gig
I think in this case, Ford is smart.

While he might of made a few more bucks at PC...he knows if he keeps winning at UMASS...he will land a much better job than PC...at probably a larger insitution with a much deeper budget...and will ultimately make a lot more $$$ in the end.

Ford has a much better chance at increased/better offers if he CONTINUES winning at UMASS...vs what offers if he goes from 5-13 to 7-11 in Big East action.
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RE: Providence gig
Providence and Steton Hall are both in over their collective heads in the Big East! The coaching world knows this. St. Johns and Depaul are cose to their level as well. Let's face it Notre Dame, Villanova, Georgetown, and Marquette add Value to the Big East. We should go to 10 teams.

1. UConn
2. Syracuse
3. Rutgers
4. Pittsburgh
5. West Virginia
6. Cincinnati
7. Louisville
8. South Florida
9. Memphis
10. Notre Dame
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KnightLight, I agree. He is a savior there and he landed a good guard, Gibbs. Also he has Gurley next year who started out at Wake. I think they win the A10 next year.
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Travis Ford will be coaching in the SEC eventually just like the article said. Go worship at his altar on the A-10 board while Massachusetts still has him.
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Wilkie01 Wrote:Providence and Steton Hall are both in over their collective heads in the Big East! The coaching world knows this. St. Johns and Depaul are cose to their level as well. Let's face it Notre Dame, Villanova, Georgetown, and Marquette add Value to the Big East. We should go to 10 teams.

1. UConn
2. Syracuse
3. Rutgers
4. Pittsburgh
5. West Virginia
6. Cincinnati
7. Louisville
8. South Florida
9. Memphis
10. Notre Dame

No doubt the Big East has to expand, we need to go to 10, I say kick out Seton Hall and add Memphis all sports and UCF FB only.
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The Big East basketball has a "caste system" IMO.

you have teir I programs that can get any coach and recruite at the highest level programs like G'town,UofL,Syracuse, and Uconn


then you have a bunch of tier II programs that can be good and usuaslly make the NCAAs but lose there coaches to bigger tier I schools and don't recruite as well the tier I Pitt,WVU,MU,Nova,Cincy,ND


then you have the teir III programs such as PC,SH,SJU,RU and USF these scools hardley ever make consecutive NCAAS. Providence still think they are teir II but they are more mid major then Big East in BB.
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I can promise you that Cronin will not leave UC unless he is fired.
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Krocker Krapp Wrote:Travis Ford will be coaching in the SEC eventually just like the article said. Go worship at his altar on the A-10 board while Massachusetts still has him.

Yes, he will eventually be at Kentucky, so you are right sir.

That would be cool if UMass got them a crack at UConn at the next Big Dance. I can see a series renewal a la UK-Louisville (although that led to the series birth).
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Keno Davis from Drake?
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RE: Providence gig
Sounds like a good hire if it comes to pass

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KENO ACCEPTS PROVIDENCE; NEXT AT DRAKE?
Apr 15, 2008 | 7:53AM | report this It's a done deal. Drake coach Keno Davis is headed to Providence.

It appears as though a news conference is scheduled for 5 p.m. ET.

Quality hire by Providence AD Bob Driscoll and Bob Beaudine, who was hired by the school to assist in the search. PC will do fine with winning the press conference by hiring the National Coach of the Year - and he did an impressive job this past season in leading Drake to the NCAA tournament.

Now the speculation can begin as to who replaces Davis at Drake.

How about these three candidates:

- Tennessee assistant Steve Forbes - He's a native of Lone Tree, Iowa, and was a head coach at Barton Community College. Forbes spent two years at Texas A&M under Billy Gillispie and the past two under Bruce Pearl with the Vols.

- Washington State assistant Matt Woodley - Played at Drake and is from West Des Moines, Iowa. Has spent the last two years under Tony Bennett after two at Middle Tennessee.

- Indiana State assistant Greg Lansing - Spent seven seasons as an assistant at Iowa. Father is a Hall of Fame high school coach in the state. Was a high school coach in Des Moines.
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