These are truly good times for real Tiger fans. WE can sit back and speculate about (very good) future tiger players. The current team is stomping teams week in and week out. Good times indeed.
I remember looking forward to seeing Montrel Nash play until I went to see him in person. I told Easterwood on the Old Hoops board that Nash looked like a Stick Man. Tigers have come a long way.

dont see us being better...i think CDR, Rose, and Dozier, although his play of late would contradict that, will all leave. Add that to Dorsey's exit. Spells trouble to me. Not to say we wont be good. but better than this team? Not gonna happen.

Don't forget that Taggart is coming off of major knee surgery. It often takes a full year to come back. I get the feeling that Taggart is going to have a great summer at the Finch, in the gym and weight room and will be a force next year. If he managed to put 20 pounds on his frame he would be unstoppable.

We will finally get to see what Kemp can do next year as it should be his team to run. I think he is a great PG and given the time to get into the flow could be one of the 5 best in the country next year.
If we land Tyreke, we will finally have the great 3 point shooter we have been missing.
I agree with Stammers on Taggart. If Dozier returns and Niles gets in shape we will be fine in the frontcourt.

I think we will be closer to the 06/07 team. Top 10, but not quite as good as this team. However, that does not mean that we wont have better results! This years team might not win the title, next years team will be good enough to have a chance too. Anything can happen.

Where is Dozier going? Not the NBA. Just the fact that Shawne and Rodney have to fight for playing time should be a clue as to Robert's chances. I really don't see Robert getting drafted at all. I love him to death as a tiger, but I just don't see it, as far as the NBA. I hope I'm wrong, but I know he is not ready yet.

cvilletiger Wrote:Where is Dozier going? Not the NBA. Just the fact that Shawne and Rodney have to fight for playing time should be a clue as to Robert's chances. I really don't see Robert getting drafted at all. I love him to death as a tiger, but I just don't see it, as far as the NBA. I hope I'm wrong, but I know he is not ready yet.

You can bank on this, if, the Tigers win it all Dozier is gone. The NBA isn't like most professional sport organizations. The NBA drafts on potential. Believe it or not, Dozier is the Tiger with the most up side outside of Rose. You can't teach his length and athleticism.

Rudy Gay is the perfect example of potential being fulfilled. Stromile Swift is the example of just the opposite but yet he is a multi-millionaire. I am afraid the lure of big bucks is there and I can't blame them.

hartless Wrote:

cvilletiger Wrote:Where is Dozier going? Not the NBA. Just the fact that Shawne and Rodney have to fight for playing time should be a clue as to Robert's chances. I really don't see Robert getting drafted at all. I love him to death as a tiger, but I just don't see it, as far as the NBA. I hope I'm wrong, but I know he is not ready yet.

You can bank on this, if, the Tigers win it all Dozier is gone. The NBA isn't like most professional sport organizations. The NBA drafts on potential. Believe it or not, Dozier is the Tiger with the most up side outside of Rose. You can't teach his length and athleticism.

Rudy Gay is the perfect example of potential being fulfilled. Stromile Swift is the example of just the opposite but yet he is a multi-millionaire. I am afraid the lure of big bucks is there and I can't blame them.

Dozier won't be going anywhere even if we win the title. He won't be a guaranteed first round pick regardless, and no first round means no guaranteed money. Coming back will give him the chance to be the go to guy for this team, and drastically improve his stock.

Dude... We have a bunch of 1st round NBA talent on this team. We are ranked #1 for a reason other than being undefeated. The NBA understands the team(roles) concept. Dozier is a PTP'er. He shows up against quality teams. I'll just let it play itself out.

hartless Wrote:Dude... We have a bunch of 1st round NBA talent on this team. We are ranked #1 for a reason other than being undefeated. The NBA understands the team(roles) concept. Dozier is a PTP'er. He shows up against quality teams. I'll just let it play itself out.

Gay's sophmore year
15.2 Points Per Game
6.4 Rebounds Per Game
2.1 Assists Per Game
1.6 Blocks Per Game

Swift's stats

G FG% FT% 3P% BPG SPG RPG APG PPG
98-99 L.S.U 16 .409 .600 .125 2.2 0.9 4.3 0.3 7.6
99-00 L.S.U 34 .608 .617 .280 2.8 1.5 8.2 0.9 16.2
Dozier

10 PPG, 7.2 rpg, 1.4 apg, 1.3 bpg

His stats aren't exactly mindblowing. He has potential, but even people with "potential" are usually dominant players at the college level. Dozier's not a 1st rounder right now

Swift was never dominant in college. His up side is what got him in the first round. I wouldn't call Gay's 15pg dominant. Gay had a reputation of not playing to his full potential while in college.

2005 NC. Tar heels had 4 guys drafted in the first rd. down to 14th. Marvin Williams had 11.3 pg coming off the bench and drafted 2nd behind #1 Bogut.

Sean May !7.5 pg drafted at 13th
Rashad McCants 16.0 pg at 14th
Raymond Felton 12.9 pg at 5th
Jawad Williams 13.1 pg undrafted but he went overseas, from there to NBAD and Now on the bench with the Clippers

The best (potential) player the NBA thought of off a championship team was on the bench at NC. Nobody saw this coming. Williams avg 16.6 pg for the Hawks.

Sean May out possibly for the season due to knee surgery.

Raymond Felton 13.3 pg for the Bobcats.

Rashad McCants 15.0 pg for the Timber wolves.

Domination is good but who would you have chosen? Ralph Sampson or Micheal Jordan. One dominated the other didn't. Not in College anyway.

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72Tiger Wrote:If Niles gets in shape, we will have a weapon that we haven't had in a long time.

IMO, Niles will not be much help in or out of shape.

I have to agree. I have seen flashes of greatness from the guy including his lightning quick feet when he spins, and his great passing from the paint but everything he can or could be capable of on offense would be totally demolished by his defense. I have seen him play quite a bit and he's very very very slow defending. After Dorsey leaves, its all on Dozier and Taggert's shoulders and hopefully the incoming fresh can supply a little bit of D as well. I think Robinson is gonna be the wild card though. Alot of people are overlooking him, and he will be here for 4 years. Think about what we have seen from him and what he will be motivated to do next year with LOTS of PT up for grabs at his position. As far as Garcia, Ive seen film on him and he does look like quite the scoring threat, almost like Shawn Williams a few years ago. I don't think he's as good defensively though. If we do lose CDR, Rose, and Dorsey.. which I am expecting to finish out strong and go pro, I think we will be a good team but definetly not nearly as experienced. If we do end up landing Evans, he could offset the scoring losses of Rose and CDR. I believe Cal is recruiting him hardest now and he is gonna give the guy a complete green light to create and score here. At the point Kemp will be much better and more improved(although not a drose). And I believe Andre Allen will test the waters overseas but think he will return for one final campaign and give us some depth at the 1. Mack should be much improved as well over the summer and Antonio will still be the glue to this team. I think based on what players will probably go that our starting lineup will look something like this:
Willie Kemp G off the bench Andre Allen G
Mack/Evans G off the bench Mack/Evans G
Antonio Anderson G off the bench Jeff Robinson G
Robert Dozier F off the bench Angel Garcia F
Shawn Taggert C off the bench Pierre Niles C/F Matt Simpkins C/F