Talking about the A-10 that is. A few of our schools used to play there or the Eastern 8 and we play a fair amount of OOC games against each other. They had a little downturn after the four bid year from a few years ago but it looks like they've got some strength again and they've won a few games against our league this year (we're 9-6 with one more to play (VU at St. Joes)).

Tonight the conference had a sweep of the Virginia ACC schools (both were on CSTV, so I watched)

Richmond 52, VT 49
Xavier 108, Virginia 70

You don't have to tell me, matt. Dayton took out UL and then took it out on Pitt. Xavier knocked off Indiana. It's funny they took out the VA schools too though, makes me feel like

I'd say, beware of the teams that will be added to the Catholic side of the Big East after the split :).

Dayton (playing well, but they always play at the level of their competition under Brian Gregory) and Xavier have both been playing well this year.

Villanova
Georgetown
Notre Dame
Seton Hall
Providence
St. Johns
Marquette
DePaul
Dayton
Xavier
St. Josephs
St. Louis

...would be a great conference.

MichaelSavage Wrote:Villanova
Georgetown
Notre Dame
Seton Hall
Providence
St. Johns
Marquette
DePaul
Dayton
Xavier
St. Josephs
St. Louis

...would be a great conference.

I agree, I hate being burdened down by the BBall schools...

Cincy
Louisville
Pittsburgh
Memphis
West Virginia
Rutgers
UConn
South Florida
ECU/UCF/ND

and off we go, if only it were that simple...

UCbball21 Wrote:

MichaelSavage Wrote:Villanova
Georgetown
Notre Dame
Seton Hall
Providence
St. Johns
Marquette
DePaul
Dayton
Xavier
St. Josephs
St. Louis

...would be a great conference.

I agree, I hate being burdened down by the BBall schools...

Cincy
Louisville
Pittsburgh
Memphis
West Virginia
Rutgers
UConn
South Florida
ECU/UCF/ND

and off we go, if only it were that simple...

Do you plan on kicking Syracuse out of the league? I know we have been bad lately, but come on.

Forget ND, they'll never budge.

Xavier and Dayton are scary good this year. Rhode Island is very good as well, a Top 25 program, and UMass is back to being a quality program.

cuseroc Wrote:

UCbball21 Wrote:

MichaelSavage Wrote:Villanova
Georgetown
Notre Dame
Seton Hall
Providence
St. Johns
Marquette
DePaul
Dayton
Xavier
St. Josephs
St. Louis

...would be a great conference.

I agree, I hate being burdened down by the BBall schools...

Cincy
Louisville
Pittsburgh
Memphis
West Virginia
Rutgers
UConn
South Florida
ECU/UCF/ND

and off we go, if only it were that simple...

Do you plan on kicking Syracuse out of the league? I know we have been bad lately, but come on.

Maybe he has inside knowledge that Syracuse will be Big Ten #12.

OMG, what if he is on to something there??? -

Cheers,
Neil

Why would you guys want to split from top a top program like Georgetown and Madison Square Garden? St. John's is a coach away from top 25. Villanova and Marquette being usually pretty good is an understatement. DePaul=great market. Notre Dame adds more than you guys admit.

ECU, UCF, and any other acronymic school AIN'T GONNA HELP! Scheduling is not that big of a deal. Temple and UB are dying for games! Akron ain't too far, Miami U plays Cinci every year, Louisville should play Memphis every year. WVU plays Maryland. BC is getting thrown back in the mix.

The way I see it is the Big East fb conference has an advantage to schedule more marquee ooc games than anyone else, which they don't do for some reason. If you guys play better teams than people can't say you're soft.

We could play ACC football teams and still be accused of playing soft teams!

mattsarz Wrote:Talking about the A-10 that is. A few of our schools used to play there or the Eastern 8 and we play a fair amount of OOC games against each other. They had a little downturn after the four bid year from a few years ago but it looks like they've got some strength again and they've won a few games against our league this year (we're 9-6 with one more to play (VU at St. Joes)).

Tonight the conference had a sweep of the Virginia ACC schools (both were on CSTV, so I watched)

Richmond 52, VT 49
Xavier 108, Virginia 70

A-10 is real good this year but it is hard for many of these teams to be real good year after year, or the conference for that matter. Sean Miller of X will gone after this year if they win a game or 2 in the NCAA tourney.

SuperFlyBCat Wrote:

mattsarz Wrote:Talking about the A-10 that is. A few of our schools used to play there or the Eastern 8 and we play a fair amount of OOC games against each other. They had a little downturn after the four bid year from a few years ago but it looks like they've got some strength again and they've won a few games against our league this year (we're 9-6 with one more to play (VU at St. Joes)).

Tonight the conference had a sweep of the Virginia ACC schools (both were on CSTV, so I watched)

Richmond 52, VT 49
Xavier 108, Virginia 70

A-10 is real good this year but it is hard for many of these teams to be real good year after year, or the conference for that matter. Sean Miller of X will gone after this year if they win a game or 2 in the NCAA tourney.

So not true, Xavier's main focus is bball and the program has been good for years no matter who is coaching. The A10 is back to being one of the top conferences outside of the "big six". The MVC is still strong and the MWC is up there too. For a few years about ten to twelve years ago the A10 was as good as any conference. So called "mid-majors" may not get the best recruits, but their players hang around and they get the top transfers yearly. If a coach sticks at a "mid-major" he can make a top 25 team yearly, the proof is there.

Haha my bad, typo, obviously wanna keep Syracuse...although I can do without Devendorf
I look forward to our game on wed...should be a good one

MichaelSavage Wrote:Villanova
Georgetown
Notre Dame
Seton Hall
Providence
St. Johns
Marquette
DePaul
Dayton
Xavier
St. Josephs
St. Louis

...would be a great conference.

I agree that would be a very good BB conf.

MichaelSavage Wrote:Villanova
Georgetown
Notre Dame
Seton Hall
Providence
St. Johns
Marquette
DePaul
Dayton
Xavier
St. Josephs
St. Louis

...would be a great conference.

I would replace St. Louis with Charlotte.

Quote:Why would you guys want to split from top a top program like Georgetown and Madison Square Garden? St. John's is a coach away from top 25. Villanova and Marquette being usually pretty good is an understatement. DePaul=great market. Notre Dame adds more than you guys admit.

Why would we want to split? For the same reason your conference was able to raid the Big East. Divided factions inside of a conference will never survive. The football schools are stuck with not being able to make a move unless schools, who have nothing to do with Division I-A, give the ok. The benefits of having an All-Sports Conference we have complete control of far outweighs having a couple of strong non-Division I-A basketball programs and Notre Dame.

Quote:ECU, UCF, and any other acronymic school AIN'T GONNA HELP! Scheduling is not that big of a deal.

That's easy for you to say because the ACC has 12 schools. But when you have only 8 schools and you have to spend tons of money to get OOC games it's VERY big deal. ECU, Memphis and UCF would be a VERY big help, especially since Memphis could bring a very valuable bowl and powerful basketball program and solid football program, and ECU would bring a strong football program and a very strong fanbase that travels very well.

Quote:Temple and UB are dying for games! Akron ain't too far, Miami U plays Cinci every year, Louisville should play Memphis every year. WVU plays Maryland. BC is getting thrown back in the mix.

Yet, you and others would be the FIRST ones criticizing the Big East for playing a "weak" schedule. As soon as it comes time for BCS rankings and championship games you and others would be the first ones saying that a conference that plays Temple, Buffalo, Bowling Green, Akron, and Miami-OH have no business in a championship game. I'm not ripping you in particular, but you have to admit that if it came down to an ACC school and a Big East school for a chance to the BCS title game you would be saying that if the Big East had those teams on it's schedule. Heck, we got criticized for playing schools like CMU, WMU and MTSU and they were bowl teams!

Quote:The way I see it is the Big East fb conference has an advantage to schedule more marquee ooc games than anyone else, which they don't do for some reason. If you guys play better teams than people can't say you're soft.

You seriously don't think it's Big East schools that won't play those marquee OOC opponents do you? We're doing everything we can to play those schools, it's those others schools who seem to be afraid to pick up the phone. Cincinnati has a STACKED schedule the next 10 years, but I guarantee that if we had to try to schedule those opponents AFTER this year many of them wouldn't pick up the phone.

I know the Big 10 is impossible to get games with. Especially the big dogs. Penn State doesn't want to play anyone good in the east. Too bad they don't have those neutral site games any more like the Black Coaches Classic. I guess I never thought about the other schools avoiding you guys. Basketball is so much better as far as scheduling.

esayem Wrote:

SuperFlyBCat Wrote:

mattsarz Wrote:Talking about the A-10 that is. A few of our schools used to play there or the Eastern 8 and we play a fair amount of OOC games against each other. They had a little downturn after the four bid year from a few years ago but it looks like they've got some strength again and they've won a few games against our league this year (we're 9-6 with one more to play (VU at St. Joes)).

Tonight the conference had a sweep of the Virginia ACC schools (both were on CSTV, so I watched)

Richmond 52, VT 49
Xavier 108, Virginia 70

A-10 is real good this year but it is hard for many of these teams to be real good year after year, or the conference for that matter. Sean Miller of X will gone after this year if they win a game or 2 in the NCAA tourney.

So not true, Xavier's main focus is bball and the program has been good for years no matter who is coaching. The A10 is back to being one of the top conferences outside of the "big six". The MVC is still strong and the MWC is up there too. For a few years about ten to twelve years ago the A10 was as good as any conference. So called "mid-majors" may not get the best recruits, but their players hang around and they get the top transfers yearly. If a coach sticks at a "mid-major" he can make a top 25 team yearly, the proof is there.

I am well aware of Staak, Gillen, Prosser, Matta, and Miller, Xavier's last 5 coaches. Never said X would not be good if Miller leaves, and if the right team comes a calling he is gone. X's coaches last about 4 or so years before they move on. Also well aware of UMass with Camby and RI with Mobley and Odom, Dayton with Stanley ect. Again my point is that for A -10 to have 4 teams make the NCAA that is huge for them and it is hard to maintain that year after year.
4 teams from a power conference making the NCAA is considered an off year. If X wants to keep Miller they will have to increase his pay to $750,000 -$1,000,000. That being said X needs to win NCAA tourney games.