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(05-04-2009 07:01 PM)Camel76 Wrote:  The school and their coach are in a fantasy land calling it division 1 football.

The NCAA calls it Division I football.

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Camel76: You keep saying you're not angry yet all you do is attack and ***** and complain. If it bothers you that much maybe you should get yourself off the message board and into the athletic department or onto the board of directors. Campbell plays Division I sports like it or not it is happening. Whether you think it is Division I caliber athletics is just your opinion. The facts, as they tend to do in your arguments, support us. Don't you just hate it when logic always has you beat?

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CU football is classified as a D-1 program but until CU gets serious about football and offers the allowable number of scholarships at its current level the program is nothing more than a club team.

Camel76: Well I'd rather live in a reality where good could potential happen than a reality like yours waiting for something to go wrong. You say you have put in your time, great. Happy for you. That just makes you a person that has been pissed off as a "fan" for longer than the rest of us. Until you say something that matters or do something about it all you'll ever be is a person that just *******, moans and complains. If you are member of the Fighting Camel Club, why don't you or didn't you try to do something with all the wrong decision with the football program. Are your donations not enough to get heard? Good boosters, like you claim to be, normally are listened to at schools that are desperate for money. I guess your level of self importance is truly only in your head.

(05-06-2009 07:52 AM)andone Wrote:  CU football is classified as a D-1 program but until CU gets serious about football and offers the allowable number of scholarships at its current level the program is nothing more than a club team.

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A civil war at Campbell?

Coach Steele running out on the field with a Highway Patrolman in tow behind him is a little over the top don't you think?
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Billy Pope Fan , what do you mean is this true? Didn't you go to the games? When I first saw this I thought this man thinks he really is a big time football coach. Funny actually. Just another example of playing the role instead of working the role. It's all about him not his players. He leads them in the walk across campus. He leads them in the run out on the field. Problem is he's not a leader because a true leader instills that ability in his team and lets the team do that.

No I haven't been to a game yet; hope to be there next season for my first one. Long, long drive....

Agree that the highway patrol escort is a joke. I would have to think that people are laughing out loud.

Camel76: That is something we can agree upon. I also see no reason for the highway patrol man.

(05-07-2009 10:57 PM)Camel76 Wrote:  camels7778; you don't know me, you don't know anything about me, and you're not going to so you're the one who is doing the guessing. Who says's I'm pissed off? Did I say I'm important? My level of giving? Did I claim something about that? The fact is you don't know.Stating or suggesting personal facts you don't know is foolish don't you think? Maybe you don't think is the problem. I'm just telling you the new football program is not headed in the right direction and the current leadership it's not going to right itself even is if it is new program. Good potential? Everybody's got potential, it's just a question of whether it's realized or not and truthfully CU isn't near their potential. Who says that I haven't made my feelings known to the administration. What do you think they're going to do fire the coach after his first season of competition? But I must also remind you that most of these starters or who will be starting are entering their 3rd year of college football, they're not teenagers, or strangers to the game.After this season if there isn't measured progress (like in the win column) CU needs to start taking a look around for the future, if winning college football games and building a support base for college football is in fact a goal at CU. Base on what I've observed over the past 2 years, its not going to happen, and the sooner they realize that the better. That's not bitching and griping, thats just telling it like it is which you seem to have a problem with.Campbell desperate for money? Are you kidding? You have any idea what CU is worth? My god, maybe you're the one who needs to start checking facts and figures.Now I'm not going to argue with you anymore about it because frankly I've got better things to do with my time that argue with someone from the coach's sunshine club. Show me a program or person who can't take criticism constructive or not (because thats in the eyes of the beholder) but show me one and I'll show you a LOSER.

Well, I'm new to this board, and have been reading all the negative stuff you guys have been posting about Campbell football. Not real positve stuff, considering my son signed in Feb to continue his career at Campbell. Why did he choose Campbell? Honest coaches, nice facilities, and a great academic school. What more could you ask for? He had other offers at Di-aa schools and some DII schools, but wanted the chance to be involved with something 'new' and build from the ground up. What do you guys expect for a 2nd year program? As a 'mature' individual, here's what I've observed from the coaches and program. This has been their best recruiting year ever. Each year of recruiting is targeted to get better. We just went through the entire recuriting process with many schools, and just because a league that provides 'athletic' scholarships does not mean they are better. Austin Peay only has 23 scholarships available. They are terrible. They have to parse the cash in many different ways. UTC? What a mess they have. A DII school beating some Pioneer league schools? So what? Campbell is in it's infancy right now, and must learn how to crawl before it can walk. I've been very impressed with all the Campbell coaches. Not sure why you have such a negative attitude towards them and the environment. It just will take time. Freshman and Sophomores can just not compete with Juniors and Seniors at established schools. Campbell's time will come.

(05-06-2009 07:52 AM)andone Wrote:  CU football is classified as a D-1 program but until CU gets serious about football and offers the allowable number of scholarships at its current level the program is nothing more than a club team.

That's a pretty idiotic statement. There's not a lot, if any, DI-aa schools that provide the 'allowable' number of scholarships. The NCAA allows a maximum, but do you really believe the majority of DI-aa schools provide full rides for 60+ football players? Get real. I've just been through the recruiting process with my son.

(05-10-2009 09:23 AM)Camel76 Wrote:  Billy Pope Fan , what do you mean is this true? Didn't you go to the games? When I first saw this I thought this man thinks he really is a big time football coach. Funny actually. Just another example of playing the role instead of working the role. It's all about him not his players. He leads them in the walk across campus. He leads them in the run out on the field. Problem is he's not a leader because a true leader instills that ability in his team and lets the team do that.

Gosh, Mr. Negative again. How close have you been to Coach Steele? Have you actuallly talked to him one-on-one? I have. He drove 500 miles to my son's house and talked with us one-on-one for 2 hours. What's wrong with him leading the team on walks and on the field? That's what a coach does? He hasn't had much to work with so far. He does have some fine athletes, as I saw from the spring game. They are just young. You sound like some guy who tried football and couldn't make it, and just spill sour grapes about the program.

Welcome abaord newCUman, glad to have you and your son in the Campbell family.

Fans at any school often disagree with the coach, the AD, or whomever, yet they remain fans. No different here.

Lots of good things going on a CU, return to the Big South, improved facilities, and the return of football.

(05-15-2009 08:03 PM)Billy Pope Fan Wrote:  Welcome abaord newCUman, glad to have you and your son in the Campbell family.

Fans at any school often disagree with the coach, the AD, or whomever, yet they remain fans. No different here.

Lots of good things going on a CU, return to the Big South, improved facilities, and the return of football.

Thanks! I do understand the disagreements. It's just going to take a positive mindset from all involved to make football work. FYI, as a newbie to the Pioneer League, I wondered "how good is the league"? My son's assistant High School football coach played at Austin Peay when they were non-scholarship in the league. He told us they played very competitive football, which was part of the decision why my son is coming there. His coach eventually played in the Arena Football league, and holds a record there today! (Head Coach also played in NFL for Falcons for 3 years, and recommended it also). So, he was a pretty decent player himself, yet Austin Peay never did very well in the league. I saw last year that two teams from the PFL received votes for top 25 in DI-aa. I also saw that there are at least 3 players that received pre-season All American status for the upcoming 2009 season. That's not too shabby for a so-called 'non scholarship' league I suppose? I have always been an SEC fan, and grew up in the heart of that conference, so I don't know much about any other leagues, DI, DII or DIII! However, my research indicates the league is competitive with most other DI-aa leagues? I believe Campbell will get there, but will just take time. I was very impressed with the committment that Campbell has shown to the football program in my short time through the recruiting process. Time will tell...You know, there's nothing wrong about wanting to be a 'real' student/athlete, and not just 'talk the talk'. That's what I like about Campbell. They can be competitive. Even Vanderbilt in the SEC is turning the corner! Some good athletes would rather get a good education and play sports at the same time! They exist, and the coaches have just got to find them.. Few, if any, DI-aa athletes play football in college to progress to the next level (NFL).

Welcome to the board "newcampbellman". I agree with you. It will take time to build the program. I am one of the few on the board that thinks the program is going in the right direction. I think it is all a process. I just wish the university would do a little better of supporting its football program to put them on even footing with some of the other places in the PFL. I think the move to the Big South will eventually lead to scholarships. Don't get discourage by others and please see the good that can come from your son attending Campbell to play football next season. Hopefully every season will be a constant improvement.