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OrangeCamel Wrote:Pic from 1-5-08.

[Image: fbstadiumjan08.jpg]

Updated pic from 6-26-08. I drove by again on 6-27-08 and one of the five sets of bleachers had been installed on the visitor's side (home in 08) to the left.

[Image: camfbstadium0608.jpg]
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Compare the two goal posts. Perhaps it's an optical illusion, but the north post nearest 421 looks taller. Had they just corrected it? (I just took the picture....didn't really pay attention to what they were doing on the field.)
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I rode by on Saturday and they are putting up the permanent seating.
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(06-29-2008 06:44 PM)OrangeCamel Wrote:  
OrangeCamel Wrote:Pic from 1-5-08.

[Image: fbstadiumjan08.jpg]

Updated pic from 6-26-08. I drove by again on 6-27-08 and one of the five sets of bleachers had been installed on the visitor's side (home in 08) to the left.

[Image: camfbstadium0608.jpg]

Updated pic from 4-18-09.

[Image: DSCN0491.jpg]
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04-18-2009 07:35 PM
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I think what they have done looked nice. The marquee is a nice touch. I just wish we would of done more in terms of permanent seating. Hopefully that will come sooner than later.
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Are those two females walking down the middle of 421? lol
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Well that could be true but I also heard they already have all the money donated by Barker-Lane for naming rights last season and just haven't spent it yet. That is the money I was referring to and why I was disappoint that the school didn't do anything to better the facility in the off-season.
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(04-21-2009 02:37 PM)camels7778 Wrote:  Well that could be true but I also heard they already have all the money donated by Barker-Lane for naming rights last season and just haven't spent it yet. That is the money I was referring to and why I was disappoint that the school didn't do anything to better the facility in the off-season.

if true I find it very disapointing; why wait? I would assume the work could be done quickly and at an affordable rate in this economy.
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My point exactly. The product will not get better until you put the money back into it meant for stadium improvements.
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Football programs and athletics directly give little money back to schools. It is the buzz that is associated with a program for former alumni that increases the coffers. I know as non-scholarship they may have a chance to give more back than other but it will still not be profitable that is something that should have been realized in a feasibility study before football was added.

I see what you are saying but I just think that if money is being donated to the football program and you are not using it, you may risk losing it. I know if I was the one to donated money to the school and they didn't spend it or at least move some dirt with it I would be pretty upset and demand my money back and spend it elsewhere.
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Check your facts again Camel76. Football is rarely profitable at the college level. Texas and Ohio State are the only two of the few programs that are self sustaining enough to not have to rely on the big money contributions from the university and boosters. Everywhere else including at the non-scholarship entry level it is sucking money like crazy. Again something that should have been researched by those that are supposed to be more in the know than me. Basketball can be profitable at some Division I school (Campbell is not one of them) because of the lack of equipment, the ease of which to travel and the limited about amount of money needed to be spent to make it more self reliant (just a ball, hoop and a gym( which most places already have even if it is only something the caliber of Carter Gym).
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That's untrue. Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina and Alabama I know for a fact use football money to fund several Title IX sports. Pick up the phone and call Joan Cronin in Knoxville and she'll tell you that fall Saturdays are imperative to the success of women's programs at Tennessee. As successful as the Georgia Gymdogs are, they don't exist without Bulldog football, the revenue generated from that funds all of the non-revenue sports.
At the mid major/FCS level football is tougher to fund simply due to lesser fans, but it can be done. Give football time, support it, and get the team winning, the benefit will be overnight.
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Again I said two of the few and every program you listed is a high major and FBS school not a mid-major to lower major. You could even throw in USC and Notre Dame to the mix if want as well. If we are to talk specifically Campbell football will not be funding any of the others programs directly and neither did ETSU's otherwise they would still have one and wouldn't have to be begging the student to increase fees to bring it back. Expect for the rare case football is not and will not be profitable directly. Having a sport like football will make a school more viable. In general athletics are not directly profitable for a university that is why most athletic programs operate in the red and need money from boosters and the universities to stay viable.

Here is a link to a few articles.

http://title-ix.blogspot.com/2008/05/nca...tment.html

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=7892
04-30-2009 08:28 AM
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I believe that is the point in you being non-scholarship. doesn't it take a few years for football to become profitable. i know the start up costs are huge and building stadium, buying equipment, paying coaches. but if campbell adds 100 new students at (i dunno what cu tuition is so lets say its) 30,000 then that is 3,000,000 extra a year. i don't know if you are getting 100 players or not or if they are all paying full tuition after academic scholarships. so lets just take half of that. 1.5 million a year in revenue coming to the school. i couldn't even guess at a football budget in a year. i'm sure the initial costs of equipment and stuff but them in debt. i don't know what it takes to travel and feed and staff a football program but its probably not 1.5 million a year. maybe they make 500,000 a year profit off football(again these are low numbers). well after 5 or 6 years of making that profit, it should pay for its initial startup costs. maybe 4 or 5 more years it pays to finish stadium on its own. then maybe after that it starts making money for the rest of the athletic department. thats the allure of non scholarship is what i thought. now if you go scholarship and don't make a ton of money at the gate and merchandise, i don't see how you make money at the smaller level: except guarantee games!! didn't oklahoma pay somebody close to a million dollars to come play, might have been chattanooga??. that pays their budget for the year and oklahoma still makes a profit b/c a saturday afternoon in the sec or big 12 makes more money than that. therefore the program is still able to be sustained without costing the school money.

the same is true with basketball. the guarante games aren't as high as football but i think i heard 80 grand was common. play 3 or 4 of those in a year and that pays your own. back before our new president at mercer who puts a ton of funding in athletics, i believe i heard men's basketball guarantee games paid 35-40% of athletic budget. they used to play like 6 a year. it got cut to 3 eventually. but those guarantee games paid for volleyball, tennis, soccer, etc. i belive women's basketball is only other sport that gets paid to play guarantee games but the number is much lower but they can almost sustain themselves off their guarantee games. often times athletics sustains itself on campus, and when they have success donations from alumni go up which helps the overall health of school. at the biggest levels the athletic departments turn a huge profit after tv deals, apparel and logo contracts. i heard this about univ of florida that they are the 2nd biggest donor to academics at uf. its no wonder everybody is on same page down there. the academics down there love the athletic department. also we heard how much money uconn basketball makes when that jim calhoun/reporter spat popped up.

so give it some time, football will be profitable if you don't go to scholarships in the next few years. but you might not win for a while without scholarships. the worst school in the world will get a better player with just a little scholarship money over a great school offering no academic money.
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There is no point arguing with someone that can't even read the articles I took the time to show you. Football and basketball can be profitable but neither is profitable at Campbell, which was the point of this entire argument. At schools like Campbell these sports are not profitable. Let me state this again: FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL ARE NOT PROFITABLE AT CAMPBELL. They may be profitable at a higher level school but they are not and won't be at Campbell. Athletics as a whole are not profitable anywhere but at the upper level directly on money taken in and spent. Other factors need to play a part and be factored in to make these sports profitable or worthwhile for schools. At upper level school they can help fund athletic programs, you are correct, but at Campbell the lower level sports can't survive on what football or basketball currently brings in. It is just not possible.
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For comparison, Drake recently reported annual FB expenses of $814k and revenue of $219k. There are usually six home games, but for one home date a year, you can buy ticktes for a buck each (kids are always free). The university covered the $605k shortfall. Worth it, considering the tuition revenue, I think.
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