goodknightfl Wrote:

TIGER-PAUL Wrote:good news and credit to cincy, but in reality they are all 1 year deals now a days.

LOL that is what I was thinking he has a 52week contract that says 5 years..

Isn't that the same thing you said earlier this year? It's amusing that you're so desperate to convince everyone that Kelly is leaving. Considering O'leary hasn't bailed on your yet it isn't a given that Kelyl is going anywhere, especially considering he is getting paid millions to dollars to coach at a BCS program.

SuperFlyBCat Wrote:

BJUnklFkr Wrote:It's usually standard op for me to root against ND, but Butterpants better get his act together starting next season. I have actually heard BK say in an interview something like "If Notre Dame calls, I'll listen."

Other than Michigan or ND, I understand the only other place he'd ever be interested in is BCU (just because it's home for him).

I agree, ND, UM, BC would interest BK, but a lateral move to a Big 12, SEC, or Big 11, I don't see it. Some conferences are just crazy like the SEC where a coach like Cutcliffe (Ole Miss) or Nutt (Ark.) gets fired (steps down). What would appeal to me about coaching in the Big East at Cincy is that there are other fan distractions to get pissed off about, Bengals, Reds. BK won't get drunk email threats after a loss in Cincy. As long as UC keeps winning at a decent clip the fans will pack Nippert and everybody will be very happy.

What makes people think that Boston College would interest him, other then the fact he is from the area?

subflea Wrote:

KnightLight Wrote:

TIGER-PAUL Wrote:good news and credit to cincy, but in reality they are all 1 year deals now a days.

Yeah...sadly that's a given...but maybe this will help future HS student-athletes to spend more time looking at what the school can offer as a WHOLE (Academic and Athletic wise) vs just signing with a team because they like the Head Coach and/or Asst...as even the Assistant coaches will likely either move on or get fired when a new HC comes into a program.

I think it will be very, very, very rare to see future Coaches stay at mainly one program like Paterno or Bowden have for decades and decades.

There are a few jobs out there that will keep coaches for a longtime. Tressell will be at Ohio State until he retires, Carroll at USC has already failed at the next level and will probably stay where he is for a while, fat Charlie if he can actually get things fixed in Notre Dame will stay till he has a heart attack on the sidelines (speaking of that, who wouldn't want to see a Weiss/Mangino sumo match?).

Don't forget Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech.

CatsClaw Wrote:What makes people think that Boston College would interest him, other then the fact he is from the area?

Claw, he tried to get his name mentioned last season after the bowl game when the BC game came open.

Honestly, I don't know how long he will stay around, but as long as he keeps improving the program I'll be happy. The longer he is in Clifton I figure the better chance he will stay around, but if he doesn't there are a lot of coaches that UC can call upon to keep the train rolling.

mlb Wrote:

CatsClaw Wrote:What makes people think that Boston College would interest him, other then the fact he is from the area?

Claw, he tried to get his name mentioned last season after the bowl game when the BC game came open.

Honestly, I don't know how long he will stay around, but as long as he keeps improving the program I'll be happy. The longer he is in Clifton I figure the better chance he will stay around, but if he doesn't there are a lot of coaches that UC can call upon to keep the train rolling.

This guy is worth millions to the Cincy program. And I am not just talking about on the gridiron, although he is doing very well there too. But just looking at the way that he has motivated the Bearcat fans into coming to the games. The guy has real charisma, and he has been able to do something that no other coach has been able to do at Cincy in getting alot of folks really excited about Bearcat football. If you have to pay the guy 2 or 3 million, he is worth it just in increased ticket sales, and this is only the beginning. He may get fan interest to the point that you may have to play your games at the Bengals stadium, who knows? That would be worth it.

cuseroc Wrote:.... He may get fan interest to the point that you may have to play your games at the Bengals stadium, who knows? That would be worth it.

Hope UC doesn't do that for a majority of their games.

Stay ON CAMPUS and build up your ON-CAMPUS facilities...because if UC decided to forgo their on-campus stadium (zero improvements...maybe even torn-down) by moving to the Bengals stadium full-time...what if Coach Kelly moves on...and UC is just another 5-7, 6-6 team...and UC is back to 20,000 fans but now in a 65,000 seat stadium?

DON'T leave campus...the fans are right on top of the action at your stadium...just keep improving what you have.

KnightLight Wrote:

cuseroc Wrote:.... He may get fan interest to the point that you may have to play your games at the Bengals stadium, who knows? That would be worth it.

Hope UC doesn't do that for a majority of their games.

Stay ON CAMPUS and build up your ON-CAMPUS facilities...because if UC decided to forgo their on-campus stadium (zero improvements...maybe even torn-down) by moving to the Bengals stadium full-time...what if Coach Kelly moves on...and UC is just another 5-7, 6-6 team...and UC is back to 20,000 fans but now in a 65,000 seat stadium?

DON'T leave campus...the fans are right on top of the action at your stadium...just keep improving what you have.

I agree Knight Light. Really, right now, there are only probably two home games a year that would justify going to the river (last season: WVU and UL).

Best long term solution is to wait until the season tix push 30K (that would probably take 3 more years at this rate), then expand Nippert. If they can expand Nippert to 40-50K based on demand, without making it too tight in the surroundings, then the infastructure is there for a top 20 or so program.

BJUnklFkr Wrote:

KnightLight Wrote:

cuseroc Wrote:.... He may get fan interest to the point that you may have to play your games at the Bengals stadium, who knows? That would be worth it.

Hope UC doesn't do that for a majority of their games.

Stay ON CAMPUS and build up your ON-CAMPUS facilities...because if UC decided to forgo their on-campus stadium (zero improvements...maybe even torn-down) by moving to the Bengals stadium full-time...what if Coach Kelly moves on...and UC is just another 5-7, 6-6 team...and UC is back to 20,000 fans but now in a 65,000 seat stadium?

DON'T leave campus...the fans are right on top of the action at your stadium...just keep improving what you have.

I agree Knight Light. Really, right now, there are only probably two home games a year that would justify going to the river (last season: WVU and UL).

Best long term solution is to wait until the season tix push 30K (that would probably take 3 more years at this rate), then expand Nippert. If they can expand Nippert to 40-50K based on demand, without making it too tight in the surroundings, then the infastructure is there for a top 20 or so program.

When I wrote my post, I was thinking longterm, maybe 7-10 years. But I can realistically see Cincy outgrowing their present stadium within that time frame, if you are able to keep Kelly for that long. Once he is able to build up the fan base over this period of time and if he leaves, its very liekly that the fan base would be so large that if you get the right replacement for Kelly, you would not miss a beat and your attendance does not suffer. At this point, your program would be greater than any coach. Its possible, and its not a long shot either. This coach is gold for Cincy. I wish we had him at Cuse.

mlb Wrote:

CatsClaw Wrote:What makes people think that Boston College would interest him, other then the fact he is from the area?

Claw, he tried to get his name mentioned last season after the bowl game when the BC game came open.

Honestly, I don't know how long he will stay around, but as long as he keeps improving the program I'll be happy. The longer he is in Clifton I figure the better chance he will stay around, but if he doesn't there are a lot of coaches that UC can call upon to keep the train rolling.

I wasn't being nasty or anything, I legitimately wondered because I have heard people say that before, but I didn't know if he had any other connections to BC. I don't know, at the time he was still at a non-BCS job so it just might have been a case of him trying to get his name hooked to a BCS job because there weren't a lot of offers available until MSU, UC and Iowa State came along.

KnightLight Wrote:

cuseroc Wrote:.... He may get fan interest to the point that you may have to play your games at the Bengals stadium, who knows? That would be worth it.

Hope UC doesn't do that for a majority of their games.

Stay ON CAMPUS and build up your ON-CAMPUS facilities...because if UC decided to forgo their on-campus stadium (zero improvements...maybe even torn-down) by moving to the Bengals stadium full-time...what if Coach Kelly moves on...and UC is just another 5-7, 6-6 team...and UC is back to 20,000 fans but now in a 65,000 seat stadium?

DON'T leave campus...the fans are right on top of the action at your stadium...just keep improving what you have.

I agree. And coach Kelly agrees to because he is pushing for the university to expand Nippert, which I think is smart. But he is also using cuse's idea of pushing some of the better drawing games like Ohio State, Oklahoma, Miami-OH to PBS.

CatsClaw Wrote:I wasn't being nasty or anything, I legitimately wondered because I have heard people say that before, but I didn't know if he had any other connections to BC. I don't know, at the time he was still at a non-BCS job so it just might have been a case of him trying to get his name hooked to a BCS job because there weren't a lot of offers available until MSU, UC and Iowa State came along.

Let me restate my quote, as it apparently didn't quite come through clearly.

After he had taken the UC job, the BC job opened up (early January if I remember correctly). Kelly attempted to at least get an interview with BC, but they didn't want to talk to him. There is obviously interest from his side at minimum to go up there.

mlb Wrote:

CatsClaw Wrote:I wasn't being nasty or anything, I legitimately wondered because I have heard people say that before, but I didn't know if he had any other connections to BC. I don't know, at the time he was still at a non-BCS job so it just might have been a case of him trying to get his name hooked to a BCS job because there weren't a lot of offers available until MSU, UC and Iowa State came along.

Let me restate my quote, as it apparently didn't quite come through clearly.

After he had taken the UC job, the BC job opened up (early January if I remember correctly). Kelly attempted to at least get an interview with BC, but they didn't want to talk to him. There is obviously interest from his side at minimum to go up there.

Ah, ok, I didn't know that. Hopefully UC's strong commitment has cooled his interest in the job.

The BC job ain't going to be open for a while, so I wouldn't get my bowels in an uproar.

Cat's Claw, time for a beer :drinky2:

BJUnklFkr Wrote:Cat's Claw, time for a beer :drinky2:

Don't mind if I do! :drinky2: