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Balance of Power in BE is changing
It seems that UofL and WVU will be taking some steps back soon. I really believe that White,Slaton, and Renoyed all go to the draft. I think Rutgers has 1 more year of Rice before they bow out for the conference race.

Biggest winners
Uconn- still ayoung team, the 2008 season was going to be the breakout season. I think they will be even better
Cincy- With Brain Kelly staying and that QB from ND I think Cincy will gain from WVU situation
Pitt- May be the biggest winner here, with RR gone and Penn State being mediocre, Pitt looks primed to return to form


Syracuse is still 2 years back and USF I can't make a case for also
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RE: Balance of Power in BE is changing
I can't speak for UL, but I think its a little too early to tell about WVU. A lot will depend on who the new coach is. If the new head men is a long time assistant who has never been a head man before then I think there is a good chance the Mountaineers take a step or two back while he gets his feet wet

If the new coach is an experienced winner who can hit the ground running so to speak, WVU may be ok. There are a lot of good young players on WVUs roster

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Jackson1011 Wrote:I can't speak for UL, but I think its a little too early to tell about WVU. A lot will depend on who the new coach is. If the new head men is a long time assistant who has never been a head man before then I think there is a good chance the Mountaineers take a step or two back while he gets his feet wet

If the new coach is an experienced winner who can hit the ground running so to speak, WVU may be ok. There are a lot of good young players on WVUs roster

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I really believe there are some excited people in Pittsburgh, Cincy and Storrs today. I think with a new coach even an experienced coach (Terry Bowden)WVU is bound for a few growing pain or worst. This is why I think the league top is changing again, darn I only wish SU was raising this is the time IMO.
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RE: Balance of Power in BE is changing
Time will tell.....The easiest transition I can think would be if Jim Grobe of Wake Forest takes the job. With Grobe, the WVU offense would be pretty much the same. He is a WV native, but just signed the new contract so we will have to wait and see.

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It's impossible to tell what will happen with WVU. They could be better next year, you just don't know.
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Jackson1011 Wrote:Time will tell.....The easiest transition I can think would be if Jim Grobe of Wake Forest takes the job. With Grobe, the WVU offense would be pretty much the same. He is a WV native, but just signed the new contract so we will have to wait and see.

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I really hope WVU gets a great coach, people in Syracuse now what happens when an AD makes a poor hire. My opinion on the matter still stands I think Pitt will be the biggest winner as Wanny seems to have that young team believing and they seem to be loaded with talent ready to make noise.
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PusherT Wrote:I really believe there are some excited people in Pittsburgh, Cincy and Storrs today.

Only reason I'm glad about RR being gone is the fact that the Mich job was filled and, hence, the Kelly talk can cease. I do wish UM had looked elsewhere but the BE though.

However, the WVU program will be just fine. There are a lot of spread offense guys out there that should make this a relatively smooth transition. WVU will still have the players. Despite the loss of some blue chippers, the right hire should convince a lot of the recruits to stay put.

I think some of these editorials are extremely overblown.
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Jackson1011 Wrote:Time will tell.....The easiest transition I can think would be if Jim Grobe of Wake Forest takes the job. With Grobe, the WVU offense would be pretty much the same. He is a WV native, but just signed the new contract so we will have to wait and see.

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Wow, I dod'nt know that Grobe was from WV. There are alot of coaches, big name guys from WV. What gives? How are there so many great coaches coming from such a small state?

Also whats the deal with everyone mentioning Terry Bowden? Didnt he fail at Clemson? I dont get all of the talk about that guy. Also, he was one of the guys that really trashed the BE.
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Jackson1011 Wrote:Time will tell.....The easiest transition I can think would be if Jim Grobe of Wake Forest takes the job. With Grobe, the WVU offense would be pretty much the same. He is a WV native, but just signed the new contract so we will have to wait and see.

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Wow, I dod'nt know that Grobe was from WV. There are alot of coaches, big name guys from WV. What gives? How are there so many great coaches coming from such a small state?

Also whats the deal with everyone mentioning Terry Bowden? Didnt he fail at Auburn? I dont get all of the talk about that guy. Also, he was one of the guys that really trashed the BE.

I think Terry Bowden was born in West Virginia, when his dad was the coach. I know he still has alot of friends in the state. Rich Rod was being one of them.
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Jackson1011 Wrote:Time will tell.....The easiest transition I can think would be if Jim Grobe of Wake Forest takes the job. With Grobe, the WVU offense would be pretty much the same. He is a WV native, but just signed the new contract so we will have to wait and see.

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Wow, I dod'nt know that Grobe was from WV. There are alot of coaches, big name guys from WV. What gives? How are there so many great coaches coming from such a small state?

Also whats the deal with everyone mentioning Terry Bowden? Didnt he fail at Clemson? I dont get all of the talk about that guy. Also, he was one of the guys that really trashed the BE.


-- Grobe is from Huntington, WV. Just for the recrod, current Alabama coach Nick Saban is from tiny Fairmont, WV. I'm sure he got a call from WVU too last night, but that would be a huge longshot. As to why there are so many coaches from WV, football really is a religion of sorts here. Its just apart of the culture

-- For many fans, Terry Bowden is the Huggins of football. He is the alum who always wanted to come back but never got the chance. Some people were suprised when it was Rich, not Terry, who ened up being Nehlen's replacmemtn. As for on the field, he was 47-17-1 during his yrs at Auburn and the feeling his with his connection he could put together a great staff. Tommy Bowden, who also played at WVU, is the coach of Clemson you are thinking of

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Jackson, WestVa wouldn't miss a beat with Grobe. Bowden has been out of coaching for a looooong time.
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Brick City Pirate Wrote:Jackson, WestVa wouldn't miss a beat with Grobe. Bowden has been out of coaching for a looooong time.

-- Grobe would definatly be on the short list of A canidates. I just don't know how tied he is at Wake. I'm pretty confident it is a lot easier to win football games at WVU then it is at Wake Forest

-- The most important thing IMO is to get a coach with some experience. This is going to be a tricky situation. The team returning (regardless of what Slaton and White do) will have good talent and will be expected to win next yr. There will be little time to "get your feet wet". However, the new coach is probably going to have to reach out to the big money people. I'm sure they feel burned by Rod and the situation last yr. Therefore people skills will also come into play

Terry Bowden is a great fit because many think he can do both of those things well. Also, the Bowden name still carries a lot of weight in WV

-- I would be more concerned if someone like Jimbo Fisher gets the job. The isn't the situation in terms of expectations and off the field issues for a first yr coach

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PusherT Wrote:It seems that UofL and WVU will be taking some steps back soon. I really believe that White,Slaton, and Renoyed all go to the draft. I think Rutgers has 1 more year of Rice before they bow out for the conference race.

Biggest winners
Uconn- still ayoung team, the 2008 season was going to be the breakout season. I think they will be even better
Cincy- With Brain Kelly staying and that QB from ND I think Cincy will gain from WVU situation
Pitt- May be the biggest winner here, with RR gone and Penn State being mediocre, Pitt looks primed to return to form


Syracuse is still 2 years back and USF I can't make a case for also

Really? Wow! Personally, I think a case can be made that USF could be a preseason favorite at the start of next season. Other than UConn, who returns 20/22 starters and who finished a game ahead of us this year, USF is pretty poised to return with fewer question marks than most of our conference brethren...

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Jackson, I think if West Virginia's skill people on offense come back, you will be fine scoring wise. Doesn't West Virginia lose a ton of defensive starters? I think West Virginia loses 3-4 games next year no matter who's the coach. Grobe might be on the market. He has listened to Arkansas & Nebraska. He would be a perfect fit with the talent coming back to West Virginia.
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PusherT Wrote:It seems that UofL and WVU will be taking some steps back soon. I really believe that White,Slaton, and Renoyed all go to the draft. I think Rutgers has 1 more year of Rice before they bow out for the conference race.

Biggest winners
Uconn- still ayoung team, the 2008 season was going to be the breakout season. I think they will be even better
Cincy- With Brain Kelly staying and that QB from ND I think Cincy will gain from WVU situation
Pitt- May be the biggest winner here, with RR gone and Penn State being mediocre, Pitt looks primed to return to form


Syracuse is still 2 years back and USF I can't make a case for also


The Biggest winner is the University of South Florida Bulls. They are the ones with the coach that is not going anywhere-(and a coach unlike Wanny that can actually coach). They also have the largest pool of talent to recruit from. Plus they already won 18 games the past 2 years with most of that talent returning including All American George Selvie along with QB Matt Grothe and RB Ben Williams, Mike Ford and Jamar Taylor.

The talent in Pennsylvania is good but it still doesn't compare to what Leavitt can bring in by just circling 100 miles around Tampa.
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Brick City Pirate Wrote:Jackson, I think if West Virginia's skill people on offense come back, you will be fine scoring wise. Doesn't West Virginia lose a ton of defensive starters? I think West Virginia loses 3-4 games next year no matter who's the coach. Grobe might be on the market. He has listened to Arkansas & Nebraska. He would be a perfect fit with the talent coming back to West Virginia.


-- Yeah...we will lose something in defense....no doubt

---BTW...multiple sources indicate Nick Saban is "interested" in the WVU job....the question becomes how much can WVU offer in terms of salary

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What? Saban? He must be pissed that people are comparing him to Petrino, he knows he is at least at a higher level of not being trustworthy. :)
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which way to go?

experienced BCS coach?
experienced non BCS coach?
oc or dc coordinator?

alot to think about at probably the worst time to be looking for a coach. One good thing is rr had a good start in recruiting.
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Jimbo Fisher has reportedly told WVU that he is NOT interested, and from what I'm hearing Grobe will not be high on WVU's list.

Most of the talk surrounds Terry Bowden and CMU coach Butch Jones.

There is talk that Saban contacted WVU and has some interest, but thus far I don't think folks consider that a realistic scenario. But who knows.... the coaching carousel is crazy.
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Saban is feeling the backlash of anger in Alabama. Not only did he not beat Auburn, but Alabama didn't finish above .500. I'm sure Alabama's 4 million dollar man is feeling a good bit of heat.
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