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Somebody's holding a grudge
12-14-2007 09:26 AM
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RE: Somebody's holding a grudge
I see nothing wrong with that.
12-14-2007 09:28 AM
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subflea Wrote:I see nothing wrong with that.

I think it's kind of petty, but I really don't care that much. Petrino is a good coach and Jurich is a good AD, but they're both pricks.
12-14-2007 09:30 AM
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Don't hate the players 36, hate the game.

It's a dog eat dog college football world, and you know that, given the opportunity, Bobby P would pick UL football clean. Jurich has to protect UL football.
12-14-2007 09:46 AM
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If Tommy West had just quit and gone somewhere else you would be looking to keep him from picking Memphis clean as well... no issue with him protecting the players that committed to Louisville.
12-14-2007 09:57 AM
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BJUnklFkr Wrote:Don't hate the players 36, hate the game.

It's a dog eat dog college football world, and you know that, given the opportunity, Bobby P would pick UL football clean. Jurich has to protect UL football.

Exactly. You have to make sure your program won't get hurt by a greedy former coach.
12-14-2007 10:04 AM
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BJUnklFkr Wrote:Don't hate the players 36, hate the game.

It's a dog eat dog college football world, and you know that, given the opportunity, Bobby P would pick UL football clean. Jurich has to protect UL football.

Exactly. You have to make sure your program won't get hurt by a greedy former coach.

Yep. Send the message to Petrino. Louisville players are off limits to you.
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I see both sides of the argument, but you rarely see something like this outside the conference.
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There was a Duquense b-ball player a couple years ago (Mensah?) that wanted to transfer from Siena to Duquense, but Siena initially stipulated that Duquense was not a school he could transfer to because they felt Duquense's coach initiated the conversation about the player transferring. Siena eventually relented after a lot of discussions between both schools.
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UC had the same thing with DE Trevor Anderson. He said he wanted to transfer due to family issues. Kelly gave him a few schools, but Michigan St. was not on the list, becuase there was possible recruiting by Dantonio and staff. Later Anderson admitted that he had no family issues, and he is now paying his own way at MSU.
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Not a big deal. Its common practice in college. ND would not let a player transfer to any school that was on its schedule in the next 3 seasons. This is not the first time that I have seen this, and its certainly not something unique to this conference.
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3601 Wrote:I see both sides of the argument, but you rarely see something like this outside the conference.

Oh yes you do! It happens all the time. That's why the NCAA put this rule into place. Do you think they would have put that rule into place if it didn't happen alot?
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3601 Wrote:I see both sides of the argument, but you rarely see something like this outside the conference.

Oh yes you do! It happens all the time. That's why the NCAA put this rule into place. Do you think they would have put that rule into place if it didn't happen alot?

I've seen schools not allow transfers to conference opponents. And cuseroc mentioned that ND won't allow transfers to future opponents. That makes sense since ND isn't in a conference. However, I don't recall ever seeing something like this where a school wouldn't allow a transfer to another school that they don't even play. Do you?
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subflea Wrote:I see nothing wrong with that.

I think it's kind of petty, but I really don't care that much. Petrino is a good coach and Jurich is a good AD, but they're both pricks.

Spot on!
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3601 Wrote:I see both sides of the argument, but you rarely see something like this outside the conference.

Oh yes you do! It happens all the time. That's why the NCAA put this rule into place. Do you think they would have put that rule into place if it didn't happen alot?

I've seen schools not allow transfers to conference opponents. And cuseroc mentioned that ND won't allow transfers to future opponents. That makes sense since ND isn't in a conference. However, I don't recall ever seeing something like this where a school wouldn't allow a transfer to another school that they don't even play. Do you?

Actually, yes I have. Maybe I worded it to strong when I said all the time. I mean all the time when there is believed to be a violation. Cincinnati did it last year when it was believed Mark Dantonio was in contact with player AFTER taking the MSU job. A few years ago Southern Cal blocked a QB from transferring to UNLV after it was believed that UNLV was in contact with him while he was under scholarship with USC. Schools have done it when they thought that a coach was breaking NCAA rules and recruiting a player on a team that they left. Cincinnati eventually let him go to MSU, but I'm sure that other schools have done it to stop a coach from raiding the roster he left behind. It's a rule that NCAA put into place to stop a coach from jumping to another job outside the conference and then raiding that roster. Since coaches rarely jump from one job to another inside the conference (at least at the time the rule was instituted) it made sense to have a rule to protect a school from outside influences.
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Nobody can block a player from going to another school. The only thing they can do is block another school from offering them a scholarship for a year. UC did not give him a release to MSU, thus Trevor Anderson is paying this year at MSU.
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mlb Wrote:Nobody can block a player from going to another school. The only thing they can do is block another school from offering them a scholarship for a year. UC did not give him a release to MSU, thus Trevor Anderson is paying this year at MSU.

Exactly mlb, that's another thing, it's not a true blocking like in conference. It's just not giving a release or not allowing the other school to give a scholarship, so the player has to pay his own way. That's an important point that got lost in this.
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3601 Wrote:
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3601 Wrote:I see both sides of the argument, but you rarely see something like this outside the conference.

Oh yes you do! It happens all the time. That's why the NCAA put this rule into place. Do you think they would have put that rule into place if it didn't happen alot?

I've seen schools not allow transfers to conference opponents. And cuseroc mentioned that ND won't allow transfers to future opponents. That makes sense since ND isn't in a conference. However, I don't recall ever seeing something like this where a school wouldn't allow a transfer to another school that they don't even play. Do you?


Yes, if that school has hired the coach that recruited that athlete to the school. It happens all the time.

If Michigan hires Rodriquez, you can bet that any Eers player who wishes to transfer will be denied transfer to Michigan.

It's a basic fact of life in today's college athletics.

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