My point is not that bowl alignments will never change again but, rather, that we have to be sensible about which bowls we can realistically woo away from other conferences. The Big East needs to go in with a plan and it has to be a plan that makes more money for all of the prospective partners than what they are making right now. Just walking into a meeting and demanding a bowl because we think we deserve it will not result in anything but rolled eyeballs. People have to be smart about how to pursue future changes.

DBell Wrote:The BE needs to establish a new bowl for it #2 team. The new bowl should be in Tampa Florida just for the BE #2. This bowl should not be shared with Notre Dame.
Teams like Cincy, UCONN, Rutger, Syracuse, Louisville will have no trouble traveling to Tampa in large numbers. The problem with the BE teams traveling is the bowl distinations the BE gets.
The BE can no longer share bowls with ND because almost every bowl year in and year out will select ND over a BE team. The other issue is the BCS bowls. The BE does not have a set BCS bowl partner. SEC has Sugar bowl, PAC 10/B-11 has the Rose, ACC has the Orange Bowl. the B-12 has the Fiesta.
The BE needs to make sure that what happen to Cincy and UCONN over the past two years does not happen again

I would like to see the "Tropicana" (or whatever its called) Bowl in St Pete/Tampa become our #2 bowl after the BCS, but that is going to take time for it to grow into a $2.5 million bowl payout, which is the level needed for a #2 bowl.

The point is not barging in demanding stuff, but it DOES mean being PROACTIVE AND AGGRESSIVE in the pursuit of things we need.

We have to go on the attack.

SuperFlyBCat Wrote:New Big East Bowl lineup,

New Bowl Lineup for the Big East

#1 – BCS
#2 - Gator permanent for Big East VS. ACC
#3 - Indy Hall of Fame Bowl, Big East VS. Big Ten (New Bowl Game at Lucas Oil (Stadium)
#4 - Meineke Big East Vs. ACC
#5 – Liberty Bowl, Big East Vs SEC (CUSA get booted out)
#6 - A new Florida Bowl vs. SEC

The Big East drops the International Bowl and we kick CUSA out of the Liberty Bowl
The Big East adds 2 more Bowl Games vs. SEC and Big Ten. Every Bowl is VS. A BCS
Opponent. All Bowl game (not including the BCS) are in the South or East.

FYI Memphis has never played a Bowl Game at the Liberty Bowl.

Your 1st 2 make sense.. though I think gator likes the curent deal.
#3 is possible if they made that bowl..
#4 Meinecke wouldnt take your #4 they would look elswhere..
5. Liberty is 1.7 mil they wont take your #4 not to say anything for your #5..which may or may not get filled some years.
#6.. there is little reason for the BE to have 6 tie ins.. they will fill only 5 most years..

Krocker Krapp Wrote:#1 - BCS
#2 - Gator / Cotton vs. ACC / SEC - Rotate these two bowls with the Big 12.
#3 - Meineke / Sun vs. ACC / Pac-10 - Bump the Sun down a spot and rotate.
#4 - Tampa vs. Army/Navy or a leftover - Keep friends close and enemies closer.
#5 - International vs. MAC - We have a stake in this bowl and need it to work.
#6 - Papa John's vs. CUSA - The sixth place team has no reason to complain.

this makes much more sense...

bitcruncher Wrote:After WVU beats Ohio State - or Missouri - and wins the BCS Championship, I bet the hue and cry for a playoff dooms the BCS in the long term.

ahhhh.... errrrrr.... ohhhhh nevermind...

Bowl Gluttony: What to watch, what to miss
Mike Huguenin
Rivals.com College Football Editor

In our quest to help you manage your time during this hectic holiday season, here are our rankings of the "attractiveness" of the bowl matchups.

(An aside: If some of these matchups don't convince you there are about five or six too many bowls, we bet you're related to a conference commissioner or a coach.)

MIKE HUGENIN RANKS THE BOWLS

32. NEW ORLEANS BOWL, Dec. 21, FLORIDA ATLANTIC vs. MEMPHIS.
We'd rather spend time with our mother-in-law than watch this.

31. NEW MEXICO BOWL, Dec. 22, NEVADA at NEW MEXICO.
We'd rather shop for our mother-in-law than watch this.

30. INDEPENDENCE BOWL, Dec. 30, ALABAMA vs. COLORADO.
For the second season in a row, this bowl matches two 6-6 teams. The Tide will be traveling to Shreveport, La., for the second season in a row.

29. INTERNATIONAL BOWL, Jan. 5, BALL STATE vs. RUTGERS.
Ball State has a good quarterback (Nate Davis). Rutgers has a good tailback (Ray Rice). Other than that ...

28. HUMANITARIAN BOWL, Dec. 31, FRESNO STATE vs. GEORGIA TECH.
The Yellow Jackets are looking for a new coach, and we're sure the players will be real psyched to play in Boise on New Year's Eve on that blue field.

27. PAPAJOHNS.COM BOWL, Dec. 22, CINCINNATI vs. SOUTHERN MISS.
Cincy had a really nice season. The reward? A trip to Birmingham, Ala., to play in a stadium that should be destroyed.

26. EMERALD BOWL, Dec. 28, MARYLAND vs. OREGON STATE.
Poor Oregon State. The Beavers finish 8-4, yet still get sent to this bowl.

25. MOTOR CITY BOWL, Dec. 26, CENTRAL MICHIGAN vs. PURDUE.
These teams played Sept. 15, and the Boilermakers won by 23. Why the rematch?

24. ARMED FORCES BOWL, Dec. 31, AIR FORCE vs. CALIFORNIA.
Air Force is fun to watch. Cal was, too, until it … well … hmm, how do we say this nicely? Bottom line: The Golden Bears come in having lost six of their past seven.

23. TEXAS BOWL, Dec. 28, HOUSTON vs. TCU.
If we lived in Texas, we'd care. We don't live in Texas.

22. LAS VEGAS BOWL, Dec. 22, BYU vs. UCLA.
Another rematch. (Arrrggghhh.) The Bruins won by 10 on Sept. 8. But BYU has improved tremendously during the season. The Bruins have not.

21. SUN BOWL, Dec. 31, OREGON vs. USF.
Oregon enters with a three-game losing streak, and its coaches have to be worried about how the Bulls' quick, aggressive defense is going to treat the Ducks' quarterbacks.

20. ALAMO BOWL, Dec. 29, PENN STATE vs. TEXAS A&M.
Hey, we can't wait to see how the Aggies play for Gary Darnell. And we're looking forward to the news conferences with Joe Paterno now that his salary is public record.

19. GMAC BOWL, Jan. 6, BOWLING GREEN vs. TULSA.
Our rule of thumb: As long as there is the possibility of a ton of offense, it's worth watching. These teams average a combined 959.4 yards of offense per game.

18. HAWAII BOWL, Dec. 23, BOISE STATE vs. EAST CAROLINA.
See above. These teams average a combined 853.6 yards of offense per games. Plus, Boise State is a top-25 team. And what else is there to do two days before Christmas – spend time with the family?

17. MUSIC CITY BOWL, Dec. 31, FLORIDA STATE vs. KENTUCKY.
Two veteran coaches (FSU's Bobby Bowden and Kentucky's Rich Brooks) match wits. Plus, can Wildcats QB Andre' Woodson have success against Florida State's defense?

16. CHAMPS SPORTS BOWL, Dec. 28, BOSTON COLLEGE vs. MICHIGAN STATE.
It jumps a few spots because it'll be the final game for BC QB Matt Ryan, who played at an extremely high level for most of the season.

15. POINSETTIA BOWL, Dec. 20, NAVY vs. UTAH.
It gets bonus points for being the first bowl of the season. Plus, it'll be interesting to see whether Navy's powerful rushing attack can make much headway against the Utes' stout defense.

14. MEINEKE CAR CARE BOWL, Dec. 29, CONNECTICUT vs. WAKE FOREST.
A nice game-within-a-game between UConn's defense and Wake's motion-happy offense. Plus, it matches two good coaches (UConn's Randy Edsall and Wake's Jim Grobe), both of whom at least informally talked with schools seeking to fill positions.

13. LIBERTY BOWL, Dec. 29, MISSISSIPPI STATE vs. UCF.
Mississippi State, the SEC's biggest surprise, gets to go against the nation's top rusher in UCF running back Kevin Smith. The junior could set the Division I-A single-season rushing record if he picks up 181 yards. His average is 188.3 ypg.

12. INSIGHT BOWL, Dec. 31, INDIANA vs. OKLAHOMA STATE.
Indiana is one of the best feel-good stories of the season because of how the Hoosiers rallied in the wake of the offseason death of coach Terry Hoeppner. Plus, both offenses are good and both defenses are mediocre – which means there should be a lot of points.

11. ROSE BOWL, Jan. 1, ILLINOIS vs. USC.
Yes, the Illini have had a nice season. But on the face of it, this doesn't look as if it'll be a close game. Still, Ron Zook in the Rose Bowl is a cool thing.

10. OUTBACK BOWL, Jan. 1, TENNESSEE vs. WISCONSIN.
The Vols make their second consecutive trip to Tampa, Fla., for the postseason. The Outback is one of those intriguing Big Ten-SEC matchups.

9. ORANGE BOWL, Jan. 3, KANSAS vs. VIRGINIA TECH.
Last season's Orange Bowl matching Louisville and Wake Forest was close, but not all that entertaining. Why do we think this will be like that?

8. GATOR BOWL, Jan. 1, TEXAS TECH vs. VIRGINIA.
Texas Tech wings it all over the place; UVa. plays it close to the vest. Plus, the personality difference between Tech coach Mike Leach and Cavs counterpart Al Groh is as wide as the Pacific Ocean, which could make for some interesting news conferences.

7. CHICK-FIL-A BOWL, Dec. 31, AUBURN vs. CLEMSON.
Talk about a tough ticket. While it has been a decade, the Bowden family still harbors some ill will about how Terry was treated by Auburn officials.

6. COTTON BOWL, Jan. 1, ARKANSAS vs. MISSOURI.
In all likelihood, Darren McFadden's last college game. You have to feel for Mizzou; the Tigers were one win from playing for the national title but ended up here.

5. CAPITAL ONE BOWL, Jan. 1, FLORIDA vs. MICHIGAN.
Two of the nation's premier programs play in what essentially will be a home game for the Gators.

4. FIESTA BOWL, Jan. 2, OKLAHOMA vs. WEST VIRGINIA.
If WVU is over its post-Pitt hangover (how in the world did the Mountaineers lose to Pitt – at home?), this could be interesting.

3. SUGAR BOWL, Jan. 1, GEORGIA vs. HAWAII.
Big-time curiosity factor at work in this one. Hawaii's offense gives the Warriors a puncher's chance. But can the Warriors' defense stymie the Bulldogs?

2. HOLIDAY BOWL, Dec. 27, ARIZONA STATE vs. TEXAS.
The Sun Devils can make a case that they belong in the BCS. And if not for a loss to Texas A&M in the regular-season finale, Texas may have been in the BCS.

1. BCS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME, Jan. 7, LSU vs. OHIO STATE.
Hey, it's for the national title. It doesn't get any better than that.

This list appeared on the Rivals website on Monday, December 3, 2007.

goodknightfl Wrote:

bitcruncher Wrote:After WVU beats Ohio State - or Missouri - and wins the BCS Championship, I bet the hue and cry for a playoff dooms the BCS in the long term.

hhhh.... errrrrr.... ohhhhh nevermind...

The hue and cry has already begun. I guess Ohio State making the game, and the debate over who deserved to be the opponent, was enough.

I'm not worried about the loss. Sh!t happens. When was the last time UCF ever had a chance to play for it all?