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USA Today Coaches Poll/WVU #1/BIG EAST Screwed again
Nov. 25, 2007
Rank Team (first-place votes) Record Points Last week

1. West Virginia (37) 10-1 1,467 3

2. Missouri (17) 11-1 1,454 4
3. Ohio State (6) 11-1 1,383 5
4. Georgia 10-2 1,232 7
T5. Kansas 11-1 1,161 2
T5. Virginia Tech 10-2 1,161 8
7. LSU 10-2 1,134 1
8. Oklahoma 10-2 1,126 9
9. Southern California 9-2 1,073 12
10. Hawaii 11-0 958 13
11. Florida 9-3 898 14
12. Boston College 10-2 861 16
13. Arizona State 9-2 756 6
14. Illinois 9-3 674 18
15. Tennessee 9-3 654 19
16. Wisconsin 9-3 493 20
17. Clemson 9-3 469 22
18. Texas 9-3 417 11
19. Brigham Young 9-2 327 23
20. Oregon 8-3 316 10
T21. Auburn 8-4 271 25
T21. Virginia 9-3 271 15
23. Boise State 10-2 247 17
24. Cincinnati 9-3 146 NR
25. Arkansas 8-4 145 NR

Dropped out
No. 21 Connecticut (9-3, lost to then-No. 3 West Virginia 66-21), No. 24 Texas Tech (8-4, idle).

Others receiving votes
Texas Tech (8-4) 116; South Florida (9-3) 100; Connecticut (9-3) 54; Air Force (9-3) 41; Penn State (8-4) 19; Central Florida (9-3) 18; Michigan (8-4) 17; Wake Forest (8-4) 9; Oregon State (7-4) 7; Rutgers (7-4) 6; Mississippi State (7-5) 4; Oklahoma State (6-6) 4; Michigan State (7-5) 3; Troy (8-3) 3; Houston (8-4) 2; Tulsa (9-3) 2; Fresno State (7-4) 1.

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If Mizzou beats Oklahoma, they'll probably jump the Mountaineers. But as long as Ohio State doesn't jump us for doing nothing I'm satisfied.
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bitcruncher Wrote:If Mizzou beats Oklahoma, they'll probably jump the Mountaineers. But as long as Ohio State doesn't jump us for doing nothing I'm satisfied.

1. Mizzou is NOT going to beat Oklahoma
2. USF should be ranked, they will be in the BCS Rankings but the Coaches Poll is a joke. USF IMO is the most talented team in the BIG EAST, they were just to young to take advantage of their WVU win.
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bitcruncher Wrote:If Mizzou beats Oklahoma, they'll probably jump the Mountaineers. But as long as Ohio State doesn't jump us for doing nothing I'm satisfied.
1. Mizzou is NOT going to beat Oklahoma
2. USF should be ranked, they will be in the BCS Rankings but the Coaches Poll is a joke. USF IMO is the most talented team in the BIG EAST, they were just to young to take advantage of their WVU win.
You'll note I said IF. That is a big word.

As for USF, if they hadn't taken a 3 game nose dive they probably would have. Especially when you consider they didn't lose to just anyone.
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I am extremely excited for West Virginia. Congratulations to the Mountaineers.

Auburn and Arkansas have no business being ranked though. South Florida beat Auburn head to head at their field, has a better overall record, and does not get ranked? That is baloney!

Arkansas has two great players but went through a very mediocre season. One upset at the end of the year does not suddenly turn them into a Top 25 team! That is shortsighted voting.

How do Illinois and Wisconsin rise four spots without playing? The BCS fix is in.
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How is Cincinnati only 24th and how is South Florida not ranked!? At least West Virginia is #1, that is right.
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CatsClaw Wrote:How is Cincinnati only 24th and how is South Florida not ranked!? At least West Virginia is #1, that is right.

JMO, the coaches in the SEC and ACC DON'T want USF to be ranked because another Top Florida school is going to take players from them.

Well guess what Saban, Fulmer, O'Brien ect. ect. USF is not going anywhere and Leavitt is building a powerhouse in Tampa.
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Of course the fix is in. Its all about the money now and BCS slots. There are 10 slots. :bcs: :bcs: :bcs:

BE will only get one slot by the constant poll screwing. 03-nutkick

Other 5 conferences are praying for Washington to beat Hawaii next week. 03-shhhh

Four of the other conferences will get 2 BCS slots while one will only get one slot like the BE. As time goes on with this BCS gig the power conferences will be pushing for 3 slots per conference. SEC will lead the charge on that one. 04-jawdrop 04-jawdrop
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West Virginia on track for BCS title game
Steve Megargee | Rivals.com College Football Staff Writer
November 24, 2007

MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — The pandemonium that erupted at Milan Puskar Stadium as West Virginia celebrated its Big East championship Saturday represented a larger-scale version of the bedlam that took place in the privacy of the Mountaineers' team hotel about 24 hours earlier.

West Virginia had just broken from team meetings Friday night when the Arkansas-LSU game headed into its final stages. Shortly after the players got back into their rooms, Arkansas cornerback Matterral Richardson made the game-clinching interception that knocked LSU out of the national title chase and allowed West Virginia to control its destiny.

The party started immediately afterward.

"Everybody ran out of their hotel room up and down the hallways for like five minutes," West Virginia strong safety Eric Wicks recalled Saturday after the Mountaineers' 66-21 victory over Connecticut. "Somebody stripped naked and did it, too. Let's put it like that. We had a streaker."

Wicks wouldn't name the player who shed his clothes, and quarterback Pat White insists he stayed in his room the entire time. So we can rule out the possibility that the sight of the streaker is what made White so sick.

White rushed for 186 yards and accounted for three touchdowns even though he said he vomited "about 12 times" over the course of the game. His Heisman-caliber effort helped move West Virginia one step closer to a spot in the BCS national championship game.

West Virginia (10-1 overall, 5-1 in the Big East) has clinched its fourth Big East crown in the past five seasons and should move into one of the top two spots when the BCS standings are released Sunday. A victory at home against Pittsburgh (4-7) next week almost certainly would allow the Mountaineers to play for the national title.

The Mountaineers can only hope White is feeling better by then, though his illness certainly didn't hurt his performance Saturday. In fact, it may have helped him.

"Most of the time, it was when I was getting tackled that I was (vomiting)," White said.

Maybe that explains why the Huskies appeared in no hurry to tackle him for most of the night. Of course, White's speed and shiftiness also probably had something to do with it.

White ran for a 3-yard score and threw a 14-yard touchdown pass to Darius Reynaud to cap West Virginia's first two possessions of the day. He then broke open a relatively close game early in the third quarter with the type of play that exemplified his ability to make the spectacular look routine.

West Virginia led 24-14 and was facing a third-and-15 situation in its opening possession of the second half. White zigged to his right and ran between two defenders, then zagged to his left between two Huskies on his way to a 24-yard touchdown. White's amazing run started a string of 42 consecutive points for West Virginia.

"I dropped back to pass, and I guess they did a great job of covering," White calmly explained afterward. "All the defenders dropped out, and I started running right. There were white jerseys to the right, so I cut left. And (there was) great blocking downfield and I happened to get to the end zone."

With one regular-season game and a bowl matchup left on his schedule, White has 1,144 rushing yards, which gives him a remote chance of breaking the NCAA single-season mark for quarterbacks. Air Force's Beau Morgan rushed for 1,494 yards in 1996.

If he sticks around for his senior year, White has an excellent opportunity to set the NCAA career quarterback rushing record currently held by Missouri's Brad Smith, who ran for 4,289 yards from 2002-05. White has 3,315 rushing yards in his first three seasons.

"I think he's the best football player in the country," West Virginia coach Rich Rodriguez said.

Rodriguez acknowledged he was biased, and noted that coaches of other Heisman Trophy candidates would probably say the same thing about their own players. But he wasn't the only coach speaking out on White's behalf Saturday.

"I'm not sure that there is one who is better than him," Connecticut coach Randy Edsall said. "He's got my vote."

White's big game came on a day in which he and Steve Slaton both went over 1,000 yards for the season to become just the third set of teammates to rush for 1,000 yards in back-to-back years. The only other teammates to accomplish that feat are the current Arkansas duo of Darren McFadden and Felix Jones and the former Minnesota tandem of Marion Barber and Laurence Maroney.

The presence of White and Slaton made West Virginia a popular preseason pick to contend for the national title. They certainly did their part Saturday in helping the Mountaineers rush for 517 yards - 415 in the second half - and achieve their highest point total since an 80-7 thrashing of Rutgers on Nov. 3, 2001.

West Virginia's onslaught came against a Connecticut team that entered the day with the nation's third-ranked scoring defense. Connecticut allowed a total of 45 points in its first four games this season; West Virginia reached the 45-point mark by the end of the third quarter Saturday.

"We're firing on all cylinders," said Slaton, who rushed for 54 yards and two touchdowns.

Even the West Virginia defense that received so much criticism a year ago has developed into a well-oiled machine.

The Mountaineers ranked 109th in the nation in pass defense last year and allowed a total of 193 points in their final six games of the season. This year, West Virginia's defense is making more big plays than it's allowing.

Connecticut learned that lesson the hard way.

Picked to finish seventh out of eight Big East teams in the preseason, the Huskies had put themselves in position to win the conference title because they rarely made mistakes. Connecticut was ranked fifth in the nation in turnover margin and had only 11 giveaways in its first 11 games.

That all ended Saturday.

Connecticut (9-3, 5-2) trailed 17-7 but had the ball at West Virginia's 35 in the second quarter when Mortty Ivy sacked Tyler Lorenzen for the second time and knocked the ball loose, forcing a fumble that Scooter Berry recovered at the 40. Four plays later, Slaton scored from 31 yards out to extend West Virginia's lead to 17-7.

WVU later scored a touchdown on its own when Reed Williams pounced on the ball in the end zone after a snap bounced off Lorenzen's left shoulder.

"(We were) just hustling to the ball," said free safety Ryan Mundy, whose recovery of a fumbled punt return led to West Virginia's second touchdown of the game. "That's been a trademark of our defense all year."

West Virginia's ability to seize the moment represented a refreshing departure from the this season's norm. This season full of upsets has seen a parade of pretenders fall by the wayside almost as soon as they've entered the national title picture.

Instead of getting consumed by the pressure, West Virginia embraced the opportunity. The Mountaineers now are just one win away from realizing a possibility that seemed so unlikely when they fell to USF in September.


"We're kind of to the point where you're where you dreamed about where you want to be growing up as a child playing football," Wicks said. "A lot of people want to be on this level. We feel like we're close. We're real close."

If they're able to live out that dream, we can only imagine how the Mountaineers would celebrate afterward.

Actually, we'd rather not imagine it.

This article appeared on the Rivals website on Saturday, November 24, 2007.
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The most insane thing of all is that Auburn is ranked 21. This is why I have always considered the AP poll to be more accurate then the Coaches Poll even though the AP is no longer part of the BCS formula. I did say I considered West Virginia #1 and they did that, so I guess I'll have to give them credit for getting that right.
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I seriously want Missouri to beat Oklahoma and knock them out of BCS contention. The Old Boys plan is so obvious. What they want is for Washington to get rid of Hawaii so that the SEC, Big Ten, Pac-10, and Big 12 are all assured of two BCS bids ... undeserving Illinois to go to the Rose Bowl to preserve their overblown tradition ... and Ohio State to deal with upstart West Virginia and teach the Big East a lesson we are supposed to never forget.
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While recognizing that there most definitely is an Old Boys Network, the fact remains that both South Florida and, to a lesser extent, Cincinnati, were on the march up the polls and both cracked under the pressure (more true of the Bearcats than the Bulls considering who they would lose to).

Had South Florida beaten either UConn or Rutgers and had Cincinnati beaten either Pitt or Louisville (and let's face it, they should have beaten both), they'd both likely be ranked in the Top 15.

It could be argued that UConn actually had the better season than either the Bearcats or the Bulls, perhaps due to the fact that they were underrated - and overlooked - for most of the season.

It will be interesting to see how all three teams come back next year.

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Cincinnati and South Florida have strong non-conference wins and multiple Top 25 wins and no blow out losses. I wouldn't be quick to say Connecticut had the better season other then they finished a spot ahead of them in the Big East standings.
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CatsClaw Wrote:Cincinnati and South Florida have strong non-conference wins and multiple Top 25 wins and no blow out losses. I wouldn't be quick to say Connecticut had the better season other then they finished a spot ahead of them in the Big East standings.

Hail Cat's Claw!

I wasn't saying that they did have a better season, I said it could be argued that they did.

After all, they did beat who they were suppose to beat. Can Cincinnati say the same thing?

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omnicarrier Wrote:Hail Cat's Claw!

I wasn't saying that they did have a better season, I said it could be argued that they did.

After all, they did beat who they were suppose to beat. Can Cincinnati say the same thing?

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A point severely missed by all the Cincy fans here. UCONN was the underdog vs. both WVU and Cincy, so UCONN was not suppose to win. UCONN was also the underdog against UVA as well.

Cincy, on the other hand, was favored against both Pitt and UL. USF was favored against RU, Cincy and UCONN.

It is debatable who did what or who had a better season. The real answer is it depends. That's the whole point lost here.
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omnicarrier Wrote:While recognizing that there most definitely is an Old Boys Network, the fact remains that both South Florida and, to a lesser extent, Cincinnati, were on the march up the polls and both cracked under the pressure (more true of the Bearcats than the Bulls considering who they would lose to).

Had South Florida beaten either UConn or Rutgers and had Cincinnati beaten either Pitt or Louisville (and let's face it, they should have beaten both), they'd both likely be ranked in the Top 15.
I think I would have to agree that USF should have worked their way back into the polls by now. They are winning but I guess the voters don't like who they are beating. Other teams with poorer records are moving past them from behind.

Cinci could be a little higher if you consider their recent loss is to the #1 team.
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That UVA loss still hurts...we were a bad snap away from potentially winning the game. We played well enough.
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CatsClaw Wrote:Cincinnati and South Florida have strong non-conference wins and multiple Top 25 wins and no blow out losses. I wouldn't be quick to say Connecticut had the better season other then they finished a spot ahead of them in the Big East standings.

Hail Cat's Claw!

I wasn't saying that they did have a better season, I said it could be argued that they did.

After all, they did beat who they were suppose to beat. Can Cincinnati say the same thing?

Cheers,
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Neil, you typically make good sense. This post does not make good sense. UC beat Rutgers on the road. UC beat South Florida on the road. Was UC supposed to beat these teams at the time these games played? UC detroyed UCONN. UC destroyed Oregon State which incidently is having a good season. UC was an underdog in this game at the time it was played. So yes, UC did beat some teams it was not supposed to beat.

Moreover, UC played four of its seven Big East games on the road. UCONN played three of its Big East games on the road which indicates to me that UCONN had an easier Big East schedule. This should not be lost in the analysis here. So this business about UCONN and UC playing the same schedule of Big East games is not accurate.
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I tell you one thing that i HATE about this crappy bowl deals. That it has turned many in this board and others into constantly trying to put the other schools down in trying to elevate theirs.
Lets take a deep breath and realize that this is NOT the end of the world, yes no one wants to end up at 9-3 in bham but someone will. It will NOT make or break their season nor their future.
So while I can understand the frustration lets try to stop all this Im better than you because .... crap.
Because the reality is that ALL three schools have positive things in their resume and ALL three have negative ones.
So its kind of childish and not productive all these back and forth when none of us will make the final decision.
Ill attend ANY Bowl my school makes and Ill root for them and every Big East team in any Bowl they get chosen to.
Go Bulls!!!!, Go Big East!!!!!!
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The poll is about what I expected. The pollsters put a lot of weight into wins and losses and losing streaks hurt teams.

I think Cincy and South Florida are both top 15 teams, but losing streaks don't sit well with pollsters. South Florida lost their 3 games by a total of 15 points and beat the current #1...they deserve better, I think.

Hawaii has no business being in the top 10. I don't care that they beat Boise State. Hopefully Washington pulls their heads out of their asses and keeps the Warriors out of the BCS.
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