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I haven't talked much to WAC fans about UTEP being a C-USA candidate. What's your feeling on this issue?
04-07-2004 02:53 PM
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That is a very interesting and loaded question. Five years ago I would have been all for a move, but after the exodus of several of the better schools I don't know how strong C-USA is. I really wouldn't mind being in a conference with Memphis ECU Marshall and UCF, even though they are on the other side of the country. The thing is I don't think the Big East is done expanding I fully expect those schools to be added to the Big East. If that happened the only name school left would be Southern Miss. The WAC isn't very stable I admitt that Nevada fresno and boise state prostitute themselves to the Mountain West everyday. If we got a guarantee no one else was leaving C-USA I say we go. The fact is C-USA has the best reputation of all the non-bcs leagues and we would get alot more exposure in C-USA.
04-07-2004 03:21 PM
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I'm of the opinion that the Miners should roll up their sleeves and make the WAC a good home.

As I've said many times on the C-USA board, UTEP has a fine program and I wish them nothing but the best of luck. But UTEP is a western school and should be in a western conference. That's not a statement of quality, just geography. Whether that's the WAC or (shudder) the MWC, the Miners just have so much more in common with the schools out west.

I honestly believe the WAC is rounding into shape. NMSU will be a great conference rival for UTEP (like they weren't already a rival), and Utah State brings good hoops and a new market. If and when La Tech gets a conference home closer to their backyard secured, Benson will have put the "west" back in the WAC.
04-07-2004 03:34 PM
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I'm sure all NMSU fans want UTEP to stay in the WAC since it will just intensify a very intense rivalry. UTEP and NMSU already play each other in all common sports, but having the games count in the WAC standings will make it even more fun. The proximity of the 2 schools also helps the other WAC schools a lot with travel costs for BB and non-revenue sports.

I would think UTEP would be leery of CUSA's stability and it's long-term goals. The Big East is probably not done expanding and CUSA represents its most likely target. If CUSA would comit to a more southern/southwestern geography, then I think UTEP (and even NMSU) might be interested, but if they expand into MAC territory or Philadelphia - that's a travel disaster.
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Great points NuMexAg however I disagree with you about the stability issue. The WAC is not stable the MWC will expand to 12 and Nevada Fresno and Hawaiii are constantly prostituting themselves to the mountain west. If they leave who will replace them? It will have to be 1-aa schools I don't want to be in that kind of conference. I am really looking forward to playing NMSU in conference games the intensity level will be incredible. However in this matter I think UTEP has to watch out for our selves we don't want to stay and then in three years be screwed by the other schools. i think UTEP has been hurt throughout our history by are lack of exposure in Texas. C-USA would remedy that problem. Plus we have huge alumni bases in Houston and Dallas. When we play SMU in football or basketball UTEP brings more fans than the ponies. We have the money to travel in C-USA no problem Bob Stull has done a greatr job of increasing revenue. I just think it would be stupid not to leave if we are invited to C-USA. This is no longer the same WAC that UTEP has been apart of for so long. You may as well call this the Big West we are the only school that hasn't competed in the big West. All the other schools have established rivalries with each other we do no(except for NMSU 2005). The fact is C-USA has the best reputation among non-Bcs leagues. Plus they get way more exposure than the WAC or MWC. I think C-USA is to good of an oppurtunity to pass up if they invite us.
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Minerfanatic Wrote:That is a very interesting and loaded question. Five years ago I would have been all for a move, but after the exodus of several of the better schools I don't know how strong C-USA is. I really wouldn't mind being in a conference with Memphis ECU Marshall and UCF, even though they are on the other side of the country. The thing is I don't think the Big East is done expanding I fully expect those schools to be added to the Big East. If that happened the only name school left would be Southern Miss. The WAC isn't very stable I admitt that Nevada fresno and boise state prostitute themselves to the Mountain West everyday. If we got a guarantee no one else was leaving C-USA I say we go. The fact is C-USA has the best reputation of all the non-bcs leagues and we would get alot more exposure in C-USA.
My question wasn't intended to be loaded, but if it matters, I'll point out that I am more in favor of adding Louisiana Tech to C-USA than I am UTEP. I've read the arguments in UTEP's favor: Good facilities, the hiring of Mike Price, great fan support, etc. Those are all great arguments in UTEP's favor. However, UTEP's would-be divisional rivals (Tulane, Tulsa, Rice, SMU, and Houston) would be anywhere from 700 to over 1,000 miles away. C-USA would span three time zones. Do UTEP and the "new" C-USA members really want to take on those kind of travel costs? Remember, we're not just talking about football or men's basketball; we're talking about other sports as well.
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I agree that LaTech is a much better fit for CUSA, but they will probably make an illogical choice like the MWC.
04-08-2004 08:34 AM
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Minerfanatic - certainly agree about the lack of WAC stability. Who knows what the MWC will do? Both UTEP and NMSU are kind of located in the middle of nowhere (but we like it!), so will need to continue to better themselves to be ready to go either east or west in the next round of musical chairs.

Also agree about your alumni base in Texas (NMSU has a similar strong contingent, though maybe not as large). Just a case of CUSA defining where they want to be and how that fits UTEP.

I kind of expect UTEP to end up in the MWC (but am hoping the WAC holds together and they stay in).
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Hmmm, should I? Yeah, why not? ****BUMP****
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