EvilVodka1 Wrote:My point on all this is, alot of programs would like to be considered "decent"...its hard to even get to decent, don't take it for granted...

I completely agree... I'd classify us right now as "decent", as we've been to six bowls in ten years... pretty long way from "good", though, as I believe we need to string together five or more seasons like the one we're having now.

My point about BC was, they're decent, yet so arrogant about it at the same time. Re-reading, I didn't make that point too clear originally.

In a reminder of a good ol' fashioned Big East game, VaTech destroys BC in Blacksburg! You heard it here first, folks!

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Orange Eagles Wrote:...yet all of you would welcome BC back into the conference in a heartbeat.


Myself included, but them being a tradional rival of 'Cuse we'll get to play them every year anyway, so it's no big deal.

Syracuse had their bags packed and ready to go as well, until Virginia politics pushed them out of the deal

Any Big East program would have jumped

While this is true, but what you dont mention is that Syracuse still had an opportunity to go to the Acc. After the NCAA told the acc that they needed 12 teams to launch their coveted conference championship game, they were still at only 11 members. The only thing that Syracuse had to do was call the acc and tell them that they were still interested in becoming the 12th member of the acc, but they didnt. BC did. And thats how BC ended up in the acc.

It seems to have worked out well for the time being for BC. It also worked out for SU as well, being that the BE is presently fielding better overall teams and getting higher tv ratings. During the next round of tv negotiations, I think the acc is going to actually have their contracts reduced, since the ESPN family gave them contracts according to the potential of the new ACC, a potential that to this day still has not been realized.

usffan, I didn't like BC back when they were in the Big East and UofL was not even being mentioned for BE membership. It's solely because of their fans. I've never seen a group of fans so deluded over the reality of their program. About the only week of the season I root for BC is when they play ND.

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BJUnklFkr Wrote:This pretty much says it all:

Quote:BC will never be looked at as a CUSA/MEAC, we are in the ACC, we have some sort of history, we have been a decent team for a long time.

At BCU, we have some sort of history of being... DECENT

decent is better than no history, which is about half the Big East

Tulane has history. So does TCU. Why are they not in the same category as LSU, Oklahoma, Michigan, etc.?

The answer is BCS. The BCS wasn't around in 1983 to prevent Miami from becoming a national power.

1. It was the BC guy who brought up history, not me. I simply chose to parodize their fans arrogance.

2. I care nothing about "history and tradition" in regard to football. Neither has any bearing on football being played in the here and now.

You're an LSU fan, so you'd know about this... how much has "history and tradition" helped Alabama of late?

eh...I wouldn't put my foot in my mouth about history...

History is why 92,000 showed up for a spring game in Tuscaloosa to see Saban try and revive the echoes in the Alabama program...after Saban starts getting some good recruits, Alabama is going to get scary...

History is why Notre Dame has their own TV contract...History is why people vote Ohio State ahead of South Florida

College football thrives on history and tradition

Tulane has history. So does TCU. Why are they not in the same category as LSU, Oklahoma and Michigan?

The answer is the BCS. The BCS wasn't around in 1983 to prevent Miami from becoming a national power. So, history is not all that you make it out to be.

I never liked BC when I was in school and I certainly do not like them now. The reason I would want them back in the league in the future, however, is because this is where they belong. Period. They are a natural rival for Connecticut, Syracuse, and Rutgers. BC is located in a market that rightfully belongs to us. Let the ACC have Temple if they want a Northeastern market. New England is Big East territory and nothing would make the world right moreso than BC returning home and repeatedly getting their butts kicked by everyone in our league on an annual basis.

BearcatOne Wrote:Tulane has history. So does TCU. Why are they not in the same category as LSU, Oklahoma and Michigan?

The answer is the BCS. The BCS wasn't around in 1983 to prevent Miami from becoming a national power. So, history is not all that you make it out to be.

eh...not quite...

Tulane has a losing record over all: 478-547-38
that's not history, or at least the kind that you want...
Tulane was actually a charter member of the SEC...had they stayed in the SEC, their history would probably be a little better, but not much...the BCS label isn't a cure-all, as you can see with Vanderbilt

As for TCU, they were in the SouthWest Conference for 72 years...they had 9 conference championships, including a National Championship in 1938

Compare that with Texas, who had 25 conference championships, and 3 National Championships

not quite the same history...Texas is 60-20-1 vs. TCU all-time

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/...eamid=3204

you could do other comparisons between TCU and Texas, and find even more disparity...

hell, even LSU's history is moderate compared to some of the other BCS teams like USC and Oklahoma

The only thing wrong with Texas is all the Texans in it.

Krocker Krapp Wrote:I never liked BC when I was in school and I certainly do not like them now. The reason I would want them back in the league in the future, however, is because this is where they belong. Period. They are a natural rival for Connecticut, Syracuse, and Rutgers. BC is located in a market that rightfully belongs to us. Let the ACC have Temple if they want a Northeastern market. New England is Big East territory and nothing would make the world right moreso than BC returning home and repeatedly getting their butts kicked by everyone in our league on an annual basis.

Let the ACC have Temple?!?!?!?! THANKS!

Although, in hoops we could make them top 25 again, so not that bad of an idea. I would have liked George Washington if they still had a football team.