Brick City Pirate Wrote:CardinalJim, Sorry to hear about your job situation. Good Luck with your future employment!

I want to echo what BCP said, Cardinal Jim, it certainly puts relatively pedestrian things like watching football games into perspective. Good luck and I am sure you will land on your feet before you know it.

BCP / KK,
Thats for the support. I appreciate the kind words. Something is bound to break. It's only been three weeks but it feels like it's been forever...LOL. Sending resumes out everyday and have a couple of leads for today so I'll see what happens. Thanks again,
Jim

As long as The BEast keeps winning their bowl games, screw the rest of the nation.

I hope The BEast gets to play the SEC and either the Big 10 or Pac 10 Champions in BCS games. WVU and USF will both get bids.

I would like to see UC play a big 10 team....usually they are running teams with less than prolific passing offenses....this is the type of team we've destroyed this year.

It's pity y'all don't play Ohio State this year.

bitcruncher Wrote:As long as The BEast keeps winning their bowl games, screw the rest of the nation.

I hope The BEast gets to play the SEC and either the Big 10 or Pac 10 Champions in BCS games. WVU and USF will both get bids.

Just curious, what makes you think South Florida and West Virginia are going to get autobids?

IMO, Rutgers could still win the conference, especially if they win out

With so many teams, with one loss in conference, it is easier to project who won't get the second bid if the Big East does indeed get two.

In my opinion Louisville, UConn and Rutgers none have a shot at the second BCS bid. All have out of conference losses to non traditional powers. The only way any of these teams see the BCS is if they win the conference. And if you can bet a dollar to a donut that no conference that has a regular season champion that lost to Utah, Virigina or Maryland is going to get two bids.

Cincinnati and WVU both have only one loss and their loss was in conference. I believe the Bearcats loss to Louisville hurts them. If they don't win out and get the automatic bid, I don't see them getting a second bid because of their loss to the Cardinals. In this case, Louisville's losses to Uath and Syracuse hurt the Bearcats. WVU is presently in the drivers seat for the second bid. Their only loss was to USF, in conference, in a close game. If the 'Eers win out, with their present position in the BCS polls, it will be difficult to keep them out of the BCS. In a perfect world for the Big East both WVU and USF would win out and the Big East Conference would get two bids.

USF is truly in the drivers seat. If they win out they are in. If not they may have a difficult time getting the second bid because any losses that they may incur would hurt them in the BCS rankings because they would be seen as losses to inferior teams. Obviously if USF losses one game and they tie with WVU, the Bulls get the bid.

I'm not sure the Big East will be seen as having enough strength at the top for two teams if USF losses to one of the remaining teams on their schedule. It is not the Bulls fault that Louisville and Rutgers lost some games out of conference that they should not have but they could suffer because of it.

Again I say in a perfect world for the Big East, both USF and WVU would win out and the Big East Conference would get two bids.

It's going to be fun watching them earn it.
CJ

CardinalJim Wrote:Again I say in a perfect world for the Big East, both USF and WVU would win out and the Big East Conference would get two bids.

It's going to be fun watching them earn it.
CJ

You do know that if Louisville wins out, they'd win the Big East???

Do you really want to roll over and give up any chance for a Big East title so fast??? Just cause you lost to Kentucky, same team that just beat my #1 Tigers, and Utah and Syracuse...cmon man, get some guts...there's still alot of football to be played, and there's no reason Louisville couldn't find themselves in the Orange, Sugar, or Fiesta Bowls...

I agree with your analysis Jim, regarding the scenario where WVU/USF is the only dual-BE bid scenraio.

Evil V, about RU and UL, it would be interesting if one of them were involved in a tie for first place in the end. I believe somewhere in the BE tiebreaker system, the higher BCS-ranked team gets the nod. This is actually one that I'd be watching, because if UC wins out, and USF otherwise wins out, then UC/USF would sit atop the conference. Not sure if the ranking thing is the primary, or secondary (after head-to-head) tie-breaker. Since USF is a Florida school recently selling out RayJay, I believe they'd be an attractive at-large Orange Bowl selection. I can't say Cincinnati would be considered for an at-large at this point.

EvilVodka1 Wrote:You do know that if Louisville wins out, they'd win the Big East???

Do you really want to roll over and give up any chance for a Big East title so fast??? Just cause you lost to Kentucky, same team that just beat my #1 Tigers, and Utah and Syracuse...cmon man, get some guts...there's still alot of football to be played, and there's no reason Louisville couldn't find themselves in the Orange, Sugar, or Fiesta Bowls...

In your earlier post you asked how could the Big East get two bids. I explained to you how that would happen. In the same post I mentioned that if Louisville won out they would get the bid.
I love to see it and would try to make the game. Of course, however, I am a realist, and don't expect that to happen. In that case I hope my perfect world senario plays out and the football playing schools in our conference pocket twice as much money.
Don't be so narrow minded that you equat rooting for teams in your conference to "rolling over"? I can assure there will be no rolling over by any Big East team.
CJ

CardinalJim Wrote:

EvilVodka1 Wrote:You do know that if Louisville wins out, they'd win the Big East???

Do you really want to roll over and give up any chance for a Big East title so fast??? Just cause you lost to Kentucky, same team that just beat my #1 Tigers, and Utah and Syracuse...cmon man, get some guts...there's still alot of football to be played, and there's no reason Louisville couldn't find themselves in the Orange, Sugar, or Fiesta Bowls...

In the same post I mentioned that if Louisville won out they would get the bid.
I love to see it and would try to make the game. Of course, however, I am a realist, and don't expect that to happen.
CJ

Why? I think Louisville has as good a shot as any team in the Big East...that's what I don't get behind your thinking

BJUnklFkr Wrote:I agree with your analysis Jim, regarding the scenario where WVU/USF is the only dual-BE bid scenraio.

Evil V, about RU and UL, it would be interesting if one of them were involved in a tie for first place in the end. I believe somewhere in the BE tiebreaker system, the higher BCS-ranked team gets the nod. This is actually one that I'd be watching, because if UC wins out, and USF otherwise wins out, then UC/USF would sit atop the conference. Not sure if the ranking thing is the primary, or secondary (after head-to-head) tie-breaker. Since USF is a Florida school recently selling out RayJay, I believe they'd be an attractive at-large Orange Bowl selection. I can't say Cincinnati would be considered for an at-large at this point.

Seems like Cincinnati should get it for the head-to-head win

Conference Call: Handing out midseason awards
By Tom Dienhart
Sporting News

The college football season's half over, and it's time to hand out some hardware. Let's do it! Here are my midseason award winners:

ACC
Offensive player: Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
Defensive player: Chris Long, DE, Virginia
Coach: Jeff Jagodzinski, Boston College
Freshman: T.J. Yates, QB, North Carolina
Game: Wake Forest 31, Maryland 24 OT
Upset: North Carolina 33, Miami 27
Best remaining game: Boston College at Virginia Tech, Oct. 25
Coach who needs a fast finish: Al Groh, Virginia

Big Ten
Offensive player: Mike Hart, RB, Michigan
Defensive player: Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
Coach: Ron Zook, Illinois
Freshman: Rejus Benn, WR, Illinois
Game: Wisconsin 37, Michigan State 34
Upset: Appalachian State 34, Michigan 32
Best remaining game: Ohio State at Michigan, Nov. 17
Coach who needs a fast finish: Kirk Ferentz, Iowa

Big 12
Offensive player: Graham Harrell, QB, Texas Tech
Defensive player: Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas
Coach: Mark Mangino, Kansas
Freshman: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
Game: Oklahoma State 49, Texas Tech 45
Upset: Colorado 27, Oklahoma 24
Best remaining game: Oklahoma at Texas Tech, Nov. 17
Coach who needs a fast finish: Bill Callahan, Nebraska

Big East
Offensive player: Pat White, QB, West Virgiinia
Defensive player: George Selvie, E, USF
Coach: Brian Kelly, Cincinnati
Freshman: LeSean McCoy, RB, Pitt
Game: South Florida 21, West Virginia 13
Upset: Syracuse 38, Louisville 35
Best remaining game: South Florida at Rutgers, Oct. 18
Coach who needs a fast finish: Dave Wannstedt, Pitt

Pac-10
Offensive player: DeSean Jackson, WR, Cal
Defensive player: Robert James, LB, Arizona State
Coach: Dennis Erickson, Arizona State
Freshman: Jake Locker, QB, Washington
Game: Cal 31, Oregon 24
Upset: Stanford 24, USC 23
Best remaining game: Cal at Arizona State, Oct. 27
Coach who needs a fast finish: Mike Stoops, Arizona

SEC
Offensive player: Tim Tebow, Florida
Defensive player: Glenn Dorsey, T, LSU
Coach: Steve Spurrier, South Carolina
Freshman: Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia
Game: Georgia 26, Alabama 23 OT
Upset: Kentucky 43, LSU 37 3 OT
Best remaining game: Auburn at LSU, Oct. 20
Coach who needs a fast finish: Ed Orgeron, Ole Miss

This list appeared on the Yahoo Sports website via The Sporting News on Wednesday, October 17, 2007.

EvilVodka1 Wrote:

bitcruncher Wrote:As long as The BEast keeps winning their bowl games, screw the rest of the nation.

I hope The BEast gets to play the SEC and either the Big 10 or Pac 10 Champions in BCS games. WVU and USF will both get bids.

Just curious, what makes you think South Florida and West Virginia are going to get autobids?

IMO, Rutgers could still win the conference, especially if they win out

Watch the game tomorrow and see why I don't think Rutgers can win the conference.

The rest of the nation is hoping USF will fall on their face, like LSU and USC did. It won't happen. You Tiger fans will be watching the BCS National Championship game on TV, and not in person.

bitcruncher Wrote:

EvilVodka1 Wrote:

bitcruncher Wrote:As long as The BEast keeps winning their bowl games, screw the rest of the nation.

I hope The BEast gets to play the SEC and either the Big 10 or Pac 10 Champions in BCS games. WVU and USF will both get bids.

Just curious, what makes you think South Florida and West Virginia are going to get autobids?

IMO, Rutgers could still win the conference, especially if they win out

Watch the game tomorrow and see why I don't think Rutgers can win the conference.

The rest of the nation is hoping USF will fall on their face, like LSU and USC did. It won't happen. You Tiger fans will be watching the BCS National Championship game on TV, and not in person.

So why can't Rutgers win the conference? Looks like you sure don't know much about college football

So it looks like BE teams will continue to beat up on each other for the title. The BE has never had this many games to forward to at this point in the season so I think it will be a great ride.

I don't think you can discount Louisville by any means. If their defense shows up at all they will be hard to beat. Except for the fiasco against Syracuse their losses to Kentucky and Utah appear to be against quality teams.

WVU has talent at the top and could run the table IF they play their best in every game. Rutgers just showed that they aren't ready to give up the fight. A tough loss to the turtles but they look like they have bounced back. Cincinnati is a bit of an unknown but that have proved that they can win against the best. USF certainly remains in the hunt.

I think the question is whether Connecticut joins the mix and replaces Louisville in the title run. It is good to see that not too many in the BE would be all that surprised if that happened. Big game tonight.

We don't need to worry about what jerks like Hayes think about the BE. I think it is great that the BE at least this year is a conference where it appears to that win the title you need to "survive". With quality conferences that is what you need to do. Hopefully when the bowls work themselves out the BE will show up and put down some quality wins. With that statement the BE will show that maybe they are not a conference with one or two dominant teams but one with many very good teams.

Absolutely, its wide open at this point

Rutgers beat South Florida.

Connecticut beat Louisville.

Pittsburgh beat Cincinnati.

This conference is so deep.

Pitt has talented players but they are not a good team....looked like UC came into Heinz today expecting Pitt to lay down....that's the coaches fault. Way to go BK....

our year is over.

You know the old saying. You are never as good as you look after a win. You are never as bad as you look after a loss. You should never get too high or too low because, when all is said and done, everything will seem better after enough time has passed to let the events of the day fully resonate.