Aggieboy Wrote:I think it has to do with your history with the MWC and if you want to be the top dog in the WAC or the bottom feeder in the MWC.

BYU and UTAH control the MWC. You didn’t get in because they didn’t want you. They don’t want to get it handed to them by BOISE and they left many of you guys behind once before. Are you stupid enough to give them another try? OK, prostitute yourselves to the MT. Worst or dominate the WAC.

The boys that left the WAC were the dorks of the league anyway. Boise, Fresno, Hawaii, and Nevada have done all the damage in the resent years. You are the WAC. You have added two schools that can be very competitive with you because they will be able to recruit with you now. Show some loyalty. At least fake it.

JMHO

If Utah State was invited to the Mountain West tomorrow, do you honestly think the majority of the supporters would say, thanks but no thanks?

That's absolutely disingenuous. As for loyalty, I don't think that's a stone any Utah State fan can throw considering what happened between USU/NMSU/Sun Belt. Your school did what was best for your school and no one in their right mind can fault an administration for doing that.

If BSU, Nevada, UH, or anyone from the WAC got invited to the Mountain West, it would be considered a step up. Otherwise, it wouldn't be so coveted.

I think the WAC is a decent conference with schools full of potential and a good amount of history. Regardless of that fact, the schools still yearn to be in the Mountain West. It's just the way it is.

The teams that were left behind in the WAC were done so for many reasons. The 16 expansion was the most insane move ever, but then again hindsight it 20/20. The idea of the West Coast super conference has come and gone.

The Mountain West has 2 main goals, both of which are football oriented. To get an true shot at a BCS bowl and to get that contract for a championship game. They will take the 3 WAC schools that will help them to acheive that goal and all things (politics, location, alumni support, stadium capacity, attendance, academic, sponsorship... the list goes on) will be factored into that equation.

morton33 Wrote:

Aggieboy Wrote:I think it has to do with your history with the MWC and if you want to be the top dog in the WAC or the bottom feeder in the MWC. 

BYU and UTAH control the MWC.  You didn’t get in because they didn’t want you.  They don’t want to get it handed to them by BOISE and they left many of you guys behind once before.  Are you stupid enough to give them another try?  OK, prostitute yourselves to the MT. Worst or dominate the WAC. 

The boys that left the WAC were the dorks of the league anyway.  Boise, Fresno, Hawaii, and Nevada have done all the damage in the resent years.  You are the WAC.  You have added two schools that can be very competitive with you because they will be able to recruit with you now.  Show some loyalty.  At least fake it.

JMHO

If Utah State was invited to the Mountain West tomorrow, do you honestly think the majority of the supporters would say, thanks but no thanks?

That's absolutely disingenuous. As for loyalty, I don't think that's a stone any Utah State fan can throw considering what happened between USU/NMSU/Sun Belt. Your school did what was best for your school and no one in their right mind can fault an administration for doing that.

If BSU, Nevada, UH, or anyone from the WAC got invited to the Mountain West, it would be considered a step up. Otherwise, it wouldn't be so coveted.

I think the WAC is a decent conference with schools full of potential and a good amount of history. Regardless of that fact, the schools still yearn to be in the Mountain West. It's just the way it is.

The teams that were left behind in the WAC were done so for many reasons. The 16 expansion was the most insane move ever, but then again hindsight it 20/20. The idea of the West Coast super conference has come and gone.

The Mountain West has 2 main goals, both of which are football oriented. To get an true shot at a BCS bowl and to get that contract for a championship game. They will take the 3 WAC schools that will help them to acheive that goal and all things (politics, location, alumni support, stadium capacity, attendance, academic, sponsorship... the list goes on) will be factored into that equation.

You make a very good point; those who live in glass houses should not throw stones!

WAC schools would jump to the MWC and SBC schools would jump to CUSA; so goes life!

I do not live in a glass house any more than you do. I wanted to make a point about the core of the old WAC; they have been together for 40 years. That’s loyalty.

Having said that, if the PAC-10 came calling for any school they would go. But, if they said no, that would be loyalty. Many, people would say stupid. I guess I would like to see that someday.

The MWC does not want to grow any bigger, they were big once, remember the 16 team abortion? They went backwards to get ahead which means more money for the inner circle.

I just don’t see the loyalty from the New WAC schools. When this group stops talking about ways to leave and starts talking about ways to stay together thick or thin we will have something. We are not that far off. Give it some time. I love the new WAC. I believe if it stays together for 10 years it will compete very effectively nation wide.

Don’t be to surprised to see those bottom dwellers give the mighty a run for their money. That’s good. The better we are top to bottom the better we are as a conference. Again, grow the WAC, make things happen, have fun, and remember it is just a game. When it become life or then it’s the BCS.