I was told on VandalVenue that Idaho has the best Weight room in the Northwest. Is this True?
Is the Idaho weight room better than the weightrooms at Boise State, Oregon State, Oregon, Wazzu and Udub?

Does anyone know the Square foot area of the Idaho weightroom and any information about what type of equipment is in their weight oom and the cost of the the Idaho weightroom?

Posted by "VandalFan" on another board quite some time ago.

[QUOTE]Currently, they are finishing a Vandal Athletic Center on the East End of the Kibbie Dome. This will house offices, 7,000 sq ft of workout facility and a hall of fame. I have been privy to several alternatives for a new stadium and/or expanding the dome. The expansion options for the dome were:

1-adding a horseshoe on the west end, expanding seating to somewhere around 20K+. This option costs around $15 Million (this was a few years ago, maybe more $$ now)

2-completely expanding the dome, adding another concourse and additional bleacher seating above where the current seating is. Double the capacity to 32,000 and having a completely new roof. This option cost $45 million and while I thought it was very cool, it was not even looked at.

3-build a new outdoor stadium very close to the Kibbie Dome, being able to use the Kibbie Dome as an indoor practice facility and the possibility of switching some games indoors (nov and dec games). This option was thought to cost around $30million for 30,000 seating. There is a natural hill right by the kibbie dome, and building an outdoor stadium would be great there. It would create an atmosphere similar to that of Autzen or Martin Stadiums.

Option 3 makes the most sense to me. We can use the Dome in its current multi-use facility (it houses indoor track & field, mens & womens bball, concerts, Jazz Festival, graduation, etc.). Having an indoor facility such as that would be great because we wouldn't need a practice field, we would all ready have one.

Here is another option that was wildly thrown around as well. Building a dual stadium to house both WSU and UI home games. It would be 55K plus seating and be very adaptable to both schools. Cost split and logistics made this more of a dream than anything... [QUOTE]

Here's a link which provides some brief detail on the VAC, including some images.

<a href='http://idaho.theinsiders.com/2/243588.html' target='_blank'>http://idaho.theinsiders.com/2/243588.html</a>

[quote="SoCalValleyDog"] Posted by "VandalFan" on another board quite some time ago.

[QUOTE]Currently, they are finishing a Vandal Athletic Center on the East End of the Kibbie Dome. This will house offices, 7,000 sq ft of workout facility and a hall of fame. I have been privy to several alternatives for a new stadium and/or expanding the dome. The expansion options for the dome were:

1-adding a horseshoe on the west end, expanding seating to somewhere around 20K+. This option costs around $15 Million (this was a few years ago, maybe more $$ now)

2-completely expanding the dome, adding another concourse and additional bleacher seating above where the current seating is. Double the capacity to 32,000 and having a completely new roof. This option cost $45 million and while I thought it was very cool, it was not even looked at.

3-build a new outdoor stadium very close to the Kibbie Dome, being able to use the Kibbie Dome as an indoor practice facility and the possibility of switching some games indoors (nov and dec games). This option was thought to cost around $30million for 30,000 seating. There is a natural hill right by the kibbie dome, and building an outdoor stadium would be great there. It would create an atmosphere similar to that of Autzen or Martin Stadiums.

Option 3 makes the most sense to me. We can use the Dome in its current multi-use facility (it houses indoor track & field, mens & womens bball, concerts, Jazz Festival, graduation, etc.). Having an indoor facility such as that would be great because we wouldn't need a practice field, we would all ready have one.

Here is another option that was wildly thrown around as well. Building a dual stadium to house both WSU and UI home games. It would be 55K plus seating and be very adaptable to both schools. Cost split and logistics made this more of a dream than anything... [QUOTE] [/quote]
"Here is another option that was wildly thrown around as well. Building a dual stadium to house both WSU and UI home games. It would be 55K plus seating and be very adaptable to both schools. Cost split and logistics made this more of a dream than anything... "

This was the option that Idaho was kicking around in 1970 before they decided to go with an indoor dome!

I think the best option for Idaho is just to lease Martin Stadium for a few years till the whole D1A/D1AA issue gets sorted out and stabelized.

[quote="SoCalValleyDog"] Posted by "VandalFan" on another board quite some time ago.

[QUOTE]Currently, they are finishing a Vandal Athletic Center on the East End of the Kibbie Dome. This will house offices, 7,000 sq ft of workout facility and a hall of fame. I have been privy to several alternatives for a new stadium and/or expanding the dome. The expansion options for the dome were:

1-adding a horseshoe on the west end, expanding seating to somewhere around 20K+. This option costs around $15 Million (this was a few years ago, maybe more $$ now)

2-completely expanding the dome, adding another concourse and additional bleacher seating above where the current seating is. Double the capacity to 32,000 and having a completely new roof. This option cost $45 million and while I thought it was very cool, it was not even looked at.

3-build a new outdoor stadium very close to the Kibbie Dome, being able to use the Kibbie Dome as an indoor practice facility and the possibility of switching some games indoors (nov and dec games). This option was thought to cost around $30million for 30,000 seating. There is a natural hill right by the kibbie dome, and building an outdoor stadium would be great there. It would create an atmosphere similar to that of Autzen or Martin Stadiums.

Option 3 makes the most sense to me. We can use the Dome in its current multi-use facility (it houses indoor track & field, mens & womens bball, concerts, Jazz Festival, graduation, etc.). Having an indoor facility such as that would be great because we wouldn't need a practice field, we would all ready have one.

Here is another option that was wildly thrown around as well. Building a dual stadium to house both WSU and UI home games. It would be 55K plus seating and be very adaptable to both schools. Cost split and logistics made this more of a dream than anything... [QUOTE] [/quote]
Where is Option 4?

Build a New Stadium and Basketball Pavilion! Then use the kibbie dome as a practice facilty and for indoor track! They could probably do this for $60 million.

[quote="SoCalValleyDog"] Posted by "VandalFan" on another board quite some time ago.

[QUOTE]Currently, they are finishing a Vandal Athletic Center on the East End of the Kibbie Dome. This will house offices, 7,000 sq ft of workout facility and a hall of fame. I have been privy to several alternatives for a new stadium and/or expanding the dome. The expansion options for the dome were:

1-adding a horseshoe on the west end, expanding seating to somewhere around 20K+. This option costs around $15 Million (this was a few years ago, maybe more $$ now)

2-completely expanding the dome, adding another concourse and additional bleacher seating above where the current seating is. Double the capacity to 32,000 and having a completely new roof. This option cost $45 million and while I thought it was very cool, it was not even looked at.

3-build a new outdoor stadium very close to the Kibbie Dome, being able to use the Kibbie Dome as an indoor practice facility and the possibility of switching some games indoors (nov and dec games). This option was thought to cost around $30million for 30,000 seating. There is a natural hill right by the kibbie dome, and building an outdoor stadium would be great there. It would create an atmosphere similar to that of Autzen or Martin Stadiums.

Option 3 makes the most sense to me. We can use the Dome in its current multi-use facility (it houses indoor track & field, mens & womens bball, concerts, Jazz Festival, graduation, etc.). Having an indoor facility such as that would be great because we wouldn't need a practice field, we would all ready have one.

Here is another option that was wildly thrown around as well. Building a dual stadium to house both WSU and UI home games. It would be 55K plus seating and be very adaptable to both schools. Cost split and logistics made this more of a dream than anything... [QUOTE] [/quote]
Wouldn't it make more sense for Idaho to build a real football stadium instead of a VAC???
Does Idaho play basketball in their football dome???
Are they the only college to play football and basketball in the same place?

Dog Breath Wrote:Are they the only college to play football and basketball in the same place?

Syracuse, and I believe Northern Arizona, and Idaho State have football/basketball facilities.

arkstfan Wrote:Syracuse, and I believe Northern Arizona, and Idaho State have football/basketball facilities.

Idaho State plays basketball in Reed Gym and Football in Holt Arena. They aren't using a combine facility.

The VAC is much, much cheaper than a football stadium, and still after 5 years the vandals don't have the money to finish it. That's the main reason why a VAC and no stadium. Second reason is that the VAC is for the entire student body, not just the AD so there was consensus to build/invest in it.

That is incorrect. The VAC is for the exclusive use of the Athletic Department. The University built a brand new Student Recreation Center that is for the use of the entire student body. You probably have them confused.

My bad then. I thought our student REC center was unique along those lines.

But it's still over $5M in the hole for funding to complete it....and it's had over 5 years to get it done. There's no way on this green earth they'll ever fund a stadium given that performance.

I think Idaho can fund a stadium. In my opinion, there are two main reasons why the VAC is still not funded.

1. Very little marketing of the funding campaign, most Vandals I speak with have never heard a thing from the UI about donating to the project. Why? I have no idea but there has not been a major marketing campaign to get people to donate.

2. I think some people wonder why we are adding on to a stadium they know is not a IA facility. Not to say the weight room and additional facilities are not needed, It seems very odd!

AdaVandal Wrote:I think Idaho can fund a stadium. In my opinion, there are two main reasons why the VAC is still not funded.

1. Very little marketing of the funding campaign, most Vandals I speak with have never heard a thing from the UI about donating to the project. Why? I have no idea but there has not been a major marketing campaign to get people to donate.

2. I think some people wonder why we are adding on to a stadium they know is not a IA facility. Not to say the weight room and additional facilities are not needed, It seems very odd!

Is the VAC part of the Kibbie Dome?

And that adds to the mystique of the 'planning' that's gone on up there in the AD. If there will ever be a new stadium built, the VAC won't be attached to it and will no doubt be nice walk. Locker rooms, at a minimum, have to be attached, which would imply a duplication (cost, etc) when and if any new stadium is built.

The best thing would have been a standalone VAC out in a field somewhere, where the new stadium will be built. That would work as both motiviation in vandal land to raise money, and it would tell the WAC that you're serious and not putting a dress and lipstick on a pig.

Roughrider Wrote:And that adds to the mystique of the 'planning' that's gone on up there in the AD. If there will ever be a new stadium built, the VAC won't be attached to it and will no doubt be nice walk. Locker rooms, at a minimum, have to be attached, which would imply a duplication (cost, etc) when and if any new stadium is built.

The best thing would have been a standalone VAC out in a field somewhere, where the new stadium will be built. That would work as both motiviation in vandal land to raise money, and it would tell the WAC that you're serious and not putting a dress and lipstick on a pig.

Having the VAC incorporated with the Kibbie Dome and the other Athletic Offices makes sense. Why would we build the VAC in an open field when athletes - football, hoops, VB, track, etc. - need to train there right now? Having the VAC attached to the current offices makes sense in many ways. When we build a new outdoor stadium making additional space for suiting up, if needed at all, will be a nominal cost. Countless numbers of teams warm- and tape-up at one designated spot, then travel to play at the stadium.

Partially a tongue in cheek response but not 100%. IMO, anything added to the kibbie that is a long term asset to the AD, and not the general student population, is a mistake.

A state of the art weight room, with quality locker rooms is apparently the foundation for a ui facilities enhancement push and unfortunately I think it sends a message that the kibbie dome is here to stay as the football facility for the foreseeable future.

BigVandalFan Wrote:

Roughrider Wrote:And that adds to the mystique of the 'planning' that's gone on up there in the AD. If there will ever be a new stadium built, the VAC won't be attached to it and will no doubt be nice walk. Locker rooms, at a minimum, have to be attached, which would imply a duplication (cost, etc) when and if any new stadium is built.

The best thing would have been a standalone VAC out in a field somewhere, where the new stadium will be built. That would work as both motiviation in vandal land to raise money, and it would tell the WAC that you're serious and not putting a dress and lipstick on a pig.

Having the VAC incorporated with the Kibbie Dome and the other Athletic Offices makes sense. Why would we build the VAC in an open field when athletes - football, hoops, VB, track, etc. - need to train there right now? Having the VAC attached to the current offices makes sense in many ways. When we build a new outdoor stadium making additional space for suiting up, if needed at all, will be a nominal cost. Countless numbers of teams warm- and tape-up at one designated spot, then travel to play at the stadium.

"Countless numbers of teams warm- and tape-up at one designated spot, then travel to play at the stadium."

Where???

I do not think there are very many D1A Stadiums that have locker rooms in another location.

Maybe there are a lot of Division III or Division II teams that have offsite locker rooms.

broncobob Wrote:

BigVandalFan Wrote:

Roughrider Wrote:And that adds to the mystique of the 'planning' that's gone on up there in the AD. If there will ever be a new stadium built, the VAC won't be attached to it and will no doubt be nice walk. Locker rooms, at a minimum, have to be attached, which would imply a duplication (cost, etc) when and if any new stadium is built.

The best thing would have been a standalone VAC out in a field somewhere, where the new stadium will be built. That would work as both motiviation in vandal land to raise money, and it would tell the WAC that you're serious and not putting a dress and lipstick on a pig.

Having the VAC incorporated with the Kibbie Dome and the other Athletic Offices makes sense. Why would we build the VAC in an open field when athletes - football, hoops, VB, track, etc. - need to train there right now? Having the VAC attached to the current offices makes sense in many ways. When we build a new outdoor stadium making additional space for suiting up, if needed at all, will be a nominal cost. Countless numbers of teams warm- and tape-up at one designated spot, then travel to play at the stadium.

"Countless numbers of teams warm- and tape-up at one designated spot, then travel to play at the stadium."

Where???

I do not think there are very many D1A Stadiums that have locker rooms in another location.

Maybe there are a lot of Division III or Division II teams that have offsite locker rooms.

WSU & UCLA first come to mind, plus every team that plays off campus. Do you think a school would build their primary training facility off site, then ship the hoop, VB, track teams, et. al, to the statium to work out? When the new stadium is built, the athletic department isn't going to move anywhere. The dome won't be the place we play on Saturday's forever, but it's certainly there to stay.

BigVandalFan Wrote:

broncobob Wrote:

BigVandalFan Wrote:

Roughrider Wrote:And that adds to the mystique of the 'planning' that's gone on up there in the AD. If there will ever be a new stadium built, the VAC won't be attached to it and will no doubt be nice walk. Locker rooms, at a minimum, have to be attached, which would imply a duplication (cost, etc) when and if any new stadium is built.

The best thing would have been a standalone VAC out in a field somewhere, where the new stadium will be built. That would work as both motiviation in vandal land to raise money, and it would tell the WAC that you're serious and not putting a dress and lipstick on a pig.

Having the VAC incorporated with the Kibbie Dome and the other Athletic Offices makes sense. Why would we build the VAC in an open field when athletes - football, hoops, VB, track, etc. - need to train there right now? Having the VAC attached to the current offices makes sense in many ways. When we build a new outdoor stadium making additional space for suiting up, if needed at all, will be a nominal cost. Countless numbers of teams warm- and tape-up at one designated spot, then travel to play at the stadium.

"Countless numbers of teams warm- and tape-up at one designated spot, then travel to play at the stadium."

Where???

I do not think there are very many D1A Stadiums that have locker rooms in another location.

Maybe there are a lot of Division III or Division II teams that have offsite locker rooms.

WSU & UCLA first come to mind, plus every team that plays off campus. Do you think a school would build their primary training facility off site, then ship the hoop, VB, track teams, et. al, to the statium to work out? When the new stadium is built, the athletic department isn't going to move anywhere. The dome won't be the place we play on Saturday's forever, but it's certainly there to stay.

So, when will Idaho build this often talked about stadium. What is the plan?
I seldom get a chance to converse with Idaho fans.
Why do they play in a dome?
Green Bay does not play in a dome. Is it really that cold in Idaho?

Dog Breath Wrote:

BigVandalFan Wrote:

broncobob Wrote:

BigVandalFan Wrote:

Roughrider Wrote:And that adds to the mystique of the 'planning' that's gone on up there in the AD. If there will ever be a new stadium built, the VAC won't be attached to it and will no doubt be nice walk. Locker rooms, at a minimum, have to be attached, which would imply a duplication (cost, etc) when and if any new stadium is built.

The best thing would have been a standalone VAC out in a field somewhere, where the new stadium will be built. That would work as both motiviation in vandal land to raise money, and it would tell the WAC that you're serious and not putting a dress and lipstick on a pig.

Having the VAC incorporated with the Kibbie Dome and the other Athletic Offices makes sense. Why would we build the VAC in an open field when athletes - football, hoops, VB, track, etc. - need to train there right now? Having the VAC attached to the current offices makes sense in many ways. When we build a new outdoor stadium making additional space for suiting up, if needed at all, will be a nominal cost. Countless numbers of teams warm- and tape-up at one designated spot, then travel to play at the stadium.

"Countless numbers of teams warm- and tape-up at one designated spot, then travel to play at the stadium."

Where???

I do not think there are very many D1A Stadiums that have locker rooms in another location.

Maybe there are a lot of Division III or Division II teams that have offsite locker rooms.

WSU & UCLA first come to mind, plus every team that plays off campus. Do you think a school would build their primary training facility off site, then ship the hoop, VB, track teams, et. al, to the statium to work out? When the new stadium is built, the athletic department isn't going to move anywhere. The dome won't be the place we play on Saturday's forever, but it's certainly there to stay.

So, when will Idaho build this often talked about stadium. What is the plan?
I seldom get a chance to converse with Idaho fans.
Why do they play in a dome?
Green Bay does not play in a dome. Is it really that cold in Idaho?

Good question. We won't build a stadium soon enough, far as I'm concerned. The dome was created as a multi-pupose facility, not as a break from the cold Saturday's. The Kibbie Dome also houses indoor track meets, hoops, performing arts, etc.