Hawaii has TWO 1-aa teams on their schedule this year, in addition to the terrible WAC schedule filled with the likes of Idaho, La Tech, San Jose State and Utah State. I'm sorry, but how many teams would go undefeated with their schedule and the only "tests" being Washington and Boise State? Boise isn't the same team as last year - they're good, but not great. Washington already beat them. And Washington, while improving, is certainly not a huge test, not even Top 25 material. They currently sit at 2-3, and 0-2 in the Pac 10. Beating them - and a good but not great Boise team - gets you to the BCS? Sign WVU up for that deal, please!!

Nearly any team in the top half of ANY BCS league would have a very legit shot of going undefeated with that schedule, and I would think several MWC and a few CUSA teams would have a good shot as well.

Now, maybe if Hawaii was blowing people away I could see it.. But they needed miracles essentially to beat San Jose State and La Tech, 2 of the worst teams in the 1-A!!! That, combined with their poor schedule, should eliminate them from the Top 25, let alone BCS consideration.

SJSU won their bowl game last year and had 9 wins.

Make sure you know what you are talking about before you say something.

Forget UCONN beating Hawai'i...if you UCONN could go to San Jose and beat the Spartans I'd be surprised.

With Hawaii down in the third quarter, I ordered a Hawaiian Pizza and they pulled out a comeback.



Seriously though I think between Fresno, Boise, Nevada, and Washington they will probably be bitten somewhere along the line.

As a fan of a bowl alliance conference (MAC) I'm rooting for Hawaii because that equals money for my school. My hopes are not too high at this point.

BCS are staying away this because of that off. where them B-10 schools that play at Haw. If nobody wants to play them & they go undeafted they deserve BCS bid.

army56mike Wrote:I think Hawaii deserves all that they are getting. They are playing the cards they were dealt. If they go undefeated, I hope they get a BCS slot. I think they deserve to be a Top 25 team. They beat a pretty decent team last night. San Jose St. was not a WAC bottom feeder. They went to a bowl game last year. I don't know if they won or not.

And the only reason they were dealt those cards was because of their reputation for fighting and biased officials. Two Division I-AA teams? If they wanted to play a tough schedule, why don't THEY travel to other teams places. That's what I find amazing. People always say "poor Hawaii, no one wants to go there". Nothing is stopping Hawaii from occasionally going on the road playing one or two decent teams.

stpnum4 Wrote:SJSU won their bowl game last year and had 9 wins.

Make sure you know what you are talking about before you say something.

Forget UCONN beating Hawai'i...if you UCONN could go to San Jose and beat the Spartans I'd be surprised.

Last year has nothing to do with this year. And this year San Jose State is terrible and Connecticut would destroy them. And they would destroy them AT San Jose. I have no doubt that Connecticut could beat San Jose State at their place. San Jose State is 3-4 this year. As much as you love Hawaii, I think they're overrated and a thug program with a punk coach. Classy guy, saying that they should have beaten San Jose State by 60 extra points or whatever. Excuses, excuses.

templefootballfan Wrote:BCS are staying away this because of that off. where them B-10 schools that play at Haw. If nobody wants to play them & they go undeafted they deserve BCS bid.

Nothing is stopping Hawaii from giving a home-and-home and going on the road and playing those teams.

Haw did offer to come mainland. I believe Louv & Mich were 2 that said no thanks.

stpnum4 Wrote:SJSU won their bowl game last year and had 9 wins.

Make sure you know what you are talking about before you say something.

Forget UCONN beating Hawai'i...if you UCONN could go to San Jose and beat the Spartans I'd be surprised.

I'm well aware of San Jose State and their big bowl victory over a .500 team from the MWC last year. Unfortunately this year, they have played 3 BCS teams and were blown out by all 3. They barely beat Idaho and winless Utah State. They suck, and so does Hawaii.

Well one thing is true about all this...Hawai'i definately brings a passionate response out of people...whether it be positive or negative.

I think UH making a BCS bowl if they go undefeated would be good for the game. I for one am sick of seeing the same old teams play in these big games.

I don't even care if people don't think they deserve it...there are a bunch of teams that don't deserve to even be in the top 25 but they are and the good 'ole boys of traditional college football work hard to keep 'em there.

Hawaii is a thug school, and I doubt they go undefeated. Boise State and/or Washington will get them. The best part is if they go undefeated and get locked out of the BCS. That would be hilarious!

The WAC is not as bad as people are making it out to be. Boise State won a BCS bowl last year. Hawaii, Nevada, and San Jose State all went to bowls last season. Fresno State is usually very good, as well, but had an off-year last season and should be back up to par now.

The bottom four - New Mexico State, Utah State, Idaho, and Louisiana Tech - are nothing to write home about. The first three were stuck in the Sun Belt until two years ago and their programs are still trying to recover from that. Louisiana Tech is geographically out of place.

You can fault Hawaii for having two Division I-FCS teams on their schedule but lets not forget that Texas Tech did the same thing two years ago. How does anyone know that Hawaii did not get screwed by teams pulling out of contracts late? That does happen quite a lot lately.

I think some people are letting their personal opinion of Hawaii, because of past fights and referee issues, cloud their judgement on anything related to the team. They are good and, if they go undefeated, will deserve to be in a BCS bowl. Those are the rules everyone follows.

Great post Krapp...I agree with what you said.

Mich St pulled out of a contract to play at UH this year...it's not their fault no one wants to play them this year with Colt but everyone wants a shot at them next year once Colt and the WR's graduate.

Dude, I don't even care anymore. Connecticut would smoke San Jose State and probably could beat Hawaii. Hawaii is a fraud with a weak schedule and a thug program. They'll get exposed.

UCONN hasn't played anyone yet and is about to get exposed by Virginia and BE conference play (especially the Cincinnati) game next month. Get serious.

Krocker Krapp Wrote:I think some people are letting their personal opinion of Hawaii, because of past fights and referee issues, cloud their judgement on anything related to the team. They are good and, if they go undefeated, will deserve to be in a BCS bowl. Those are the rules everyone follows.

I have no personal opinion of Hawaii. I usually cheer for non-BCS teams (except when they play the BE.)

But if Hawaii gets a BCS bid it would be a travesty.

Let's look at who they've beaten:

Northern Colorado (0-7), 63 to 6
UNC is a relatively new 1-AA program who, after their game against Hawaii, was blanked 31-0 by a Division II school. They were also blanked by a 2-4 Weber State squad and were blown out by limited-scholarship San Diego.

Louisiana Tech (2-4), 45 to 44
Hawaii was able to hang on for the win as La Tech went for 2 in OT and failed to get it. La Tech's only prior win before today's 1-point victory over NMSU (a team that Boise blanked 58-0 last week) was over 1-AA newcomer Central Arkansas. The average margin of victory for the other 3 teams to beat La Tech? 22. Hawaii held on by 1 point.

UNLV (2-5), 49 to 14
Only Hawaii can say their best win thus far is against a 2-5 UNLV team. UNLV was competitive against BYU and Wisconsin, and beat Utah.

Charleston Southern (3-3), 66 to 10
Hawaii isn't even playing GOOD 1-AA squads. The only wins for Chas Southern? D-II Johnson C. Smith and North Greenville, and Savannah State - probably the worst team in all 1-AA.

Idaho (1-7), 48 to 20
Hawaii pounded the Vandals, just like everyone else who has played them - apart from 1-AA Cal Poly, Idaho's only win. Idaho even lost to Northern Illinois - the ONLY win for the Huskies, who have been beaten by Temple and 1-AA Southern Illinois.

Utah State (0-6), 52 to 37
Hawaii allows 37 points to a terrible, winless Utah State squad. The last time the Aggies scored so many points? Back in 2003 against MTSU. The average points scored by USU in their other 5 losses? 15.

San Jose State (3-4), 42 to 35
Hawaii had to storm back and sneak out a win in OT against a Spartan team that lost to the 3 BCS teams they played by an average score of 39 to 6. The 3 wins for SJSU? 1-AA Cal Davis, winless Utah State, and the above-mentioned Vandals. Yet they almost took down Hawaii.

The combined record of Hawaii's opposition? 11-36

Who do they have coming up?

New Mexico State (3-4)
NMSU and Hawaii have something in common - they've both beaten up on two 1-AA schools (in NMSU's case it was SE Louisiana and a 3-point win over Arkansas-Pine Bluff. eeeesh.) They do have a win over UTEP.

Nevada (2-3)
The Wolfpack have beaten 1-AA Nichols State, and UNLV. They were pounded by Nebraska, and lost to Northwestern and Fresno.

Fresno State (4-2)
The Bulldogs 4 wins? Idaho, La Tech, Nevada (2-3), and 1-AA Sacramento State. They lost to Texas A&M (the school that's been pounded by Miami and Texas Tech), and were torn apart by Oregon.

Boise State (4-1)
Would obviously be a nice win, but Washington also beat the Broncos. BSU's 4 wins? New Mexico State, 1-AA Weber State, Wyoming (nice, but New Mexico also beat them) and Southern Miss (nice, but Rice also beat them). It would be a solid win, but one that is worthy of propelling a team into a BCS bowl? I think not.

Washington (2-3, about to be 2-4)
Would obviously be a nice win, but by the time the game rolls around the Huskies might be looking at a 3-10 or a 4-9 record, looking at their remaining schedule.

That's it! If that's the resume for a multi-million dollar BCS bowl berth, then I think you'll have alot of teams changing their scheduling philosophy and taking the "Hawaii route." The top 6 BE teams would all have an excellent shot at going undefeated with that schedule, and probably about 50 to 60 other teams as well. I have nothing against Hawaii, and sure Boise pulled off a win for the ages last year against Oklahoma. But last year's Boise team and this year's Hawaii team are not even close.