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Pitino Rips Big East Scheduling
10-10-2007 08:51 AM
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This is going to be a problem as long as ESPN is allowed to dictate the Big East basketball schedule. What they did with the women's basketball schedule in the first two years after realignment was perfect. Each team played every other team once, plus a mirror opponent a second time, for a 16 game schedule. The men should have done this as well but, instead, they came up with a goofy unbalanced schedule dictated by what ESPN thought would draw more TV viewers.

The last time I looked, we were the Big East Conference, not the Made For ESPN Wet Dreams Conference. Now that we have prematurely gone to an 18 game schedule, as well, there is no way to fix this problem within the current structure of the league. If we ever expand to 18 teams, adding one on the football side and one on the basketball side, there would be no choice but to play a single round robin plus one mirror game format. That takes it out of the hands of ESPN.
10-10-2007 02:10 PM
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doesn't that all change starting next year with the new tv deal?
10-10-2007 03:54 PM
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No. The Big East adopted an 18 game schedule this year to get a head start on handling how things will be when the new TV deal kicks in next winter. My hunch is that basketball scheduling will get even worse, and more coaches will start to publicly echo Rick Pitino's sentiments, over the next few seasons.
10-10-2007 04:05 PM
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That was at a fun tip-off luncheon and Pitino was saying that half tongue-in-cheek; how serious do you think he was with these comments:


"The way it was supposed to be done is you play one team in the top tier, the top four or five, twice, then the second tier you play another team twice and the third tier you play a team twice. So I think they got their tiers mixed up. There was definitely a Kentucky graduate doing that schedule".

"The Big East killed us this year with our schedule. It's not fair, it's not objective. These guys are my friends, or ex-friends. They're Italian. I WILL get revenge. It's just an unfortunate situation, but we'll get through it."
10-10-2007 06:15 PM
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Props to UofL for their nonconference schedule...especially the UNLV game. Should be interesting.
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If they show up on the court, though, and take care of business they'll be a top 1 or 2 seed.
10-11-2007 10:10 AM
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stpnum4 Wrote:Props to UofL for their nonconference schedule...especially the UNLV game. Should be interesting.

Their non-conference schedule is a definite step up from what it was a couple of years ago. It was flat out terrible a couple of years ago.
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UofL, G town, SYR, UCONN are all national BB powers. I bet Seton Hall, USF and St. Johns have a good schedule because they are not BB money schools. UofL it a top tier BB school and people want to see them play the best- even twice.
What does Pitino want to do play St. Johns and Seton Hall each five times.

Out top BB teams are always going to have a hard road. If they survive, luckly the NCAA's have a BB playoff and they can show just how good they really are.
10-12-2007 09:34 AM
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The point is that Louisville could be at a disadvantage when it comes to the Big East title race due to having to play the projected best teams in the league extra times. Another school, meanwhile, could win the title or get a better tournament seed due to a weaker schedule.

The conference should be scheduling fairly for every team. What they have been doing with the women's schedule, face the other 15 teams once and one mirror opponent a second time, is the best way to schedule basketball in a league this large. They have lost their minds.
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Krocker Krapp Wrote:The point is that Louisville could be at a disadvantage when it comes to the Big East title race due to having to play the projected best teams in the league extra times. Another school, meanwhile, could win the title or get a better tournament seed due to a weaker schedule.

This actually happened for BC in their last year in the league. They had the easiest regular season record, because they either did not play the heavywieghts in the league or they only played them once, while everyone else, Syracuse, Uconn, Nova, G town all had to play each other twice.
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Krocker Krapp Wrote:The point is that Louisville could be at a disadvantage when it comes to the Big East title race due to having to play the projected best teams in the league extra times. Another school, meanwhile, could win the title or get a better tournament seed due to a weaker schedule.
This actually happened for BC in their last year in the league. They had the easiest regular season record, because they either did not play the heavywieghts in the league or they only played them once, while everyone else, Syracuse, Uconn, Nova, G town all had to play each other twice.
That is exactly the kind of thing I am talking about. It is completely unfair. No college conference should be more concerned about what television audiences want to see than doing what is the right thing for their teams and student-athletes.

This is not the NBA. If money is the only thing that matters, well, the NBA is the place for people who feel this way. These are universities and these are young student-athletes. Competition and schedules should be fair for everyone involved.
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Orange Eagles Wrote:If they show up on the court, though, and take care of business they'll be a top 1 or 2 seed.
We lost two top assistant coaches who took head coaching jobs, and you never know when the injury bug will strike.....

....but other then that, we are simply loaded; a perfect team for Pitino to mold for March.

Even the cautious, long-time, very knowledgeable Card fans agree that this team will make a serious run at the National Championship.
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Split into divisions with rotating cross over games - N/S, E/W, FB/ BB -who cares. Establish rivalries if you can. Give teams home and homes during the season. This made for ESPN TV method looks, smells and stinks like a Trained Goose "the money will solve everything ploy" to prevent a BE split in 2010 and protect the Northeast BB schools (ie Providence). 03-puke It sounds and looks like he is just piss'n more people off. Split in 2010 or Dump the Goose and Grow!!!! 04-jawdrop04-rock05-stirthepot04-cheers
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10-13-2007 08:10 AM
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No divisions. That would still be unbalanced. You never know if one division will be stronger than the other. This is a college athletic conference. It is not the NBA. No need for complicated schemes. It should be simple. This is not rocket science. Every team plays each other once and their biggest rival a second time. That is what the women did for the last two years and it worked out perectly. Screw television ratings. People need to learn to watch what the Big East tells them to watch. It is time to remember that this is about the student-athletes and not totally about the almighty dollar.
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