Did anyone notice the College Football News announced their pre-season 2004 All-WAC team?

OFFENSE (OL is regardless of position)
QB - Timmy Chang, Sr. Hawaii
RB - Chance Kretschmer, Sr. Nevada
RB - Ryan Moats, Jr. Louisiana Tech
WR - T.J. Acree, Sr. Boise State
WR - Chad Owens, Sr. Hawaii
TE - Garrett Mills, Jr. Tulsa
OL - Daryn Colledge, Jr. Boise State
OL - Harvey Dahl, Sr. Nevada
OL - Aaron Lips, Jr. Louisiana Tech
OL - Logan Mankins, Sr. Fresno State
OL - Samson Satele, Soph. Hawaii
PK - Brett Visintainer, Sr. Fresno State
KR - Chris Carr, Sr. Boise State

WAC Preseason Offensive Player of the Year
RB Ryan Moats, Jr. Louisiana Tech
Moats turned into one of the WAC's biggest surprises last year rushing for 1,300 yards and ten touchdowns while catching 27 passes for 251 yards and a touchdown. He's a quick back who more than proved he could handle the workload and should be in for an even bigger season with a huge, experienced line in front of him.

WAC Preseason Defensive Player of the Year
SS James Sanders, Sr. Fresno State
Sanders led the team in tackles last season turning in an All-WAC performance with 93 tackles, 8.5 tackles for loss, two sacks and two interceptions last year. He also blocked two kicks. He is one of the biggest hitting defensive backs in college football.

DEFENSE (DL is regardless of position)
DL - Allan Adami, Sr. SMU
DL - Brian Morris, Sr. Fresno State
DL - Julius Roberts, Sr. Boise State
DL - John Syptak, Jr. Rice
LB - Andy Avalos, Sr. Boise State
LB - Ikaika Curnan, Jr. Hawaii
LB - Robert Rodriguez, Sr. UTEP
DB - Kedrick Alexander, Jr. Tulsa
DB - Abraham Elimimian, Sr. Hawaii
DB - James Sanders, Jr. Fresno State
DB - Gabe Franklin, Sr. Boise State
P - Jared Scruggs, Soph. Rice
PR - Jermaine Landrum, Sr. Tulsa

They also listed the Top 30 Players in the W.A.C. this season, regardless of position. Note that Boise State's Andy Avalos is # 2 on that list, and that Boise State and Hawaii lead this list with five players each:

Top 30 Players Regardless of Position
1. SS James Sanders, Jr. Fresno State
2. LB Andy Avalos, Sr. Boise State
3. RB Ryan Moats, Jr. Louisiana Tech
4. CB Abraham Elimimian, Sr. Hawaii
5. RB Chance Kretschmer, Sr. Nevada
6. TE Garrett Mills, Jr. Tulsa
7. QB Timmy Chang, Sr. Hawaii
8. DT Allan Adami, Sr. SMU
9. QB James Kilian, Sr. Tulsa
10. RB Thomas Lott, Jr. Rice
11. S Kedrick Alexander, Jr. Tulsa
12. OG Aaron Lips, Jr. Louisiana Tech
13. CB Gabe Franklin, Sr. Boise State
14. LB Robert Rodriguez, Sr. UTEP
15. RB Howard Jackson, Sr. UTEP
16. LB Ikaika Curnan, Jr. Hawaii
17. DE Julius Roberts, Sr. Boise State
18. WR Chad Owens, Sr. Hawaii
19. RB Dwayne Wright, Jr. Fresno State
20. OT Daryn Colledge, Jr. Boise State
21. LB D.D. Lee, Sr. SMU
22. OG Samson Satele, Soph. Hawaii
23. FS Keone Kauo, Sr. Nevada
24. OG Harvey Dahl, Sr. Nevada
25. S Terry Holley, Sr. Rice
26. OT Logan Mankins, Sr. Fresno State
27. DE Brian Morris, Sr. Fresno State
28. S Eric Wilson, Jr. San Jose State
29. OT Adrian Gonzalez, Sr. Louisiana Tech
30. LB Korey Hall, Soph. Boise State


They also listed the top players at a number of positions in the WAC (note that Boise State has TWO of the Top Five linebackers in all of the WAC in Andy Avalos and Korey Hall, as well as two of the top five kickers in the entire WAC in Tyler Jones and Kyle Stringer)

Top Quarterbacks
1. Timmy Chang, Hawaii
2. James Kilian, Tulsa
3. Paul Pinegar, Fresno
4. Greg Henderson, Rice
5. Andy Heiser, Nevada

Top Receivers
1. Chad Owens, Hawaii
2. T.J. Acree, Boise State
3. Tramissian Davis, LT
4. Marcus Battle, Rice
5. Britton Komine, Hawaii

Top Def. Linemen
1. Allan Adami, SMU
2. Julius Roberts, Boise State
3. Brian Morris, Fresno St
4. John Syptak, Rice
5. Garrett McIntyre, FSU

Top Defensive Backs
1. James Sanders, Fresno
2. Abe. Elimimian, Hawaii
3. Ked. Alexander, Tulsa
4. Gabe Franklin, Boise State
5. Keone Kauo, Nevada

Top Running Backs
1. Ryan Moats, La Tech
2. C. Kretschmer, Nevada
3. Thomas Lott, Rice
4. Howard Jackson, UTEP
5. Dwayne Wright, Fresno

Top Off. Linemen
1. Aaron Lips, La Tech
2. Daryn Colledge, Boise State
3. Samson Satele, Hawaii
4. Harvey Dahl, Nevada
5. Logan Mankins, Fresno

Top Linebackers
1. Andy Avalos, Boise State
2. Rob. Rodriguez, UTEP
3. Ikaika Curnan, Hawaii
4. D. D. Lee, SMU
5. Korey Hall, Boise State

Top Kickers
1. P Jared Scruggs, Rice
2. P B. Benekos, UTEP
3. PK B. Visintainer, FSU
4. PK Tyler Jones, Boise State
5. P Kyle Stringer, Boise State

I'd love to look at the 'list' after the season.

Also interesting to note that the FPOTY LB from Tulsa isn't listed, yet Korey Hall is in the top5 LB's. Now, wait till they get a look at Hunter and Bean!

I hadn't noticed that, but you are right. No mention of Tulsa's Freshman linebacker, Nick Bunting. :laugh:

As to waiting until after the season is over to see what their All-WAC team is, it will almost certainly be drastically different in some spots. For instance if Tim Volk is as good as some say he is I would look for him to be All-WAC this year as a Sophomore. And Cam Hall should have a breakout year this year since he will now be playing almost every down this season. He has excelled and stood out in the past playing only part time.

Wow!! Pro Wrestling, the Yankees, the Lakers, and Kerry!!! I don't think i'd get along too well with this dude.

you pegged that dude as a 'wrestler'? I figured it was the poster's fantasy lover

Alexander is not and will not be at TU this fall. CFN isn't noted for their blazing accuracy in much of anything that is not BCS related. My guess-- someone wrote this without even catching more than a milli-glance an 90% of the players listed.

renopack Wrote:Wow!! Pro Wrestling, the Yankees, the Lakers, and Kerry!!! I don't think i'd get along too well with this dude.

The post that you replied to was removed due to political content. No political advertising on this board, please!

broncobob Wrote:

renopack Wrote:Wow!! Pro Wrestling, the Yankees, the Lakers, and Kerry!!!  I don't think i'd get along too well with this dude.

The post that you replied to was removed due to political content. No political advertising on this board, please!

Very good call to keep the political advertisment/talk absent from this board Bob!

Roughrider Wrote:you pegged that dude as a 'wrestler'? I figured it was the poster's fantasy lover

Oops...I guess I shouldn't have known that was a wrestler. How embarassing!! My nephew watches the stuff all the time so i have to sit through it every once in a while.

i thought he was removed because he was a blithering idiot.

though i'm still here...

I'm not a wrestler you idiot, I'm a fan, and as long as these posts count on my post count, I don't care if you delete them!

Go Wolverines! Wrote:I'm not a wrestler you idiot, I'm a fan, and as long as these posts count on my post count, I don't care if you delete them!

LOL! Yeah we thought you were a wrestler.
Seriously though. Michigan Football, Yankee baseball, Laker basketball?

I'm going to guess that these teams also rank among your favorites:
New England Patriots
Canada's Curling Team
China's female swim team
Ivan Drago

Ya, right, I hate the Patriots, never even watched curling and don't give a crap about the rest of them.

renopack Wrote:Wow!! Pro Wrestling, the Yankees, the Lakers, and Kerry!!! I don't think i'd get along too well with this dude.

Sounds as if you and I think alike, Renopack. I never saw this tool's post (before it was deleted) but Pro Wrestling is for people who have no brains whatsoever. I am a fan of REAL wrestling, i.e., collegiate and high school wrestling, but I NEVER watch the crap that is incorrectly labeled as "Pro Wrestling". It is just T.V. for morons (much like so-called "Reality" T.V.).

And only a simp would be a fan of both the Yankees and the Lakers. That makes about as much sense as being a fan of I.B.M. or Microsoft. Can you say "front-runner"?

As to John Kerry, well, I don't wish to get too "political" here, but suffice it to say I think only a simp would be a fan of him as well.