http://media.www.cm-life.com/media/stora...age3.shtml

Well, he got quoted today in a story about coaches.

Surprized the reporter could understand him.

I mean, his voice has gotta be muffled coming from under Butch's desk.

:kneelsucka:

Wow...Tom Meh "beatwestern:" again, erased what I wrote, luckily I saved what I wrote knowing he would again, cover his A$$. This is what I wrote:

"What a joke. It’s funny how the article left out the TRUTH regarding CENSORSHIP here on scout. It’s pretty pathetic how much Tom Mehl “beatwestern” is covering not only his own a$$ here, however covering BJ’s a$$ as well. This situation is highly unethical and makes me not want to be affiliated with this site. The bottom line is Tom Mehl, “Site Administrator” engages in unethical practices here and makes things look peachy, when all they do is cover-up the truth.

You want to know what’s detrimental? Telling a recruit a lie and then after he’s signed his letter of intent, discovers he made a bad choice because some like BJ or Tom Mehl painted a picture that was completely false. This is clearly people looking out for the wrong interests. Instead of looking out for the athlete, they look out for their own a$$. This is highly UNETHICAL.

Did you notice, there wasn’t an article about Burnam, who Tom Mehl “beatwestern” said should play this week. It’s funny, how they swept that one under the rug too. They are really putting in some overtime to make BJ look good.

I’m sure this thread, will be erased or moved, like the others. Absolutely unethical."

looks like your were boo-tch slapped by the number one or number two boo-tch bee-tch yet again. Time for you to do a bit of

I'm shocked no one has commented on the story there on the CM-Life page.

BarnardHall211 Wrote:I'm shocked no one has commented on the story there on the CM-Life page.

Even if they did, it would probably be erased as well. The article was to gain interest in the site, because there have been so many that left. I mean, even Mikreochip, a regular decided to say goodbye and chippewapride decided to hang the cleats.

This is sad, but it's not the fans who are ruining that site...it's Tom Mehl, BJ, etc.

I do appreciate this site, much, much more as it gives us a forum to speak the TRUTH.

ChipFB Wrote:I do appreciate this site, much, much more as it gives us a forum to speak the TRUTH.

Apparently, Tom Mehl (scout.com's site administrator "beatwestern") and BJ CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

I dont know why I continue to be shocked by the craziness of all of this. Part of me cant blame the coaches for taking some offense to the comments we all make on a daily basis, and part of me is just dumbfounded that they stop by message boards to judge their self worth.

I think that it deffinately is true that negativity on message boards can affect recruiting in a bad way. These boards are the only possible "unbiased" interaction potential recruits could have with the students and fans of the university in order guage their future program from the eyes of others, and not just the coaching staff and recruiters.

When the coaches start meddling with the content, isnt that the same if not worse than contacting them via text message or otherwise? If it is, CMU could be up for some groundbreaking new types of NCAA recruiting violations, no?

Not that any of us would ever want to steer a good recruit away from CMU by having them read about coaching tirades, "fireman drills" etc - but where else can we the concerned fans discuss these things?

CMU04 Wrote:I dont know why I continue to be shocked by the craziness of all of this. Part of me cant blame the coaches for taking some offense to the comments we all make on a daily basis, and part of me is just dumbfounded that they stop by message boards to judge their self worth.

I think that it deffinately is true that negativity on message boards can affect recruiting in a bad way. These boards are the only possible "unbiased" interaction potential recruits could have with the students and fans of the university in order guage their future program from the eyes of others, and not just the coaching staff and recruiters.

When the coaches start meddling with the content, isnt that the same if not worse than contacting them via text message or otherwise? If it is, CMU could be up for some groundbreaking new types of NCAA recruiting violations, no?

Not that any of us would ever want to steer a good recruit away from CMU by having them read about coaching tirades, "fireman drills" etc - but where else can we the concerned fans discuss these things?

Very good point 04. However, another point is, how can a handful of fans, such as us, have a significance on a team. Wow...this is the first I've ever heard of or the possiblity of around 10 fans having a significance on a teams performance. It's pretty sad, however if we have more control of this team than BJ, that's a shame and clearly BJ doesn't have a handle on this team.

News Flash...how long have sports been in America? This wouldn't be the 1st time coaches get criticized. Now coaches have to bully posters around to clean up their act? Unethical...and they should be spending more time coaching then worrying about their REPUTATION. But this all makes sense now, because BJ didn't want the team to ruin his 22-3 record at West Virginia and it's obvious this criticism is too much for his EGO.

Isn't TM/BW the same guy who shows up at Cousins Subs, and orders in French to impress others in line?

Here was another thread completely erased:

Dear current members and/or future scout.com (Chippewas Insider),

I’m a paying member here and if you can’t voice your opinion in a professional manner, here, then why visit? This site has become a “Damage Control” site to save (which is not much) the reputation for Butch Jones.

We as fans have a right to an opinion and write about the coach based on his performance, so if he’s not willing to receive criticism, then he’s obviously in the wrong career. It comes with the territory and if you can’t take it, then go back to West Virginia, where you would rather be. They did tell you, there was always a position available, if this one didn’t pan out, right?

I don’t believe in this site (scout.com chippewas insider) and it’s unethical practices that Tom Mehl “beat western”, site administrator has had to resort to."

If Tom Mehl "beatwestern" wants to market the scout.com site in cm-life, then we should at least tell people that proceed with caution is exactly, correct. Chippewas Insider will censor anything that is remotely the truth. If you want to have an opinion, then post here at NCAABBS.com. They have given people freedom and will not try to strong arm you in protecting unethical people.

ChipFB Wrote:how can a handful of fans, such as us, have a significance on a team.

I guess thats the point, we dont have any effect on the current team - or at least we shouldnt. These forums should be a safe place to show some passion for the home team (both positive and negative), as long as we dont get into name calling and general abuse of each other and especially the players. The coaching staff is an entirely different topic though - theyre free game. My favorite thread every week on CI is always "(insert coaches name here)....". Im not saying that those playfull comments are on par with 'BJ is a racist' or 'BJ and staff abuse the players' but they should be taken with the same grain of salt - ITS A MESSAGE BOARD! Some people are just jerks, thats all.

Someone on CI mentioned that if locker room tirades are being leaked, it is a cancer that should be stopped. I think we can all agree on that being true to a certain extent. The locker room should be a place where the coach is in control and his authority is not compromised unless he is putting his players in danger. At that point, someone needs to be the whistle blower, and the way to do that would not be through leaking the info to friends/family/posters, but to go to the AD or Rao himself. The disconnect here is that it is impossible to decipher tone and context when reading the information as written by secondary and tirtiary posters. It is harder yet to be able to tell if that information came from a group of pissed off players, or if there is something major that needs to be addressed. I think that there is something wrong in the CMU locker room, but it is probably more along the lines of the new, inexperienced coaches losing their collective cool on a regular basis and not being able to cope with the pressures of running a DI program than actual patterned abuse of our beloved Chippewas.

Irregardless of all of that, BW is douche.

CFB, at the risk of getting banned on CI, it would be pretty fun to get a group of the 'outsiders' together and try to set a record for number of erased threads in a set time period.

CMU04 Wrote:CFB, at the risk of getting banned on CI, it would be pretty fun to get a group of the 'outsiders' together and try to set a record for number of erased threads in a set time period.

Actually, one evening I believe there were a few "outsiders" who were trying to keep their posts from not being erased and Tom Mehl "beatwestern" erased, and I'm not exaggerating 20+ posts in a span of one hour. Not to mention the other ones since then.

I've been erased over 15 times over there...I would shoot for 20 but I can't read that crap anymore...

Message boards have become the modern-day barbershop that you see in the movie Hoosiers. Second guessing every decision, criticizing play-calling, coaching techniques and strategy is a time-honored tradition. Coaches who have "rabbit ears" to the comments of the fans probably shouldn't be coaching at all. The censoring simply gives those stories credibility. It was handled wrong, whether those stories were completely accurate or exaggerated.

Quite right, and another overly emotional response by an inexperienced coaching staff, that obviously realize they are in over way there heads. So they too spin, spin, spin or their team of BB's does. It was really just one bad hire after another, and ultimately all the bs will surface, it always does.

It really boggles my mind to believe that those guys over there don't have anything better to do than delete message board postings. It's not as if the fate of the free world is hanging on each and every word.

Oh well! Great to have this venue.