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chess Wrote:As for Hawaii, there is nothing they can do about their schedule. The voting media must decide how to handle this team. Can we reward a team that is playing a terrible schedule but winning? Or.... If BCS schools won't schedule the good non-BCS teams, should we reward a team based on potential?
Not to nitpick, but try to be careful with that term, the media no longer determine anything for the BCS. It is now the Coaches Poll and the Harris Poll, consisting of a bunch of alleged experts, but very few of them work in the media as far as I recall. People are used to just saying the media from when the AP Poll was involved and I guess that habit is not yet out of everyone's system.
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MOUNTAINEERFAN64 Wrote:I think Ciny deserves the ranking more than Hawaii.. For the most part, I would agree with your poll.

I had to make some decisions and Cincinnati was a team I thought about.

Cincinnati beat an Oregon State team that has some interesting wins this year. This win is a great win for the Bearcats.

Cincinnati beat an average Rutgers team. Once again, a win to build a case on.

Cincinnati lost to a Louisville team that was falling apart. We all know Louisville is a better team than the level they are playing. In fact, if Louisville is back, the loss may not be that bad on the Bearcats' resume.

As for Hawaii, there is nothing they can do about their schedule. The voting media must decide how to handle this team. Can we reward a team that is playing a terrible schedule but winning? Or.... If BCS schools won't schedule the good non-BCS teams, should we reward a team based on potential?

The Boise State-Southern Miss game was a great game for Boise State because it created a "pecking order" to judge these teams. So far, Hawaii does not have this.


My thing with Hawaii is the fact that they are struggling with their weak schedule.
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MOUNTAINEERFAN64 Wrote:My thing with Hawaii is the fact that they are struggling with their weak schedule.

I watched part of the Hawaii game.

I still don't know how they won. San Jose State had them beat and gave the game away.

Secondly, I cannot think of a team I dislike more than Hawaii. Frankly, they have all the bravado of an old Miami team without the cache'.
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chess Wrote:As for Hawaii, there is nothing they can do about their schedule. The voting media must decide how to handle this team. Can we reward a team that is playing a terrible schedule but winning? Or.... If BCS schools won't schedule the good non-BCS teams, should we reward a team based on potential?
Not to nitpick, but try to be careful with that term, the media no longer determine anything for the BCS. It is now the Coaches Poll and the Harris Poll, consisting of a bunch of alleged experts, but very few of them work in the media as far as I recall. People are used to just saying the media from when the AP Poll was involved and I guess that habit is not yet out of everyone's system.

Great point.
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10/21/2007 (Remember, this poll is my world)

1. Ohio State
2. Boston College
3. Arizona State
4. LSU (7-1)
5. West Virginia (6-1)
6. Oregon (6-1)
7. Oklahoma (7-1)
8. Kansas (7-0)
9. Southern Cal (6-1)
10. Virginia (7-1)
11. South Florida (6-1)
12. Virginia Tech (6-1)
13. Missouri (6-1)
14. Hawaii (schedule still stinks)
15. Michigan (5-2, lost to App State, Oregon)
16. Florida (5-2) (loss to Auburn, LSU)
17. South Carolina (6-2) (loss to LSU, Vandy)
18. Connecticut (6-1, loss to UVA)
19. Texas A&M (6-2)
20. Wake Forest (5-2)
21. Kentucky (6-2)
22. Georgia (5-2)
23. California (5-2)
24. Rutgers (5-2)
25. Clemson (5-2)

Frankly, any ranked team from 8 and above is a crapshoot.
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chess Wrote:10/21/2007 (Remember, this poll is my world)

1. Ohio State
2. Boston College
3. Arizona State
4. LSU (7-1)
5. West Virginia (6-1)
6. Oregon (6-1)
7. Oklahoma (7-1)
8. Kansas (7-0)
9. Southern Cal (6-1)
10. Virginia (7-1)
11. South Florida (6-1)
12. Virginia Tech (6-1)
13. Missouri (6-1)
14. Hawaii (schedule still stinks)
15. Michigan (5-2, lost to App State, Oregon)
16. Florida (5-2) (loss to Auburn, LSU)
17. South Carolina (6-2) (loss to LSU, Vandy)
18. Connecticut (6-1, loss to UVA)
19. Texas A&M (6-2)
20. Wake Forest (5-2)
21. Kentucky (6-2)
22. Georgia (5-2)
23. California (5-2)
24. Rutgers (5-2)
25. Clemson (5-2)

Frankly, any ranked team from 8 and above is a crapshoot.

Not a bad ranking, although, I'm still not convinced OK is a top 10 team, Hawaii still has to be the luckiest team alive. IMO, BC will lose next week, Arizona State is finally getting to the meat of their schedule, Oregon faces USC next week. Kansas faces Texas A&M, Ohio State travels to Penn St. as well. My very own WVU travels to Rutgers next week, so I'm looking for possibly another big shakeup in the top 10 for the week of Oct. 27th. It's just too damned unpredictable! 03-lmfao

Prediction!! OK St. beats OK in Norman next week! 05-stirthepot
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Despite lapses, Sooners are among nation's best
By Tom Dienhart
Sporting News

AMES, Iowa -- Style points don't count. This isn't figure skating. It's tackle football, thank goodness. The object: score one more point than your foe.

Mission accomplished for Oklahoma, which painted the joint a thick coat of ugly in a grungy 17-7 win over plucky Iowa State.

At least an unranked team didn't unceremoniously dump the No. 4 Sooners. That has been the script in a bizarro season that has given up oh-my-god gems such as Stanford 24, USC 23; Kentucky 43, LSU 37; and Appalachian State 34, Michigan 32.

Oklahoma knows the feeling, having been pantsed by Colorado, 27-24. But not today. No siree Bob Stoops.

It's all about surviving and advancing. And that's what the Sooners did after trailing 7-0 at the half and looking oh-so-primed to lose thanks to a sluggish offense and three turnovers.

"I didn't have a great speech at halftime," says Stoops. "If you're going to be a championship team, we have to respond in difficult situations. It's hard to have a ton of energy when you turn the ball over, even when they aren't perfect."

There will be better days for an offense netted just 316 yards after entering the game averaging 48.4 points and 468 yards. OU quarterback Sam Bradford, the redshirt freshman sensation, misfired on several sure touchdown passes, was sacked three times and tossed a pick. He finished 16-of-28 for 183 yards.

The ground game struggled to get on track until the second half, but the Sooners ended up grinding out 133 yards after having just 37 at halftime.

At least the defense showed up, rationing the Cyclones 269 puny yards of offense.

"If that's not the best team in the nation, then it's one of the best," says Iowa State coach Gene Chizik.

I agree. In fact, I think the Sooners are one of the two best teams in America (Ohio State is the other), and that they're headed to the BCS title game on January 7 in New Orleans.

Sure, the secondary is vulnerable at times, and Bradford still suffers hiccups. But this team is as close to complete as any in the nation.

And look at the remaining schedule: vs. Texas A&M; vs. Baylor; at Texas Tech; vs. Oklahoma State. Then comes the Big 12 title game. Who in the North is gonna beat OU? Exactly.

The Sooners will need a few teams ahead of them in the BCS standings to lose along the way. And that will happen. You just know it.

We shouldn't be shocked that OU is primed to pounce in a season when no one expected it. Remember: This arguably has been the team of the decade, having forged an 84-15 mark with four BCS bowl bids and three Big 12 titles. The Sooners won the national title in 2000 and played for all the marbles after the 2003 and 2004 seasons. No school in the nation can match that run.

"This off-week comes at a great time," says Stoops. "Everybody keeps talking about how good or bad we are. We haven't reached our full potential this year."

That's scary. And that's why I like Oklahoma.

This biased piece of excuse making appeared on the Yahoo Sports website on Saturday, October 20, 2007.
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October 28

This week becomes more difficult. We have undefeated Ohio State, Boston College, Kansas, and Arizona State teams that are winning. Are they really better than LSU, WVU, Oregon, and Oklahoma?

We are also seeing a number of 2 and 3 loss teams. The SEC is really chewing itself up. South Carolina's OT loss to Tennessee really makes a cluster *** out of the East.

Everything is a guess once you get outside the top 10. Can we really line up these teams?

1. Ohio State 9-0
2. Boston College 8-0
3. Arizona State 8-0
4. Kansas 8-0
5. LSU
6. West Virginia
7. Oregon
8. Oklahoma
9. Missouri
10. Connecticut
11. Virginia Tech (lost to LSU and BC)
12. Georgia
13. Wake Forest
14. Michigan
15. Hawaii
16. Southern Cal
17. Wisconsin
18. Texas
19. Alabama
20. Clemson
21. South Florida
22. Tennessee
23. Auburn
24. Purdue
25. South Carolina
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