MeanGreenGem Wrote:"It is better to be silent and thought of as a fool than to speak and prove it.



And its not about where you've been, Boyz State, its where and how far you can go to the next level with your future. No one in the almighty state of Texas knows doodly squat about your school (or really cares--so we're all even on that part, eh?); BUT.... some know you do have a freakin' blue football field. Texans kind of find that to be quite amusing (and strange).

I think the quote is " It is better to be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt"

The people I know in Texas don't pay attention to much of anything outside of Texas so not knowing about BSU is not big deal. What is a big deal is that few of them know anything about North Texas and none of them care. Texans have always had a different sense of humor or they wouldn't go for Armadillo races

Well, even LSU fans down here in Baton Rouge know all about Boise State. Those Texas folks might be somewhat full of themselves or have their head in the sand if they don't know about Boise by now.

By the way, that stupid quote has been thrown around on the Tech board a few times by those stupid NT posters as well. That was on a Tech board member's signature for a long time, and so I figure they used it as an insult to us, even though they can't even get it right. It just goes to show the quality of idiots that are ranting and raving about how great NT is on everyone ELSE's board. It must be dead at their board because no one cares enough to post there, so they raid the rest of ours.

I really really really hope that La Tech kicks some mean green @$$ this year.

Go Tech.

Besides, any college football fan that doesn't know who BSU is by now must not watch sports highlights or even look at the top 25 listings. Some college FB fans. They must be the same ones that the mean grUNT are really players in college FB.

MichealBond Wrote:Some things the WAC should do to rise again:

1.Get the MWC Champ to Meet them in San Diego For The Poinsetta Bowl:  This will provide a great location for the Champions of both these Conferences...as well as lots of publicity..because the Champs will probably be ranked most years...

1.Poinsetta Bowl
2.Humanitarian
3.Hawaii Bowl

What about Houston? Is your commissioner following the Liberty and Houston Bowls? The WAC has some leverage right now in having very good (ranked) football champions. If the SEC succeeds in knocking C-USA out of the Liberty Bowl, what about a C-USA champion versus WAC champion game in the Houston Bowl? Y'all could use the exposure in the central time zone, and I think the former C-USA teams would lobby for a tie to the WAC over the MWC (plus Fresno State's finest, David Carr, is still here in Houston).

I would love to see C-USA and the WAC force the MWC champion into playing the PAC-10 number 7 (oops they didn't qualify a seventh team and the MWC champion is playing Troy State), while the WAC and C-USA continue to play showcase games like Boise State-TCU in 2003 and Boise State-Louisville in 2004.

ESE84 Wrote:

MichealBond Wrote:Some things the WAC should do to rise again:

1.Get the MWC Champ to Meet them in San Diego For The Poinsetta Bowl:  This will provide a great location for the Champions of both these Conferences...as well as lots of publicity..because the Champs will probably be ranked most years...

1.Poinsetta Bowl
2.Humanitarian
3.Hawaii Bowl

What about Houston? Is your commissioner following the Liberty and Houston Bowls? The WAC has some leverage right now in having very good (ranked) football champions. If the SEC succeeds in knocking C-USA out of the Liberty Bowl, what about a C-USA champion versus WAC champion game in the Houston Bowl? Y'all could use the exposure in the central time zone, and I think the former C-USA teams would lobby for a tie to the WAC over the MWC (plus Fresno State's finest, David Carr, is still here in Houston).

I would love to see C-USA and the WAC force the MWC champion into playing the PAC-10 number 7 (oops they didn't qualify a seventh team and the MWC champion is playing Troy State), while the WAC and C-USA continue to play showcase games like Boise State-TCU in 2003 and Boise State-Louisville in 2004.

Well, MichealBond isn't a WAC fan...just another in a long list of people (mostly CUSA fans) who apparently feel it's their duty to "save" the WAC. :rolleyes:

Bensen's made it clear that he's been talking to every bowl with potential openings, including the Liberty and Houston bowls. I wouldn't mind seeing a matchup of WAC & CUSA champs, although I'd rather see a WAC/MWC matchup because it would have greater regional interest. Houston would be a tough place for travel for anyone other than LaTech or NMSU, so it would be less than ideal...but I'd be okay with it if it happened.

Quote: Well, MichealBond isn't a WAC fan...just another in a long list of people (mostly CUSA fans) who apparently feel it's their duty to "save" the WAC.

WRONG!!! I am a WAC Fan, Just because I come from East Carolina doesn't mean I don't try my best to keep up with ALL of the conferences...I'm a College Football fan...

I don't feel it's my duty to come and try to "save" the WAC...I was merely giving my take on what i feel the WAC should do...I have quite a few ideas and it's not only about this conference...Please don't judge me...I've said nothing to attack the WAC, because I think You guys can do very well...

I could see the Houston Bowl as a possible matchup...but I just think WAC fans would rather follow their champion to a bowl game closer to the Western US

MichealBond Wrote:

Quote: Well, MichealBond isn't a WAC fan...just another in a long list of people (mostly CUSA fans) who apparently feel it's their duty to "save" the WAC.

WRONG!!! I am a WAC Fan, Just because I come from East Carolina doesn't mean I don't try my best to keep up with ALL of the conferences...I'm a College Football fan...

I don't feel it's my duty to come and try to "save" the WAC...I was merely giving my take on what i feel the WAC should do...I have quite a few ideas and it's not only about this conference...Please don't judge me...I've said nothing to attack the WAC, because I think You guys can do very well...

I could see the Houston Bowl as a possible matchup...but I just think WAC fans would rather follow their champion to a bowl game closer to the Western US

Sorry, my comment probably came across a bit harsh, but your post shared common themes with several earlier "plans" for saving the "dying" WAC. Such plans, usually put forth by CUSA fans, almost always include:

1. Dumping LaTech. LT wants to stay in the WAC until a better opportunity knocks, and the WAC still wants them. It's not an ideal situation, but the greater transportation costs they incur in the WAC are at least partially offset by greater revenues than they'd get if they were in the SBC. CUSA has their own travel issues to worry about.

2. Immediately extending invitations to one or more D1AA schools. That may someday be necessary, but right now it isn't. The WAC may lose a team or two (or three, or whatever), but it's also possible that they don't lose anyone. Sometimes I get the feeling that CUSA fans would like to see a diluted WAC so CUSA would have a bit of cushion from becoming a D1A bottom dweller. In any case, Northern Colorado doesn't appear to be the best D1AA candidate out there. If they can build some facilities and find some fans, maybe that won't always be the case.

I have mixed feelings about inviting Denver as a basketball only member...I know it was strongly considered. In a way, it'd be nice to have another (TENTH, mind you) basketball team, but stability comes from all-sports members, not affiliates.

IMO, there's nothing fatally wrong with the WAC, and fans of other conferences should worry about themselves.

sdbronco Wrote:I really really really hope that La Tech kicks some mean green @$$ this year.

Go Tech.

Besides, any college football fan that doesn't know who BSU is by now must not watch sports highlights or even look at the top 25 listings. Some college FB fans. They must be the same ones that the mean grUNT are really players in college FB.

In the nation of Texas, BSU means, uh, Baptist Student Union! After all, there are almost 3 million Baptist in the Lone Star Nation! (I, myself, am a back-slidden Methodist)!

grUNTs? LOL!

When the funds that the ex WAC (now CUSA) schools left on the table dry up, that is when La Tech will have their greatest budget challenges. That will be in about 2 or 3 years as I understand it.

GMG!

clpack Wrote:LaTech wants to stay in the WAC until a better opportunity knocks, and the WAC still wants them...

You got that right. Louisiana Tech has told the Sun Belch seven ways from Sunday "We're not interested in being in the Belch. We're happy in the WAC- Thanks."

Go WAC- Let's get 3 teams in the Top 25 in '05!
Louisiana Tech 31- UNT 17

[QUOTE]In the nation of Texas, BSU means, uh, Baptist Student Union! After all, there are almost 3 million Baptist in the Lone Star Nation! (I, myself, am a back-slidden Methodist)!

grUNTs? LOL!


So what's the acronym for the 4673 pUNT fans?

DogsWin Wrote:

clpack Wrote:LaTech wants to stay in the WAC until a better opportunity knocks, and the WAC still wants them...

You got that right. Louisiana Tech has told the Sun Belch seven ways from Sunday "We're not interested in being in the Belch. We're happy in the WAC- Thanks."

Go WAC- Let's get 3 teams in the Top 25 in '05!
Louisiana Tech 31- UNT 17

No, now get it right. It is La Tech posters have told the "Belch" those things. Don't think you or any LT poster from a collegiate smack board will be in on that future decision-making process that will materialize once the CUSA (ex WAC) schools funds have been used up.

Of course, the thing that some La Techsters may need to concern themselves is if they would even get enough votes to get in the, uh, Sun "BELCH!" It is common knowledge that you bring no TV market to the SBC and your facilities are now (or will soon be) behind most in the SBC. No smack there, just solid facts for those who can handle them.

No, the fact is, you're an ****** and no one here values the opinion of some North Texas spammers. Why don't you go spam LSU? They've been to your board a few times. You are all over everyone else's board. LSU would probably wreck your board with endless messages, spam your e-mail accounts and shut down your freakin' site because of their massive, massive numbers if you did this to them. So why not? Go post all your stupid news flashes about every phukking thing that goes on in your great empire of Texas... well, the little piece of the state that you pukes live in. See what the Tigers say about all this stupid crap.

...once the CUSA (ex WAC) schools funds have been used up.
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That's at least your second reference to some mysterious drying up of "wealth" left by the departing members. That makes no sense, because:

1) NCAA basketball tourney credits (i.e., games played): Over the past 2 years, Nevada earned 5 credits, while UTEP earned 2. Over the 3-year period prior to that, Tulsa earned 4, Hawaii 2, and Fresno 2. So most of the money has been earned by returning members. But so what? What really matters is how we do in the future. With Utah St. and a Theus-lead NMSU, there's no reason to expect a drop off. From what I see happening around the conference, I expect to see an INCREASE.

2) Bowl game money: It's a pretty well documented fact that money from minimum-payout bowl games is almost entirely eaten up by travel expenses. That means we end up with a little leftover from Boise's appearance in the Liberty Bowl last year, which has nothing to do with departing members. If there is any revenue from minimum-payout bowls, the teams that are in bowls year-in, year-out are Boise, Fresno, and Hawaii. The strongest teams, by far, are still here, so the potential for future bowl money hasn't decreased.

3) TV money: The WAC's TV contracts aren't huge, but they're nonetheless larger than they've ever been, and they aren't going to go down.

I can think of only one factor that lends any credence to your statement. The incoming WAC members waived the right to revenues in lieu of an entrance fee (for a period of three years I think). So that means LaTech will actually get MORE money for the next few years than they've been getting, and when that time period expires, we'll return to a similar distribution as before. By that time, revenues will have increased.

Whoever came up with the notion of funds getting "used up" is suffering from a case of bad logic.

UNT is pathetic. After 4 years of winning the Skunk Belt(and that's the only league they can win in) they are still averaging only 15k fans. They have never sold out their stadium, small as it is, or averaged 20,000 fans per game. UNT's fan support is like that of a 1-AA team.

I would have to aggree with El Paso Aggie. Utah St fans and New Mexico St fans are quite familiar with North Texas. Though, their run in the Skunk Belt is honorable, La Tech shouldn't have any problem with the MeanBean this year.

Utah St played virtually the same team that La Tech will face this year. Kevin Robinson, Utah St's best player, was thrown out of the game early on after scoring a touchdown. The referee made a unsportsmanlike conduct call when Robinson wasn't even celebrating. They also called a touchdown back on a bad call. Needless to say, NT came out of Logan by the skin of their teeth. What this should tell you is that the MeanBean can barely beat the teams of the Skunk Belt. On top of that Utah St had one of its worst coaches in history coaching its team last year. :cry: The MeanBean are really mean, let me tell you, to be able to beat a very lowly and bad Utah St team last year by the skin of their teeth.

Again, if Utah St can do that, no problem for La Tech.

Score prediction 42-10 La Tech wins! :bluethumb:

ejmpalle Wrote:I would have to aggree with El Paso Aggie. Utah St fans and New Mexico St fans are quite familiar with North Texas. Though, their run in the Skunk Belt is honorable, La Tech shouldn't have any problem with the MeanBean this year.

Utah St played virtually the same team that La Tech will face this year. Kevin Robinson, Utah St's best player, was thrown out of the game early on after scoring a touchdown. The referee made a unsportsmanlike conduct call when Robinson wasn't even celebrating. They also called a touchdown back on a bad call. Needless to say, NT came out of Logan by the skin of their teeth. What this should tell you is that the MeanBean can barely beat the teams of the Skunk Belt. On top of that Utah St had one of its worst coaches in history coaching its team last year. :cry: The MeanBean are really mean, let me tell you, to be able to beat a very lowly and bad Utah St team last year by the skin of their teeth.

Again, if Utah St can do that, no problem for La Tech.

Score prediction 42-10 La Tech wins! :bluethumb:

Here's how NMSU did last year against Skunk Belt teams. I'm not counting our game against Utah State because they are now in the WAC just like us.

NMSU 22 Troy 18
NMSU 35 ULL 32
NMSU 26 UNT 36
NMSU 56 FIU 31
NMSU 44 MTSU 10
NMSU 35 FAU 7

That's 5-1 vs the skunks. The "cream of the crop" team UNT barely beat us by 10 at their place. We would have beaten them easily in Las Cruces. Another thing is that even despite the fact we dominated most of the skunks we still went ahead and fired our coach. See WAC teams have higher standards. Beating a bunch of sucky teams means absolutely nothing to us. I know that beating skunky teams gets UNT fans excited but out side of skunk territory nobody cares. Heck, judging by UNT's attendance it seems no in Denton cares either.

El Paso Aggie Wrote:

ejmpalle Wrote:I would have to aggree with El Paso Aggie.  Utah St fans and New Mexico St fans are quite familiar with North Texas.  Though, their run in the Skunk Belt is honorable, La Tech shouldn't have any problem with the MeanBean this year.

Utah St played virtually the same team that La Tech will face this year.  Kevin Robinson, Utah St's best player, was thrown out of the game early on after scoring a touchdown.  The referee made a unsportsmanlike conduct call when Robinson wasn't even celebrating.  They also called a touchdown back on a bad call.    Needless to say, NT came out of Logan by the skin of their teeth.  What this should tell you is that the MeanBean can barely beat the teams of the Skunk Belt.  On top of that Utah St had one of its worst coaches in history coaching its team last year.  :cry: The MeanBean are really mean, let me tell you, to be able to beat a very lowly and bad Utah St team last year by the skin of their teeth.

Again, if Utah St can do that, no problem for La Tech.

Score prediction 42-10 La Tech wins!  :bluethumb:

Here's how NMSU did last year against Skunk Belt teams. I'm not counting our game against Utah State because they are now in the WAC just like us.

NMSU 22 Troy 18
NMSU 35 ULL 32
NMSU 26 UNT 36
NMSU 56 FIU 31
NMSU 44 MTSU 10
NMSU 35 FAU 7

That's 5-1 vs the skunks. The "cream of the crop" team UNT barely beat us by 10 at their place. We would have beaten them easily in Las Cruces. Another thing is that even despite the fact we dominated most of the skunks we still went ahead and fired our coach. See WAC teams have higher standards. Beating a bunch of sucky teams means absolutely nothing to us. I know that beating skunky teams gets UNT fans excited but out side of skunk territory nobody cares. Heck, judging by UNT's attendance it seems no in Denton cares either.

Why are you guys referring to Sun Belt teams as skunks? Did you all seem to forget that both USU and NMSU were skunks for years too?

:rolleyes:

utepfanfromla Wrote:

El Paso Aggie Wrote:

ejmpalle Wrote:I would have to aggree with El Paso Aggie.  Utah St fans and New Mexico St fans are quite familiar with North Texas.  Though, their run in the Skunk Belt is honorable, La Tech shouldn't have any problem with the MeanBean this year.

Utah St played virtually the same team that La Tech will face this year.  Kevin Robinson, Utah St's best player, was thrown out of the game early on after scoring a touchdown.  The referee made a unsportsmanlike conduct call when Robinson wasn't even celebrating.  They also called a touchdown back on a bad call.    Needless to say, NT came out of Logan by the skin of their teeth.  What this should tell you is that the MeanBean can barely beat the teams of the Skunk Belt.  On top of that Utah St had one of its worst coaches in history coaching its team last year.  :cry: The MeanBean are really mean, let me tell you, to be able to beat a very lowly and bad Utah St team last year by the skin of their teeth.

Again, if Utah St can do that, no problem for La Tech.

Score prediction 42-10 La Tech wins!  :bluethumb:

Here's how NMSU did last year against Skunk Belt teams. I'm not counting our game against Utah State because they are now in the WAC just like us.

NMSU 22 Troy 18
NMSU 35 ULL 32
NMSU 26 UNT 36
NMSU 56 FIU 31
NMSU 44 MTSU 10
NMSU 35 FAU 7

That's 5-1 vs the skunks. The "cream of the crop" team UNT barely beat us by 10 at their place. We would have beaten them easily in Las Cruces. Another thing is that even despite the fact we dominated most of the skunks we still went ahead and fired our coach. See WAC teams have higher standards. Beating a bunch of sucky teams means absolutely nothing to us. I know that beating skunky teams gets UNT fans excited but out side of skunk territory nobody cares. Heck, judging by UNT's attendance it seems no in Denton cares either.

Why are you guys referring to Sun Belt teams as skunks? Did you all seem to forget that both USU and NMSU were skunks for years too?

:rolleyes:

Who invited YOU into this conversation??? This is a WAC board and if I want to call them skunks it is none of of your business. Go play in your own board. I don't understand all the fools from CUSA and the Skunk Belt always hanging around here. They come here and talk crap and they then start whining when we put them in their place. I don't see any WAC fans going over and trolling on your boards so why don't you stay away from this one.

utepfanfromla Wrote:

El Paso Aggie Wrote:Why are you guys referring to Sun Belt teams as skunks? Did you all seem to forget that both USU and NMSU were skunks for years too?

:rolleyes:

Yes, Utah St was in the WAC last year. Congratulations, genious! I'm glad that you actually have figured out what conference Utah St was in last year. Now here's the million dollar question. Do you know what conference Utah St is in this year? :rolleyes:

In all seriousness, UTEP will be missed in the WAC. Even though Utah St was never a conference mate with UTEP, UTEP will be missed.

As far as the MeanBean go, they ARE in a horrible conference. I think that I can bash a team that can't beat an even worse team handily. Especially if that team is bashing a conference with 2 teams in preseason top 25 rankings and teams that have been ranked in the top 25 year in and year out in the past. Some people need to be brought back to reality.

Good luck in the CUSA, UTEP. If any team comes out of that conference in flying colors I hope it is the Miners.

El Paso Aggie Wrote:Who invited YOU into this conversation???  This is a WAC board and if I want to call them skunks it is none of of your business.  Go play in your own board.  I don't understand all the fools from CUSA and the Skunk Belt always hanging around here.  They come here and talk crap and they then start whining when we put them in their place.  I don't see any WAC fans going over and trolling on your boards so why don't you stay away from this one.

I invited myself into this conversation, this is a public message board..I'm sorry if you aren't smart enough to notice that. I usually post on the C-USA board..I just come here to check out how the old conference mates are doing..and unlike you, I actually like my old conference mates and wish them well, I don't insult them like you do. I remember a couple of years ago, nmsu aggie fans were defending their "skunk belt" like it was the best thing on earth, now you insult them in the same way we insulted you? Pathetic :laugh:

You are right about one thing, I don't notice many WAC fans posting on the C-USA forum...instead, you can usually find them on the MWC forum kissing the goats butts to let their school join them. :laugh:

NMSU is a newbie :newb: to this conference, UTEP on the other hand was in the WAC for almost 40 years! Know your place rookie and enjoy the WAC ride!

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