With UL the last couple of years holding their own in all sports
Now UC and USF showing their football might, this brings 3 SOLID teams to replace Vt, Miami, and BC. Also, all three are sure to be loyal to the conference for years to come, with the opportunity the conference (teams and administration) gave them.

Two great wins for the BE. Victories over BCS conference teams give the BE the respect it deserves. USF's victory over Auburn ranks right up there with WV's victory over Georgia in the Sugar Bowl several years ago. Victories such as these tell the rest of the football world what we already know. The BE is definitely a BCS caliber league.

What a nice win USF had last night. Cincy's win was huge for the conference as well. USF should have taken Auburn to the woodshed if the kicker can kick some FGs. Man I was amazed at how fast that defense is on the USF side.

Although UCONN's win over Maine 38-0 was lost in the shuffle, but UCONN's D looked amazing so far. The front 7 is freaking fast as hell. We will surprise someone but BE games are getting tougher and tougher. BTW, Maine's D is way better than Duke's D.

I think as long as we're at 8 teams, the reshuffling won't be completely finished. Eventually we're going to have to get to 9 for football.

wvucrazed Wrote:I think as long as we're at 8 teams, the reshuffling won't be completely finished. Eventually we're going to have to get to 9 for football.

bingo. And I still wouldn't be too comfortable at 9.

Ideally we should have 10 like the PAC-10. I would not mind ECU or UCF. We need to split and add couple more for long term stability. ECU better hope they can keep Skip cause I think he would be a good hire for Cuse to replace Robinson.

I think UCF would be the best next addition.
We don't want ot repeat the mistake we made with Miami by not giving our Florida school a local rival. This will kepp both schools inthe league longer. Being in Florida does pay off- football simply is king in the south but the BE footprint should be mostly in the northeast.
Two more BCS schools in Florida should be enough to tap the talent pool in the state while diluting it for FSU, UM and and UF.
No one can talk about the big three in Florida. There's just the big two. Florida and USF- UM and FSU, even surrounded by all that talent, have fallen of the map.
Besides two Florida schools guarentees each of our northern BB schools will get a little vacation during the cold snowy winter.

When UofL, USF, and UC were added to the league I read a LOT of comments on other Big East team message boards that asking why in the world USF and UC were added.

I'd say that question has been answered.

frogman Wrote:I think UCF would be the best next addition.
We don't want ot repeat the mistake we made with Miami by not giving our Florida school a local rival. This will kepp both schools inthe league longer. Being in Florida does pay off- football simply is king in the south but the BE footprint should be mostly in the northeast.
Two more BCS schools in Florida should be enough to tap the talent pool in the state while diluting it for FSU, UM and and UF.
No one can talk about the big three in Florida. There's just the big two. Florida and USF- UM and FSU, even surrounded by all that talent, have fallen of the map.
Besides two Florida schools guarentees each of our northern BB schools will get a little vacation during the cold snowy winter.

You know whats kinda funny. UM might have doom themselves and FSU by their defection. If UM never left USF would still be in the CUSA and UCF wouldn't even be in the mind Big East fans.

Now its completely different. Now you add USF into the fray and UCF might join it too. Before it was just the big three, now its the big four and could be big 5. USF is already better than UM and FSU. The raid could very well have ruined it for UM and FSU.

Or you could do sch alliance withn BYU, who btw brought 20,000 fans with them to the Rose Bowl yesterday.

Bringing 20K to the Rose Bowl when you are in Utah isn't that impressive... would be more impressive if they brought 20K to some place east.

frogman Wrote:I think UCF would be the best next addition.
We don't want ot repeat the mistake we made with Miami by not giving our Florida school a local rival. This will kepp both schools inthe league longer. Being in Florida does pay off- football simply is king in the south but the BE footprint should be mostly in the northeast.
Two more BCS schools in Florida should be enough to tap the talent pool in the state while diluting it for FSU, UM and and UF.
No one can talk about the big three in Florida. There's just the big two. Florida and USF- UM and FSU, even surrounded by all that talent, have fallen of the map.
Besides two Florida schools guarentees each of our northern BB schools will get a little vacation during the cold snowy winter.

I think USF may have already made it known that they don't want UCF in the Big East - at least for the short term.

And while Miami complained about not having a more regional rival in the league, when Mikey T recommended that the league could explore expanding to 16 by adding Louisville and South Florida back in 2002, Miami said they had no interest in being in a league with South Florida.

In other words, Miami was sending mixed signals. They wanted to lay the foundation for their move to the ACC by citing reasonable 'issues' they had with the league. On the other hand, they wanted no part of coming up with any solutions to said issues because they knew they were going to go to the ACC within a year or two, so why bother.

So, was their not wanting South Florida the latter? Or was it because they didn't want another public Florida school elevated to the level where they could be perceived as being in the same grouping of Miami, FSU, and Florida?

I'm not sure. But I think the latter is the concern of the USF athletic administration in regard to adding UCF to the BEast, especially with the Bulls poised to join the Florida elite three or at the very least, further separating themselves from UCF and the other Florida schools and inching themselves closer to the upper tier Florida programs.

Cheers,
Neil

dgrace4cards Wrote:With UL the last couple of years holding their own in all sports
Now UC and USF showing their football might, this brings 3 SOLID teams to replace Vt, Miami, and BC. Also, all three are sure to be loyal to the conference for years to come, with the opportunity the conference (teams and administration) gave them.

Agreed! Also what a nice step up interms of Class. VT and Miami are shameful football programs, Canes = thug central and the Vick brothers
sealed their fate as VT role models. BC scammed the Big East. The BBall side of the equation needs no explanation.

I'd say the pickup of USF is equivalent to when Miami joined the Big East. USF will help to carry this conference in a few years...and Louisville has become a power. I'd say the Big East is certainly in no worse shape than when Miami and VT left.

mlb Wrote:Bringing 20K to the Rose Bowl when you are in Utah isn't that impressive... would be more impressive if they brought 20K to some place east.

Bringing 20K from Utah is kind of impressive. That's a 650 mile trip.

bitcruncher Wrote:

mlb Wrote:Bringing 20K to the Rose Bowl when you are in Utah isn't that impressive... would be more impressive if they brought 20K to some place east.

Bringing 20K from Utah is kind of impressive. That's a 650 mile trip.

20,000 from Utah would be very impressive. I'm sure that's not the case though. BYU has a more national fan base than most, including many Mormons in southern california. I'd bet a lot of the fans cheering for BYU in the Rose Bowl don't live in Utah and aren't BYU season ticket holders.