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iPOD TOUCH!!!

http://www.apple.com

Did you just have an iOrgasm?

The iPod Touch is an iPhone without the phone. I guess if you don't want to carry your laptop to the coffee shop and don't want a new cell phone, I could see the value of the iTouch. I'm sure Steve Jobs will tell us how it'll change our world.

Yeah but screw Steve for screwing those of us who paid full price for an iPhone. I'll get over it, but I'm kind of steamed over that move...

Well, I, for one, am glad I didn't buy an iPhone in June. Now, I'll definitely get one for Christmas.

Schard Wrote:The iPod Touch is an iPhone without the phone. I guess if you don't want to carry your laptop to the coffee shop and don't want a new cell phone, I could see the value of the iTouch. I'm sure Steve Jobs will tell us how it'll change our world.

Well, it's really just a souped up iPod nano with the new interface. If you like the old style iPod, they're still around. And the iPod touch is missing e-mail currently, but of course it has a web browser (for webmail) and I am willing to bet someone will hack one in there in short order.

Well, I'm still waiting for their new vacuum cleaner to come out...the iSuck.

Nice. I like the "Classic"

I have changed every part in my iPod Photo, including the logic board. The next time it goes north, it's gonna be replaced.

mixduptransistor Wrote:Yeah but screw Steve for screwing those of us who paid full price for an iPhone. I'll get over it, but I'm kind of steamed over that move...

Yeah, screw him for being a capitalist!!!

dfarr Wrote:

mixduptransistor Wrote:Yeah but screw Steve for screwing those of us who paid full price for an iPhone. I'll get over it, but I'm kind of steamed over that move...

Yeah, screw him for being a capitalist!!!

Well I'm a little pissed, but I'm not going all out like everyone else. I understand the reasoning, and I understand how the system works. Thats why I have not called at&t or Apple asking for a refund or any kind of reparations. Is it so g-d horrible if I have an opinion about a relationship between me and a company, a company who has made more money off of me than I've made my entire working career so far? I'm not bitching just to be trendy, I just simply put my opinion out there and that's that. I'm not going off the deep end like most people. Christ, learn to accept that others might possibly have a differing world view than you.

So how exactly did he screw you out of money?

For you early adopter crybabies:

Quote:Apple offers $100 apology to first iPhone customers

By Eric Benderoff

Tribune staff reporter

2:45 PM CDT, September 6, 2007


In the wake of a sudden and steep price cut on Wednesday that has angered early buyers of the iPhone, Apple Inc. Chief Executive Steve Jobs said every iPhone buyer is now eligible for a $100 store credit.

In an open letter posted on Apple's Web site Thursday afternoon, Jobs wrote that he has "received hundreds of emails from iPhone customers" who were upset by the $200 price cut just two months after it went on sale.

The credit is good for anyone who bought the product, even those customers who purchased one at an AT&T store.

"We need to do a better job taking care of our early iPhone customers as we aggressively go after new ones with a lower price," Jobs wrote. "Our early customers trusted us, and we must live up to that trust with our actions in moments like these."

According to Apple, the company is on pace to sell 1 million iPhones by the end of September.

The 8-gigabyte version is now priced at $399 and the 4-gigabyte version can be bought for $299 while supplies last.

That version is being discontinued as Apple found that most customers were opting for the model with more storage.

Copyright 2007, Chicago Tribune

Daggum it I was just about to post that.

And this is why I never buy anything new. There's always bugs and the price has nowhere to go but down in a few months.

That's the price you pay for the newest, shiniest thing. Personally I don't think Apple should offer anyone anything back. If you're willing to pay $500 for a phone, then that's of your own choice (or stupidity). The free market working at its best!

dfarr Wrote:That's the price you pay for the newest, shiniest thing. Personally I don't think Apple should offer anyone anything back. If you're willing to pay $500 for a phone, then that's of your own choice (or stupidity). The free market working at its best!

Rarely do we agree, but I agree with you wholeheartedly on this one.

I didn't get "screwed" in terms of what is right and wrong, but it does leave a sour taste, and it definitely makes me never want to be first to buy an Apple product, which is a very bad position for Apple to get into. You don't understand the Apple ecosystem. If they hadn't done what they did with the $100 rebate, they would have really alienated a lot of their customers.

I mean, it's great that the price dropped, but it is a little unreasonable that it dropped so much so fast, especially when the biggest complaint from "Apple haters" is "Well, they upgrade so fast so why would I buy anything from them?". Since when is it wrong for me, as a consumer who is spending my money, to be mad at a policy the company made? I was not going to go ask for my money back, but I was going to vote with my wallet...by not being an early adopter again. Now, Apple has regained my trust and I will be slightly more cautious with them, but I am again likely to be an early adopter of their products.

mixduptransistor Wrote:I didn't get "screwed" in terms of what is right and wrong, but it does leave a sour taste, and it definitely makes me never want to be first to buy an Apple product, which is a very bad position for Apple to get into. You don't understand the Apple ecosystem. If they hadn't done what they did with the $100 rebate, they would have really alienated a lot of their customers.

I mean, it's great that the price dropped, but it is a little unreasonable that it dropped so much so fast, especially when the biggest complaint from "Apple haters" is "Well, they upgrade so fast so why would I buy anything from them?". Since when is it wrong for me, as a consumer who is spending my money, to be mad at a policy the company made? I was not going to go ask for my money back, but I was going to vote with my wallet...by not being an early adopter again. Now, Apple has regained my trust and I will be slightly more cautious with them, but I am again likely to be an early adopter of their products.

Caveat emptor.

Although I agree with the notion that the early buyers were willing to pay for the $599 version so the price cut shouldn't affect them I think Apple did a very smart thing here. Their products have a very short life cycle so if they expect early demand to be there for their next product then they needed to offer this price cut. If not, they run the risk of having the 100's of thousands of early buyers take a wait and see approach for the next greatest iPhone in fear that there will be a steep price discount within a matter of a few months. However, I think Apple won't have this problem the next time around as they learned from this problem.

That being said, they must have been making outrageous margins on the iPhone to be able to give such a steep discount. I would also question how well the phones were selling at the original price. Analysts have been set on the target of 1 MM iPhones sold by year end and if Apple were to miss that target their stock would take a serious hit and analysts would question the viability of Apple being in the cell-phone business. It looks like it pretty much was a double-edged sword for Apple.

Well, the thing is apple doesn't set any targets, and the iPhone is selling great. They are on track to sell a million this month..and that was before the price drop. The iPhone outsold all other smartphones (blackberries, windows mobile based phones, etc) in July. Analysts have these outrageous targets that they put on themselves but they're not based in reality. The truth is that right now Apple is making an insane margin on these phones, and if they cut the price, still make a margin, but get a stranglehold on a corner of the market, later on they will be able to exploit that with a wider selection of phones with a wider range of prices. It has nothing to do with them "missing targets" or being worried that they won't impress at the end of the quarter. If the price had remained the same they'd sell less phones, but make more money. This way they get more users at less $$ per, but in the end will probably make MORE total money since they'll sell way more phones.

I agree with STL. Sounds like there's a supply and demand disequilibrium that forced the hand of Apple to lower the prices.

And for those (dfarr) who call it a free market right to set prices however and whenever Apple wants, yes, it's true, they can change the price by $500 every day if they like, but it's bad business and it's a turn off to buyers. Most retailers have a price adjustment policy that states that if a buyer purchases a product and within a certain amount of days the price drops, the buyer can bring the receipt in and the retailer will refund the difference. If Apple doesn't offer something to the first buyers that paid the higher cost for the phones, whether it be a credit or a partial refund, it's likely that many of those customers won't be camping out in front of the Apple stores next time.

/typing this message from my MacBook Pro, so this isn't an anti-Apple post