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RE: Right on schedule?
Capital Pirate Wrote:Buyout clauses are included in contracts for a reason......SU exercising their right to enact theirs shows just as much.....

...at least in ECU's situation w/ SU, we lined up replacement games for them (Wake Forest) instead of leaving them high and dry.....so, they got paid the buyout amount - and they got replacement games.....no harm, no foul.....

Actually the game that got Syracuse out of that dilemma WAS NOT the Wake Forest game it was that game. Syracuse's then-AD Jake Crouthamel called up Cincinnati's then-AD Bob Goin desperately looking for a replacement game. Bob Goin and Jake Crouthamel then worked out a plan, since going into the season Cincinnati was set to play Top 25 Purdue and Syracuse playing no one we gave Syracuse the Purdue game and then went to the Carrier Dome to play the Orange. That is what fixed Syracuse's problem.
08-13-2007 06:47 PM
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RE: Right on schedule?
FILLING THE VOID

The breakdown of nonconference opponents in 2007 for the 11 Division I-A conferences:
BCS conferences Non-conf. games versus BCS versus non-BCS versus I-AA
Big 12 48 12 28 8
Southeastern 48 15 23 10
Atlantic Coast 48 22 19 7
Big Ten 44 13 24 7
Big East 40 16 18 6
Pacific-10 31 10 19 2
Totals 259 88 131 40
Non-BCS conferences
Mountain West 36 17 14 5
Conference USA 48 25 15 8
Western Athletic 37 17 10 10
Mid-American 58 40 9 9
Sun Belt 38 24 9 5
Totals 217 123 57 37


2006 COMPARISON
How the 11 Division I-A conferences fared in nonconference play last season:
Conference Non-conf. versus BCS versus non-BCS versus I-AA
Big 12 33-15 3-8 20-6 10-1
Big Ten 33-12 7-7 20-3 6-2
Atlantic Coast 29-19 4-12 17-6 8-1
Southeastern 41-7 9-6 24-1 8-0
Big East 32-8 11-7 15-1 6-0
Pacific-10 22-9 7-6 10-3 5-0
Mountain West 16-20 3-10 9-8 4-2
Western Athletic 18-20 4-14 7-6 7-0
Conference USA 20-28 4-22 9-6 7-0
Mid-American 14-34 4-29 7-4 3-1
Sun Belt 10-30 0-24 5-6 5-0
Best nonconference record: Big East, 32-8.
Best record vs. BCS opponents: Big East, 11-7
Best record against non-BCS opponents: SEC, 24-1
Best record against I-AA opponents: SEC, 8-0
08-14-2007 06:53 AM
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RE: Right on schedule?
SO#1 Wrote:FILLING THE VOID

The breakdown of nonconference opponents in 2007 for the 11 Division I-A conferences:
BCS conferences Non-conf. games versus BCS versus non-BCS versus I-AA
Big 12 48 12 28 8
Southeastern 48 15 23 10
Atlantic Coast 48 22 19 7
Big Ten 44 13 24 7
Big East 40 16 18 6
Pacific-10 31 10 19 2
Totals 259 88 131 40
Non-BCS conferences
Mountain West 36 17 14 5
Conference USA 48 25 15 8
Western Athletic 37 17 10 10
Mid-American 58 40 9 9
Sun Belt 38 24 9 5
Totals 217 123 57 37


2006 COMPARISON
How the 11 Division I-A conferences fared in nonconference play last season:
Conference Non-conf. versus BCS versus non-BCS versus I-AA
Big 12 33-15 3-8 20-6 10-1
Big Ten 33-12 7-7 20-3 6-2
Atlantic Coast 29-19 4-12 17-6 8-1
Southeastern 41-7 9-6 24-1 8-0
Big East 32-8 11-7 15-1 6-0
Pacific-10 22-9 7-6 10-3 5-0
Mountain West 16-20 3-10 9-8 4-2
Western Athletic 18-20 4-14 7-6 7-0
Conference USA 20-28 4-22 9-6 7-0
Mid-American 14-34 4-29 7-4 3-1
Sun Belt 10-30 0-24 5-6 5-0
Best nonconference record: Big East, 32-8.
Best record vs. BCS opponents: Big East, 11-7
Best record against non-BCS opponents: SEC, 24-1
Best record against I-AA opponents: SEC, 8-0
Looking at the numbers, you can only conclude that The BEast's OOC SOS rankings are comparable to other conferences - and a lot better than a good many.
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08-14-2007 09:42 AM
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RE: Right on schedule?
CatsClaw Wrote:
Capital Pirate Wrote:Buyout clauses are included in contracts for a reason......SU exercising their right to enact theirs shows just as much.....

...at least in ECU's situation w/ SU, we lined up replacement games for them (Wake Forest) instead of leaving them high and dry.....so, they got paid the buyout amount - and they got replacement games.....no harm, no foul.....

Actually the game that got Syracuse out of that dilemma WAS NOT the Wake Forest game it was that game. Syracuse's then-AD Jake Crouthamel called up Cincinnati's then-AD Bob Goin desperately looking for a replacement game. Bob Goin and Jake Crouthamel then worked out a plan, since going into the season Cincinnati was set to play Top 25 Purdue and Syracuse playing no one we gave Syracuse the Purdue game and then went to the Carrier Dome to play the Orange. That is what fixed Syracuse's problem.

ECU's AD has told me personally that at the time we bought out the game, we scrambled in good faith and found not one, but 2 games for SU to replace our game with - with Wake Forest (home and away)......there was no "desperation" involved on anyone's part......this is an urban legend that has gotten twisted and contorted WAYYYYYY out of reality.....

...and matter of fact, we also had Ohio U. lined up as a "gimmie" replacement game for SU as well.....but after the Wake Forest deal was done, Ohio U. wasn't needed.....

Bottom line is that a contract clause was legally exercised, and a good faith effort was made (when it didn't have to be) to smooth over any hard feelings (!?) that were felt after the fact....and all is well now, without question......
08-14-2007 11:03 AM
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