GunnerFan Wrote:The BE could've done a lot of things. In the end they failed to know what their membership wanted and how to protect that.

The problem was a reactionary basketball-oriented commissioner, loyal to schools such as Seton Hall and St. Johns who had not figured out that it is football which counts most. He still hasn't.

David Krysakowski Wrote:Other than college baseball, football, and basketball people aren't going to watch the all college sports all the time.

I absolutely agree with you on that. And college baseball is much more niche outside of California and the South than basketball and football which are nationally appealing.

VENGER the BE administration is dumb because they did split and take memphis state.Are they also stupid because 1.they admitted UL,UC and SFLA 2.maintainted their bcs status 3. increased their tv package significantly 4.Add more non bcs bowls?

tigersharktwo Wrote:VENGER the BE administration is dumb because they did split and take memphis state.Are they also stupid because 1.they admitted UL,UC and SFLA 2.maintainted their bcs status 3. increased their tv package significantly 4.Add more non bcs bowls?

No, they are stupid because they keep Tranghese. Are you on drugs or merely dyslexic?

Great, Venger you hate MT and you hate me.But ,MT runs the league .The BE accomplishments I mentioned belong to him.

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bluesox Wrote:I still think the best move mike T, nd, and the hoop school's can make to save the league is to expand to 18 teams, 1 bball only and 1 all sports, than split into two bball divisions based on geography. Under those conditions, the best teams are Memphis and St.Louis U and i'd make these invites sometime next spring, maybe after memphis wins a hoop title. If the big 10 did make a move for a big east school, you got an easy replacement in central flordia.

The problem is--would adding Memphis, or ECU, or UCF or any other CUSA program cause a Rutgers or Syracuse to want to remain a member of the Big East conference? Money is the issue. The other BCS conferences can offer more money--and if the B Televen gets a BE school such as Rutgers, ALOT more money. I just don't see how adding a school such as Memphis would generate enough revenue for the BE to make an SU or Rutgers turn down an invite where they'll make over $10million more per year. No, the hybrid can't just keep adding team after team after team to still be the 6th best BCS league with the 6th best payout. IF all schools really want to stay together, then they'll have to become proactive and raid other BCS conferences for cities and programs that could bring BE schools up to par money wise with the other BCS conferences.

If the B Televen can try and lure Rutgers or Syracuse, why can't the BE first try to lure PSU, ND, Maryland, Kentucky, UNC, BC or any combination of 4 BCS teams that would boost the revenues up to the same level as a Big Televen or ACC or SEC. If that were possilbe reasons for the BCS not to join diminish.

Because it's all about $$$$ and the BE has less of it than the ACC, SEC, and Big 10.... No one is going to walk away from 9 or 10 mil per year to get 5.

There is a very good chance that the Big East will get and even BIGGER contract the next time around so that may not be true in a few years. With the new contract kicking in the Big East could be getting 7 to 8 million per year. People always conveniently ignore that fact.

Yes...future Big East Contracts will probably continue to get better and more profitable...but so will all the other BCS conferences as well.

It might be very hard for the Big East to "steal" a team away from the Big 10, ACC or SEC in the future.

Don't you think it's kind of hard for the BE to "steal" a team from the SEC, ACC, and Big 10 right now? This is why the BE will target CUSA because it isn't as hard to do so.

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David Krysakowski Wrote:Other than college baseball, football, and basketball people aren't going to watch the all college sports all the time.

I absolutely agree with you on that. And college baseball is much more niche outside of California and the South than basketball and football which are nationally appealing.

I agree, also. Spot on David.

tigersharktwo Wrote:Great, Venger you hate MT and you hate me.But ,MT runs the league .The BE accomplishments I mentioned belong to him.

Did a tree fall in the woods?

KnightLight Wrote:

CatsClaw Wrote:

goodknightfl Wrote:

buckaineer Wrote:

bluesox Wrote:I still think the best move mike T, nd, and the hoop school's can make to save the league is to expand to 18 teams, 1 bball only and 1 all sports, than split into two bball divisions based on geography. Under those conditions, the best teams are Memphis and St.Louis U and i'd make these invites sometime next spring, maybe after memphis wins a hoop title. If the big 10 did make a move for a big east school, you got an easy replacement in central flordia.

The problem is--would adding Memphis, or ECU, or UCF or any other CUSA program cause a Rutgers or Syracuse to want to remain a member of the Big East conference? Money is the issue. The other BCS conferences can offer more money--and if the B Televen gets a BE school such as Rutgers, ALOT more money. I just don't see how adding a school such as Memphis would generate enough revenue for the BE to make an SU or Rutgers turn down an invite where they'll make over $10million more per year. No, the hybrid can't just keep adding team after team after team to still be the 6th best BCS league with the 6th best payout. IF all schools really want to stay together, then they'll have to become proactive and raid other BCS conferences for cities and programs that could bring BE schools up to par money wise with the other BCS conferences.

If the B Televen can try and lure Rutgers or Syracuse, why can't the BE first try to lure PSU, ND, Maryland, Kentucky, UNC, BC or any combination of 4 BCS teams that would boost the revenues up to the same level as a Big Televen or ACC or SEC. If that were possilbe reasons for the BCS not to join diminish.

Because it's all about $$$$ and the BE has less of it than the ACC, SEC, and Big 10.... No one is going to walk away from 9 or 10 mil per year to get 5.

There is a very good chance that the Big East will get and even BIGGER contract the next time around so that may not be true in a few years. With the new contract kicking in the Big East could be getting 7 to 8 million per year. People always conveniently ignore that fact.

Yes...future Big East Contracts will probably continue to get better and more profitable...but so will all the other BCS conferences as well.

It might be very hard for the Big East to "steal" a team away from the Big 10, ACC or SEC in the future.

Things change. 10 years ago the ACC wasn't much better then the current Big East and no one thought that the ACC could lure a team from another BCS conference. 6 years later they took teams from the Big East and almost lured another team from the SEC (South Carolina). Heck, 3 years ago you and others were ripping the Big East's football teams, our ability to keep the Gator Bowl and BCS bid, and television contract. Now we have the Gator AND Sun Bowl in a package, easily kept our BCS bid, and have a quarter of a billion dollar television package. Things change.