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Observer Wrote:So, you are saying that the difference between my posts and GGniner's are that mine were cut and paste and his were liinks?

If that is the only difference that you see, you've got bigger problems than me telling you to cool it.

His link is reporting on a recent report, whether is true or not is up in the air, but the fact remains that it is a recent story that has been reported.

Your screed above is just an unloading of tripe that has no direct connection to anything else in this thread. It is an eyesore and from what little of it I read, none of it is a recent event. The entire point to even posting it from what I can tell is just to derail the thread, which has apparently worked.

Like I said before, if you are truly interested in debating the holocaust, or any other conspiracy theory head over to James Randi's forums. They specialize in that kind of thing.
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GG isn't a racist. You are.
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Are you saying I should not be able to respond to outlandish, hateful posts because I hate a country that viciously attacked a U. S. Naval vessel, killing 34 shipmates, and seriously injuring hundreds more?
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Since I dug this thread up, I'd like to point out that even Yon has since backed off his claim a bit.

To me it continues to sound like an urban legend. There have been multiple instance of similar stories throughout history. Unless there is some kind of evidence to verify the story, it is difficult to believe that the facts are all in line. In addition there are plenty of verified atrocities hat have been and are being committed by the fundamentalist Muslims that we don't need to become overly credulous to such claims in order to justify our disgust with their activities.
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I may be missing it, be were is he "backing off a bit" on this story?

this is what I read, Yon:

Quote:Every syllable I wrote about this reported incident was in that paragraph, which offers no opinion about the veracity of his words.

Mr. Abdul Jabar had lived near the al Hamari village. He had more details about what happened there, and he was willing to go on the record. The reported incidents, wretching though they were and are, were reported “as is.”

When context is other people’s children
As I write these words just a few miles from the graves I saw, the resulting controversy about whether what the man said was true, or whether his words should have been written if the writer couldn’t verify them, seems precious. There is no imaginary line of credulity that al Qaeda might cross should it go from beheading children to baking them.

No unnamed Iraqi stringer claimed that al Qaeda had taken over Baqubah. Al Qaeda said this through the press. I sit writing these words in Diyala Province just a short drive from where the self-proclaimed leader of al Qaeda in Iraq was killed by a bomb delivered by a US warplane. Al Qaeda: the organization that gleefully bragged about murdering roughly 3,000 people by smashing jets full of civilians into buildings and earth. Al Qaeda in Iraq: who proudly broadcast their penchant for sawing off the heads of living breathing people, and in such a manner as to ensure lots of spurting blood and gurgles of final pain, in some cases with the added flourish of the executioner raising up the severed head and squealing excitedly.

These are the same terrorists I often come face to face with: not on television or in magazines, but on bloodstained streets ablaze with human carnage. I remember the charred corpse of a small Iraqi boy. I remember the wailing Iraqi parents and countless other scenes that I am likely to see again and again. Back in 2005, terrorists here were intentionally attacking children. I shot the photo below on a day when they drove a car bomb through a crowd of children who had run out to American soldiers on patrol.
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Quote:In the more than two years since that awful day in May 2005, I’ve witnessed innumerable instances of the work of terrorists of many stripes. One clear indicator of just how bad a terrorist group is, is when battle-hardened soldiers—and writers like me who travel with them—don’t find it hard to believe a story which purports that al Qaeda had baked a child and set his roasted body out as the main course at a lunch for his parents.

People at home might find it incredible, improbable, even impossible. Yet here in combat with al Qaeda, the idea is no more improbable-sounding than someone saying “The chicken crossed the road.” Maybe the chicken crossed the road. Maybe not. The veterans I’ve been talking with here have no difficulty imagining the chicken crossing the road, or al Qaeda roasting kids. Sickening, yes. Improbable, no.

perhaps in the last paragraph but i read it more like, "this is what the translator reported to us and none of us found it hard to beleive based off everything we've seen AQ do the last few years here.


this thread could use a image of Cartman but I will refrain for obvious reasons.
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Basically the first part.

Quote:Every syllable I wrote about this reported incident was in that paragraph, which offers no opinion about the veracity of his words.

He's reporting what was told to him and admitting that he has no evidence that it happened other than that's how it was told to him, and he says that he's credulous enough to report it as if it happened if though he admits to not having evidence for it. I said he backed off the report, not that he withdrew it.
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ah, I think its more like he explained it since it got some pub. You could get that from the initial report, what the tranlator told him coupled with the mass graves they did find lends it credibility.

to me, nothing AQ is reported to have done is suprising for same reason's he mentions and world history on stuff like this.
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world history on stuff like this?
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barbaric acts, Cannibalism, things like the Nazi's taking the fat from the Jews in Holocaust and turning it into Soap. That type of stuff, heck it wasn't that long ago that in countries like Britain the Kings had their enemies killed and cut their bodies up and took and spread the parts out all over the country to scare the population and show their power, William Wallace of Braveheart fame comes to mind(the real guy).

I have a pressuposition that Al-Qaeda is capable of absolutely anything, I formed it after 9/11 and subsequent events. I'm not sure anything will every change that.
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Worse is happening in Darfur.

But it's not our job to b e the international policemen of the world. We can't afford it anymore.
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georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:Worse is happening in Darfur.

But it's not our job to b e the international policemen of the world. We can't afford it anymore.

We didn't go into Iraq to free the Iraqi people. That was just a side effect.
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GGniner Wrote:barbaric acts, Cannibalism, things like the Nazi's taking the fat from the Jews in Holocaust and turning it into Soap. That type of stuff, heck it wasn't that long ago that in countries like Britain the Kings had their enemies killed and cut their bodies up and took and spread the parts out all over the country to scare the population and show their power, William Wallace of Braveheart fame comes to mind(the real guy).

I have a pressuposition that Al-Qaeda is capable of absolutely anything, I formed it after 9/11 and subsequent events. I'm not sure anything will every change that.

OK, valid points. And I will admit that certainly it is possible that what was reported is occuring. I'm positive that barbaric acts are happening to some degree. Yes, children are being killed in order to "persude" parents into doing things. And the so called honor killings is typical of medieval society.

But there is also world history that seems to show that charges of cannibalism have been level at people (Catholics, Jews, etc...) in order to demonize them. Like the ones I linked above. Without any real hard forensic evidence (bodies, ovens that have been determined to be used to cook human flesh), it's hard to say what really happened.
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