Sophandros Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

Sophandros Wrote:Please tell me where I typed the words, "Acting white". Seriously, if you want for this or any other discussion to continue, please tell me where I stated--or even implied--that someone is "acting white" or should "act Black". Because I don't believe in (actually, I abhor and despise) stereotypes, please tell me what "acting white" is and "acting Black" is. Unless, of course, you would agree with me that it would be better to drop the subject.

Regardless of whether you want to drop that line, I said NOTHING of the sort, and your implication that I said anythign remotely like that is, at best, insulting.

Anyway, what you typed above, however, IS the sort of thing that I'm talking about, which is that your paragraph essentially says, "Know your place, boy." Johnson got in trouble for it. Ali got in trouble for it. TO is getting in trouble for it.

Oh whatever, Soph. There were two sides to the TO situation. They either sided with TO, or they sided with McNabb. BOTH are black and it has nothing to do with color. It has to do with attitude. Know your place? In a way, yes, because it is essentially, "know which side youre bread is buttered on". This has not a damn thing to do with color. YOU made it about race. Not me.

What's funny is that recently, word out of Philly is that McNabb was the problem, not Owens, but the team wouldn't turn its back on Donovan.

Owens is opinionated and unafraid to speak his mind. For this, he is branded as a lot of things by the media, few of which are true or deserved. You have to ask yourself why that happens, or why guys like Jack Johnson, Muhammed Ali, Jim Brown, and others have received grief for commiting the crime of being outspoken.

There have been MANY times that I've read and heard people say that if TO would just keep his mouth shut, they'd be fans of his. Someone on this thread questioned his work ethic, even though that's the furthest thing from the truth.

I've seen it said many times that "these athletes should be grateful for what they have" about a Black athlete in a contract dispute, but almost never about a white athlete in a contract dispute. That's a holdover in our culture from a more overtly racist era.

Your denial of the existence of racism--even in sport (where you would THINK that it's a meritocracy)--is a huge part of the problem in this country. Race and racial issues are the elephant in our living room that we're afraid to deal with.

Now, that said, I have to repeat that Sheffield was off-base with his comments, and that he should be focusing his energy on trying to convince the Black community to embrace baseball again and promote the game among Black youths.

Race isn't the white elephant Soph. It's only people like you trying to create the illusion of a white elephant when there isn't really one there. The damage done (to you) is that by blaming someone else for your problems you retard your own developement--financially, emotionally and spiritually. Jessie Jackson may have money now, but one day he may be forced to pay the 10 million in back taxes he defrauded the feds on. JJ is still an emotional little child and spiritually he's no more saved than your pet lizard IMHO. If he is among the redeamed, he will received no reward for his work which has been nothing short of blackmail and using people for his own gain. There's a price to pay for having a "it's all the white man's fault" kind of attitude like you have.

And Jim Brown and Ali were both stupid Muslims with stupid anti-white attitudes and that's why they are regarded as whack jobs that both of them really are! The sports media always tries to paint them as heros though.

How Ali's autobiographers reinvented him:

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48722