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Duhon can't carry Blake's jock in a suitcase.

Duhon is by far the most overrated college player I have seen in the past 10 years.
03-12-2002 05:22 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nate jonesacc:
Drunkterp, Chris Duhon will be our 3rd, possibly 4th scoring option next year. Blake will more than likely be your 2nd. Plus, we don't need Duhon to score, he hasn't been that great a scorer this year or last, and look where it got us.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">blake will be our second scorer??? what insane-o world are you from? nicholas and wilcox will easily be our top scorers (provided wilcox returns). randle and jamar smith will average as much if not more than blake....so yeah, 2nd scorer, 5th scorer, same difference.

thats besides the point though, a freakin dookie complaining about overhyped perceptions with the exact same argument that was used for why duhon would be so great all last summer, is, at the least, rather humorous. especially when their argument is completely backwards, since blake scored all his points in a fairly tight game with a state team that was playing incredible defense.
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I think that you are from the "insane-o world" if you think that Jamar Smith and Ryan Randle will be more of the go-to-guys as far as scoring goes. I could see your argument for Nicholas, but you are crazy if you think that Smith and Randle will be better scoring options for you next year.
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Have you even watched Randle play this year? That guy definitely looks like he could pump in 10-15 if given 25-30 minutes a game.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Liquid Karma:
Duhon can't carry Blake's jock in a suitcase.

Duhon is by far the most overrated college player I have seen in the past 10 years.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Blake can't play against Duhon. Look at his stats Duhon took Blake completely out of his game in the Final Four last year. He made him play where he wanted him to play. Duhon owns Blake!
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Based on the last game Duke and UM played I would say your statement about Duhon owning Blake is damn wrong.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nate jonesacc:
I think that you are from the "insane-o world" if you think that Jamar Smith and Ryan Randle will be more of the go-to-guys as far as scoring goes. I could see your argument for Nicholas, but you are crazy if you think that Smith and Randle will be better scoring options for you next year.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dunleavy better be ready to get a healthy dose of Jamar Smith's nuts in his face when he is dunking all over him next year, Dookie. Randle will indeed be one of our top scoring options next year as well, and tell me this...who does Duke have to stop him next year, huh? (Sanders?) <img border="0" alt="[Laughing]" title="" src="graemlins/laughing.gif" />
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LK, that's ludicrous. Duhon is 2nd in steals (1 behind Dunleavy), 3rd in assists, and 2nd in ass/turnover ratio in the ACC. He also averages 9 ppg, even when asked not to be a scorer. That's not too shabby in my book. Sure his jumper hasn't been falling this year, but calling him the most overhyped player in the last 10 years in the ACC is ridiculous.
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DT2, we don't even have to guard him, he isn't a threat to us.

Seriously though, Shelden Williams, Michael Thompson, Shavlik Randolph and Casey Sanders should be able to take care of that.
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Considering he was annointed the 2nd best guard in the country by the dumbasses at ESPN I would say he certainly is the most overhyped player I have seen in the last decade.

Considering the hype that kid has received he should be dropping 25 a game and 10 dimes, but he isn't. That's why I call him OVER-FACKING-HYPED.

Name another player who has received as much national hype as Duhon yet been so mediocre in comparison with his lofty expectations.
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They better keep Shelden away from Reggie when he's drunk.

<small>[ March 12, 2002, 05:50 PM: Message edited by: nate jonesacc ]</small>
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Chris Burgess for one, and I am too young to know any before him. If you want to go nationally, then Eric Chenowith, Kenny Gregory and Felipe Lopez off of the top of my head.
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OK, I may give you Felipe Lopez.

None of the others you listed were afforded the undeserved national acclaim Duhon has been given.

It's one think to be a hyped freshman and then not live up to expectations. It's another to be a mediocre backup one year and then be anointed the 2nd best point guard in the country the next.

<small>[ March 12, 2002, 05:54 PM: Message edited by: Liquid Karma ]</small>
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You won't give me Kenny Gregory???? This guy was called the next MJ, and was given the same labels Lopez was. Chenowith was supposed to lead KU to another title or two, and look what happened to him.
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Neither Gregory nor Chenowith received anywhere near the national attention Duhon did after a nondescript freshman season.

In fact Chenowith was so pathetic that CNNSI ran a weekly update of how much he was hurting Kansas.
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Chenowith got that "Chenowith watch" thing because he was such a failure after all of the hype he got. Gregory was the same way.

What is happening is that you are exagerrating Duhon's overestimation because it is happening in the present, and underestimating other players overestimation because it's hard to recall all of the details from that time. (hope you caught all of those "estimations" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> )

It's the same way, when you come home from a great movie, you always think "that was my favorite movie", because it's fresh in your mind.
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No, I am voicing my opinion of Duhon's drastically overhyped ass not because it is happening in the present but because it is atrocious.

I don't recall Gregory or Chenowith ever being called the best or second best anything while in college.

Duhon would do well to have the career Gregory ended up having.

I think you are unable to look at this without your dookie glasses on.
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Chenowith was called the preseason player of the year !! Look what happened!

Duhon would do great to make it to the NBDL? Tell that to the scouts.
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Chenowith was called preseason POY by who? He was a nominee for preseason POY along with 29 other players. Coincidentally, Duhon was given the same nomination this season despite not being a starter last season.

Like I said, Duhon would be lucky to have the college career that Gregory had, which culminated in an honorable mention AA nod his senior season.
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Chenowith was called preseason NPOY by many nat'l publications.

Gregory was supposed to be Jordan. He wasn't. Duhon was supposed to be Williams. So far, he hasn't been.

Jordan > Williams
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