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May Day is often viewed as a semi "holiday" for socialists and trade unions. Some teens decided to partake in a fun May Day ritual... by intentionally seeking out a random white kid and <a href='http://www.cleveland.com/search/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1055583495271973.xml?ncounty_cuyahoga' target='_blank'>beating her up. </a>

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One side-note: Imagine if the racial makeup of the kids were reversed in that article. Think it would've made media headlines beyond just the local Cleveland paper?
06-19-2003 01:19 AM
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Its sad no matter which race is doing it, but I don't imagine it would have been any bigger then that recent georgia white kids only prom headline
06-19-2003 05:33 AM
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SSJT Wrote:Its sad no matter which race is doing it, but I don't imagine it would have been any bigger then that recent georgia white kids only prom headline
You mean private party held by Georgia white kids. Awww......I bet it kills you that they have the freedom to associate with whomever they choose. How in the HELL do you compare a child getting beat up to a private party?


By the way, black people do it all the time.........do I sense a bit of hypocrisy?
06-19-2003 07:26 AM
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SSJT Wrote:Its sad no matter which race is doing it, but I don't imagine it would have been any bigger then that recent georgia white kids only prom headline
On the contrary, the prom story made it to such outlets as CNN, FoxNews, MTV, and even the BBC. Which in itself is strange since there are already countless self-segregated functions, parties, graduations, beauty contests, clubs, sororities, etc, in existence today. And even though we may scorn upon these separatist functions, the prom was privately held and not endorsed by the school. In other words, the secondary prom
06-19-2003 09:12 AM
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RebelKev Wrote:
SSJT Wrote:Its sad no matter which race is doing it, but I don't imagine it would have been any bigger then that recent georgia white kids only prom headline
You mean private party held by Georgia white kids. Awww......I bet it kills you that they have the freedom to associate with whomever they choose. How in the HELL do you compare a child getting beat up to a private party?


By the way, black people do it all the time.........do I sense a bit of hypocrisy?
You really love twisting around what I say, don't you RebelKev.


I wasn't comparing the two events directly, not comparing someone getting beat up to a private segregated party, I was comparing them as to how much news coverage it would have received. The Georgia story was known nationwide, but it was gone after a couple weeks -- I think the same thing would have happened with the situation Motown gave. Both involve race and have negative implications to blacks in society, and although one is definitely WORSE then the other (a child getting beat up) I doubt the news coverage would have been much different. That's what I'm trying to say.


And it does kill me when a group of kids completely block out another group simply because of race. I know every race does it, and those that block out white kids SHOULD receive coverage as well, just like the georgia incident, because its the same exact thing.
06-19-2003 01:11 PM
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So you are against someone's right to associate with whomever they choose and if it happens to be JUST the same race or sex, then the press should be notified? Man, what country do you live in? I happen to like freedom here.
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SSJT Wrote:
RebelKev Wrote:
SSJT Wrote:Its sad no matter which race is doing it, but I don't imagine it would have been any bigger then that recent georgia white kids only prom headline
You mean private party held by Georgia white kids. Awww......I bet it kills you that they have the freedom to associate with whomever they choose. How in the HELL do you compare a child getting beat up to a private party?


By the way, black people do it all the time.........do I sense a bit of hypocrisy?
You really love twisting around what I say, don't you RebelKev.
That's all he does. He won't understand what you say... so he'll twist it and put words in your mouth.
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nate jonesacc Wrote:
SSJT Wrote:
RebelKev Wrote:
SSJT Wrote:Its sad no matter which race is doing it, but I don't imagine it would have been any bigger then that recent georgia white kids only prom headline
You mean private party held by Georgia white kids. Awww......I bet it kills you that they have the freedom to associate with whomever they choose. How in the HELL do you compare a child getting beat up to a private party?


By the way, black people do it all the time.........do I sense a bit of hypocrisy?
You really love twisting around what I say, don't you RebelKev.
That's all he does. He won't understand what you say... so he'll twist it and put words in your mouth.
Kev has a problem listening to others. Its simply a waste to post with him, as when he is finally beaten down and the truth is shoved down his throat, he will resort to personal attacks about a persons age.

Obviously, if you were so wise because of your years Kev, you wouldnt need to make an ****** of yourself by taking over threads and picking on someone because they are younger.

Your true character has been shown in the last few days, and its rather depressing. All they were trying to do is let people become a bit more personal, as often people only post about subjects and dont learn about the people behind the handles, and you jump all over the fact that Nate is 16.
06-19-2003 02:26 PM
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bigolhawg Wrote:Its simply a waste to post with him, as when he is finally beaten down and the truth is shoved down his throat, he will resort to personal attacks about a persons age.
Ok, what truth?
06-19-2003 02:28 PM
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bigolhawg Wrote:Your true character has been shown in the last few days, and its rather depressing. All they were trying to do is let people become a bit more personal, as often people only post about subjects and dont learn about the people behind the handles, and you jump all over the fact that Nate is 16.
When he sits there and calls me stupid, says I don't know anything about the world and other countries, says I'm the most ignorant person in the world, etc. (All juvenile remarks), I will......and get this through your thick, liberal head, DEFEND MYSELF.

Now, since you injected yourself into the mix, I guess you're fair game as well. You see, you are liberal, don't like me, and are biased as hell. Hence the reason you didn't pick up on anything Nate has said about me. With this said, your opinion doesn't mean a damn thing. Go moderate something.
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RebelKev Wrote:So you are against someone's right to associate with whomever they choose and if it happens to be JUST the same race or sex, then the press should be notified? Man, what country do you live in? I happen to like freedom here.
I believe that simply ignoring an occurrence where racial discrimination is present doesn't help to get rid of it. Once again, you put words in my mouth. (could you STOP doing that?) I'm not AGAINST someone's right to associate. They can still HAVE the right to do it, I just think people should know about it when it happens.
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RebelKev Wrote:
bigolhawg Wrote:Its simply a waste to post with him, as when he is finally beaten down and the truth is shoved down his throat, he will resort to personal attacks about a persons age.
Ok, what truth?
That Jimmy Carter was a nuclear engineer, I've traveled a bit in my 16 years, Israel does target women and children... just for starters.

And BigolHawg... glad to know someone is out there with a brain! :D 04-cheers
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SSJT Wrote:I'm not AGAINST someone's right to associate. They can still HAVE the right to do it, I just think people should know about it when it happens.
Do you realize how dangerous and detrimental to individual freedom this statement is? Lemme guess, are you for Ashcroft's spying programs as well?


.....and why is it discrimination when a group of white, or black people get together? That's a first. Some white people don't like cRap and most black people don't like country. By your analogy, when I go to my friends house and hang out in his bar with the guys, who are all white, I am discriminating. ....but against who? Should I invite a "Token" black guy to fulfill you requirements of diversity?
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[quote="RebelKev"] [quote="SSJT"] I'm not AGAINST someone's right to associate.
06-19-2003 07:40 PM
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SSJT Wrote:But, if something like what is usually an official school function is broken apart and a group of one race forms their own private function, barring another race from entering, it just seems to me like the press should pick up on it.
That is detrimental to individual freedom.
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For someone who seems so devoted to personal freedom... what do you think about all the checkpoints in the West Bank and harrassment by Israeli soldiers?
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nate jonesacc Wrote:For someone who seems so devoted to personal freedom... what do you think about all the checkpoints in the West Bank and harrassment by Israeli soldiers?
Security. Look dude, I don't want to see innocents being killed, but I think the Palestinians are more to blame than the Israelis. Here's a link of Israel trying to bring resolution...again:

<a href='http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,89848,00.html' target='_blank'>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,89848,00.html</a>

..the Israeli government IS freaking trying. Let's see what type of monkeywrench Hamas, et. al. tries to throw into it as they don't want to see an Israel.


...and wanna know why I think you are too young? Because you haven't brought up the USS Liberty. That's a sore subject for Americans.

That's ammunition I can't defend against.
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RebelKev, in one of your posts you said that some white people don't like rap and some black people don't like country...this statement is true. But there are Black people that like country and White people that like rap. The point is individuals shouldn't pick and choose who attends what party. If a group of people say were going to have a gathering and ONLY one type of people are allowed to attend, then there is something wrong with that.
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RUmojo Wrote:But there are Black people that like country and White people that like rap. The point is individuals shouldn't pick and choose who attends what party. If a group of people say were going to have a gathering and ONLY one type of people are allowed to attend, then there is something wrong with that.
True, but should they be "Exposed to the media" as some would suggest?


In that case, it doesn't MATTER what color they are because ALL do it.
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