We are all still arguing on whether this war was necessary. We should be asking ourselves at this point, how have we (Americans) benefitted.

KlutzDio I Wrote:We are all still arguing on whether this war was necessary. We should be asking ourselves at this point, how have we (Americans) benefitted.

You left out some possible answers.

*I may be able to pay less for gas (for a while).

*Possibly a few current/future terrorists got their @$$es torched.

*An evil dictator that MIGHT support terrorists in their attempt to kill Americans has been captured.

*An evil dictator that attepmted to assasinate a previous President is no longer a threat to anyone, but a bunch of Lice.

*An under-appreciated spider, finally got his hole back. (PETA should be pleased)

*Who cares as long as we have 4 more years of Bush/Cheney.

*Cheney's undisclosed location is being used to hold Saddam.

*LSU is going to kick it to the OKIE Sooners.

Gray, I'll take your points one by one.

1. Gas in my area is averaging about $1.65 per gallon, more than when the terrorists flew planes into our buildings and about the same as it was in Feb. of 03. Waging war to lower our gas prices just might influence another generation of Muslims to hate us. Also, waging war so we rank-and-file Americans can guzzle some more gas, cheaply, is a poor reason to wage war (and it contradicts American values).
2. Actually, there's been more terrorist attacks in Iraq now that we've kicked Saddam off his pedestal and have gained "control" of that nation.
3. There are other evil dictators out there. Are we going to go after them all? And, how could Saddam threaten us while we were watching every move he made? How could Saddam threaten us if we destroyed 80% of his military in the first Gulf War?
You know, my neighbor threatened me the other day but everyone in my community knows he has psychiatric problems. Were Saddam's threats real? Or, were they the actions of a madman? What do you mean exactly (the term 'threat')?
And, you emphasized might in your point three and there are many MIGHTS out there. Japan MIGHT bomb Pearl Harbour again. Are we going to drop bombs on them? Putin MIGHT be as bad as Stalin, are we going to bomb Moscow?
My insurance MIGHT go up again this year, are we going to bomb San Francisco?
We can't formulate a foreign policy on conditionals. Think of it this way, you MIGHT rape and kill in the next few days so your local police should lock you up. How do you like that conditional?
4. Why did we wait until 2003 to exact revenge on Saddam? He attempted to take Bush Sr.'s life years ago. Why did we wait until this year to do something about it? And, if that was one of the justifications for this war, why didn't Bush Jr. tell us he was going to get revenge on Saddam when he was campaigning for the presidency?
5. I consider the spider hole remark to be facetious and unworthy of response.
6. Four more years of Bush/Cheney will mean that my insurance rates will go up yet again. And that sucks!
7. Why have Cheney rat-holed away? After all, he's the one calling the shots!
8. Lastly, I'd hate to play Oklahoma when they are coming off their only butt-whipping of the year! Geaux Sooners!

KlutzDio I Wrote:Gray, I'll take your points one by one.

1. Gas in my area is averaging about $1.65 per gallon, more than when the terrorists flew planes into our buildings and about the same as it was in Feb. of 03. Waging war to lower our gas prices just might influence another generation of Muslims to hate us. Also, waging war so we rank-and-file Americans can guzzle some more gas, cheaply, is a poor reason to wage war (and it contradicts American values).
2. Actually, there's been more terrorist attacks in Iraq now that we've kicked Saddam off his pedestal and have gained "control" of that nation.
3. There are other evil dictators out there. Are we going to go after them all? And, how could Saddam threaten us while we were watching every move he made? How could Saddam threaten us if we destroyed 80% of his military in the first Gulf War?
You know, my neighbor threatened me the other day but everyone in my community knows he has psychiatric problems. Were Saddam's threats real? Or, were they the actions of a madman? What do you mean exactly (the term 'threat')?
And, you emphasized might in your point three and there are many MIGHTS out there. Japan MIGHT bomb Pearl Harbour again. Are we going to drop bombs on them? Putin MIGHT be as bad as Stalin, are we going to bomb Moscow?
My insurance MIGHT go up again this year, are we going to bomb San Francisco?
We can't formulate a foreign policy on conditionals. Think of it this way, you MIGHT rape and kill in the next few days so your local police should lock you up. How do you like that conditional?
4. Why did we wait until 2003 to exact revenge on Saddam? He attempted to take Bush Sr.'s life years ago. Why did we wait until this year to do something about it? And, if that was one of the justifications for this war, why didn't Bush Jr. tell us he was going to get revenge on Saddam when he was campaigning for the presidency?
5. I consider the spider hole remark to be facetious and unworthy of response.
6. Four more years of Bush/Cheney will mean that my insurance rates will go up yet again. And that sucks!
7. Why have Cheney rat-holed away? After all, he's the one calling the shots!
8. Lastly, I'd hate to play Oklahoma when they are coming off their only butt-whipping of the year! Geaux Sooners!

Sorry about your insurance, but I don't think you can blame all of your insurance problems on terrorism.

My answers were all intended to be facetious/humorous, but I can see that you did not get it.

Look UP, Quick!

GrayBeard Wrote:*I may be able to pay less for gas (for a while).

I somehow remember paying less for gas BEFORE we invaded Iraq, but that's another debate for another time..

I know Graybeard and you made me laugh with your first response. I'm here to be funny and political at the same time. And, it's much more interesting to post on this site rather than doing my job.

And, I didn't mean to insinuate that my insurance rates went up as a result of terrorism, actually I've progressively paid more each year on insurance since 1988 when I was 18 years old. This is a lifelong thing and I'm sick of it.

My taxes are rather low (about 25% of my income) but my insurance expenditures are like a tax because you are giving money to people and receiving effectively nothing in return for your payments. I'm peeved more over skyrocketing insurance rates than taxes being that insurance payments chew up 56% of my annual income.

Insurance is also like a tax in that some CEO somewhere is driving his golf-cart around some Florida links wondering whether or not to use a nine-iron or a wedge on the next shot: and he's worrying about that on my dime!

Do any of your realize that the insurance lobby is the most powerful and wealthiest political action committee in the United States?

KlutzDio I Wrote:1. Gas in my area is averaging about $1.65 per gallon,

Now you know that's a crock KD, unless you are buying premium.

It might not be a crock. I know for a fact that gas in Long Island is usually aroung $1.80. I also know that since we went into Iraq, gas is steadily coming down around here.

flyingswoosh Wrote:It might not be a crock.  I know for a fact that gas in Long Island is usually aroung $1.80.  I also know that since we went into Iraq, gas is steadily coming down around here.

Long Island=New York=Way to many liberals=extreme conservation whackos=high fuel taxes=high gas prices!

exactly, which means it doesn't always have a lot to do with the war. I just get the feeling that gas prices everywhere are coming down.

RebelKev Wrote:1. Gas in my area is averaging about $1.65 per gallon,

Now you know that's a crock KD, unless you are buying premium. [/quote]
Taking the low octane price and the mid-grade octane price and the high-octane price and averaging them together and you come out with $1.65 per gallon (most of all the stations around Ridgeland have the same gas prices, maybe a penny difference, but generally the same).

Premium is $1.78 per gallon at the local BP. I filled up yesterday and I use premium because Pontiac says that my car is calibrated for premium gas. My pickup truck, on the other hand, is calibrated for regular, low-octane gas.