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Kev, you gonna talk about how you condone the killing of a Christian?
01-27-2004 02:58 PM
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Couldn't have seen it said better...

"Theological motifs central to Christianity also support pacifism. For one, since life is sacred and a gift from God, no individual has the right to take it. This divine source of life leads directly to the brotherhood of all persons and their divinely given purpose of living for God as his children. With every human being then either actually or potentially a child of God, no Christian may take the life of a fellow member of the family of God. The presence of the kingdom of God on earth similarly links all persons under God's rule and therefore proscribes violence toward anyone."
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nate jonesacc Wrote:Couldn't have seen it said better...

"Theological motifs central to Christianity also support pacifism. For one, since life is sacred and a gift from God, no individual has the right to take it. This divine source of life leads directly to the brotherhood of all persons and their divinely given purpose of living for God as his children. With every human being then either actually or potentially a child of God, no Christian may take the life of a fellow member of the family of God. The presence of the kingdom of God on earth similarly links all persons under God's rule and therefore proscribes violence toward anyone."
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That is why I take no sides when it comes to politics. That is the side I take and live by, as all true Christians do as well.
01-27-2004 03:59 PM
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nate jonesacc Wrote:
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nate jonesacc Wrote:[quote="RebelKev"] [quote="nate jonesacc"] I know him quite well and I know what he believes and what he doesn't. This man is WIDELY regarded as one of the most knowledgable Christian theologians in the entire world... He knows the Bible much better than you do, has been teaching theology for decades... How can you not care what he thinks?
My girlfriend works for Dr. Charles Howell......Charles Howell III's father. You know, the famous golfer. Does that make me an authority on golf? Does it improve my game? Hell no. It don't matter who the hell you know.

Face it Nate, you don't know ******.
You don't understand. This man, my father and other theologians have taught me almost everything I know. Everything I talk about is what they have taught me. In essence, you are disagreeing with some of the country's most knowledgable theologians.
Actually in essence, he is disagreeing with a child who although privileged enough to receive theological lessons from some of the
01-28-2004 01:40 AM
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[quote="nate jonesacc"] [quote="GABrat"] [quote="nate jonesacc"] [quote="flyingswoosh"] [quote="cbfranchise3"] There are three types of Christians in the US.

1. Those who have a personal relationship with God, Jesus, and the holy spirit.
01-28-2004 01:46 AM
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nate jonesacc Wrote:Kev, you gonna talk about how you condone the killing of a Christian?
What difference does it make if he is Christian or not? While on earth, they will be judged by man's law; religious affiliation has nothing to do with it and you should know that. God will judge their soul. No-one else. Not you. Not me. Not Kevin.

So tell me Nate, you condone the killing of non-Christians?
01-28-2004 01:52 AM
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GABrat Wrote:
nate jonesacc Wrote:Kev, you gonna talk about how you condone the killing of a Christian?
What difference does it make if he is Christian or not? While on earth, they will be judged by man's law; religious affiliation has nothing to do with it and you should know that. God will judge their soul. No-one else. Not you. Not me. Not Kevin.

So tell me Nate, you condone the killing of non-Christians?
It makes all the difference in the world! How the hell can you justly kill a child of God?

I am a pacifist. I don't condone the killing of any human.
01-28-2004 11:08 AM
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[quote="GABrat"] [quote="nate jonesacc"] [quote="GABrat"] [quote="nate jonesacc"] [quote="flyingswoosh"] [quote="cbfranchise3"] There are three types of Christians in the US.

1. Those who have a personal relationship with God, Jesus, and the holy spirit.
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nate jonesacc Wrote:I'm not condemning Kev nor do I hate him... Your point?
Nate, are Christians the only ones who can enter heaven?
01-28-2004 01:55 PM
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T-Monay820 Wrote:
nate jonesacc Wrote:I'm not condemning Kev nor do I hate him... Your point?
Nate, are Christians the only ones who can enter heaven?
I don't know... Something tells me that many "atheists" or "agnostics" are in paradise (not Heaven, there is a clear difference)... and there are probably many "Christians" who are in hell.

Some people need to realize that calling yourself a Christian does not give you a ticket upstairs... "Man is saved by faith alone, but not a faith that is alone."

Ten points to whoever can tell me who said that.
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nate jonesacc Wrote:I don't know... Something tells me that many "atheists" or "agnostics" are in paradise (not Heaven, there is a clear difference)... and there are probably many "Christians" who are in hell.

Some people need to realize that calling yourself a Christian does not give you a ticket upstairs... "Man is saved by faith alone, but not a faith that is alone."

Ten points to whoever can tell me who said that.
You failed to answer the question.

What is your definition of a Christian? By that standard, are Christians the only ones who can enter heaven?
01-28-2004 02:10 PM
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T-Monay820 Wrote:
nate jonesacc Wrote:I don't know... Something tells me that many "atheists" or "agnostics" are in paradise (not Heaven, there is a clear difference)... and there are probably many "Christians" who are in hell.

Some people need to realize that calling yourself a Christian does not give you a ticket upstairs... "Man is saved by faith alone, but not a faith that is alone."

Ten points to whoever can tell me who said that.
You failed to answer the question.

What is your definition of a Christian? By that standard, are Christians the only ones who can enter heaven?
I told you that I don't know... "Belief in Christ" and "faith in God" are extremely open to interpretation... Like I said, I'd guess that there are people in paradise who did not claim that they were Christian on earth, and likewise, there are people who claimed to be Christian on earth, but are in hell.
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