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But if we want to bring up what someone did many moons ago in the Alabama Guard........got a pic of someone hanging with Jane....

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Really does not jive with the war hero look, now does it?
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My suspicions have been confirmed! Thanks, Rick.

Rick's signature says, among other things, that if one is not a conservative by age 35, then they don't have a brain. So that means Bush DOES NOT have a brain because he certainly isn't a conservative! :rolleyes:
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Ole Effin Kerry is really looking like a big ole hypocrite with all of this war hero stuff.

Let's see, in 1992 he gave a lecture stating:

Quote:I am saddened by the fact that Vietnam has yet again been inserted into the campaign, and that it has been inserted in what I feel to be the worst possible way. "


and then he went on to say....

Quote:We do not need to divide America over who served and how. I have personally always believed that many served in many different ways. Someone who was deeply against the war in 1969 or 1970 may well have served their country with equal passion and patriotism by opposing the war as by fighting in it. Are we now, 20 years or 30 years later, to forget the difficulties of that time, of families that were literally torn apart, of brothers who ceased to talk to brothers, of fathers who disowned their sons, of people who felt compelled to leave the country and forget their own future and turn against the will of their own aspirations?


I wonder why he didn't want this stuff brought up in 1992, but it is OK in 2004?

Can you say......................Hypocrite?

Here is the whole story.

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KlutzDio I Wrote:My suspicions have been confirmed! Thanks, Rick.

Rick's signature says, among other things, that if one is not a conservative by age 35, then they don't have a brain. So that means Bush DOES NOT have a brain because he certainly isn't a conservative! :rolleyes:
You have to excuse Rick, he is a Tarheel fan. They tend to be pretty loopy! 03-razz
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Let's face it guys. The choice this year, Bush the Dumber or Heinz-Kerry is about as pathetic as it was last time around. Yes, let's all get excited at watching two dyed in wool members of the ruling class duke it out. Two patricians trying to relate to the average schmuck who gets to pay the taxes they never miss just to keep their game going,what a hoot that is going to be. I say, f()& 'em all.
02-11-2004 07:58 PM
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rickheel Wrote:But if we want to bring up what someone did many moons ago in the Alabama Guard........got a pic of someone hanging with Jane....

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Kerry freaking volunteered. He didn't have to go to Nam. He was rich, just like Bush. But he went to Nam and got shot at and shot back out of a sense of duty and convction.

And then he came home and said it was bull****, that the war was wrong, that it had very little to do with keeping America free and that he couldn't stomach what he saw first hand. And that's probably why you have that picture there -- Kerry at a war rally or whatever.

Sure Kerry protested the war. But he also put his life on the line -- and, in the process, learned first hand what a crock of ****** the whole Vietnam enterprise was.

That's Kerry.

Then we have Bush, who opted not to get his hands dirty by joining the National Guard.

Keep in mind -- we aren't talking about today's National Guard, where people actually sometimes have to Iraq and maybe get shot at. We are talking about the National Guard of the 1970s, which was a way for people who didn't want to fight to avoid doing so.

In short, Bush's job was to defend Texas from the Viet Cong.

That wasn't hard. And yet it still looks like Bush didn't bother to show up for a lot of that. Was he on a cocaine binge? Was he chug-a-lugging with his frat buddies? We don't know.

And you know what? I'd be fine with that. Lots of honorable people decided Vietnam was bull****, and that they just weren't going to fight.

But here's the thing that gets me: Bush won't own up to it. He won't say he was chicken, he won't say Vietnam was wrong... he's just avoiding the issue and spinning and trying to act like the mighty patriot *these* days by showing up on an aircraft carrier in a jump suit and posing for pictures in Iraq with a (fake) Thanksgiving turkey.

The hell with him.

He's treating the U.S. armed services like a personal video game. He's sending people off to die even though he has very little idea what war is really like. AND FOR WHAT?.

Where are those WMDs, George? Find 'em yet? Find that threat to our national security yet, George?

In contrast, Kerry is a man of conviction. He volunteered for what he thought would be defending his country. And when he saw it was wrong, he protested and tried to put an end to it.

Either Bush won't admit he thought Vietnam was wrong -- or he thought the war was right and was a flat out chickenshit. Or maybe he was too drunk to even think about it.

America would be much better off with a man like John Kerry in charge of our armed services.
02-11-2004 08:56 PM
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George the Dumber's campaign song should be "What A wonderful World" (Okay, it could be What a Beautiful World It would Be). The guy was clearly avoiding having to you know,like, being shot at, but at least he didn't do the crap that Billy Clinnon did.

As for Kerry, that boy thought he was going to get an easy gig on a big, fat navy ship, only to get shipped out to the Mekong. Still, no denying that when he was in the ******, he did his job.

But,is this election about Vietnam? And what reason is there to think that a true fighter like Kerry would have any better judgment or do anything different than Bush the Dumber? Given Kerry's actions after returning home from Vietnam, is there any reason to really think that he is Commander in chief material? What you have with Kerry is the Deme idea of a tough guy on national defense. Only the Demos would think a guy like Therese - John Heinz-kerry would be a tough guy about national defense.

Sad thing is, there is nobody running for office who really is. Ah, but who cares. The political class won't suffer, just you, and who in God's name are you?
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The Things They Kerry'd
Introducing the first edition of Hugh Hewitt's exclusive "Kerry Files" memo.
by Hugh Hewitt

WITH LESS THAN 38 WEEKS until the November 2nd vote, radio hosts have got to sharpen the message. That's less than 200 broadcast days, and even with 15 segments per three hour show, that's only 3,000 opportunities to present a four- to twelve-minute segment that focuses on some aspect of John Kerry's record.

As a service to my broadcast colleagues, I will prepare occasional talking point memos to fill the spaces between now and November 2, 2004. So here is Volume 1, Number 1 of the Kerry Files:

NATIONAL SECURITY. Voters cannot trust John Kerry's judgment or his resolve on issues of national security. From his April, 1971 testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to his statement on January 29, 2003, in a Democratic candidates' debate that the war on terror is "primarily an intelligence and law enforcement operation," Kerry has fundamentally misunderstood threats to national security and the best means to defend the United States against them.

MULTILATERAL MAN. The "Swiss-educated son of a foreign service officer," as Time Magazine described Kerry in its February 9 issue, is a fully-formed U.N. man, for whom the opposition of the U.N. to any proposed American initiative would mean at least temporary and perhaps permanent paralysis.

DEFENSE RECORD. As a senator, John Kerry has voted against the full funding of most major weapons systems of the past two decades, including the MX missile, the Patriot inteceptor, and missile defense deployment.

THE L-WORD. According to Kerry-friendly Time Magazine's profile, there is "plenty to support
the notion that Kerry [is] just a classic bleeding heart: his ratings from the liberal Americans for Democratic Action have always hovered in the 90%-to-95% range."

GAY MARRIAGE. Kerry was one of only 14 senators to oppose the Defense of Marriage Act, the federal law, signed by Bill Clinton, that obstructs the automatic extension of Kerry's home state's embrace of gay marriage.

ABORTION. Kerry has repeatedly voted against the federal law banning partial birth abortions.

MASSACHUSETTS. Kerry is a stand-in for Senator Edward Kennedy, the latest in a long list of failed Massachusetts liberals who wanted to be president--a list that includes Michael Dukakis, Paul Tsongas, and of course, Teddy himself. A vote for Kerry is, in effect, a vote for Kennedy, as well as the East-coast elitism that has never successfully governed the country . . . or understood the world as other than a very contentious faculty meeting that can be calmed with the judicious application of soothing words and the distribution of small perks.

ARROGANCE. Kerry's personal arrogance is legendary, and his nickname--"Live Shot Kerry"--conveys that his arrogance is without even the mediating aristocratic virtue of reserve.

KYOTO. John Kerry's attachment to the Kyoto Protocol is complete and unshaken, despite the overwhelming rejection of the framework and its economy-crippling provisions by the public and most elected officials--including a large majority of Kerry's Senate colleagues.

FLIP-FLOPS. Kerry's indecision combines with his well-documented flip-flops to make him the Hamlet of the Senate--exactly the opposite of the war-time leadership we need.

JUDGMENT. Kerry has equated the president's service in the National Guard with avoiding the draft by skipping to Canada: "I've never made any judgments about any choice somebody made about avoiding the draft, about going to Canada, going to jail, being a conscientious objector, going into the National Guard." Equating honorable service with dishonorable flight is strong evidence of an impaired moral judgment.

DEATH PENALTY. As recently as 1996, Kerry publicly opposed the death penalty for terrorists. Now he says he supports it.

IRAQ. John Kerry voted against the 1991 war to liberate Kuwait. Had Kerry had his way, Saddam would still be on his throne, sitting atop Kuwait's oil, warehouses full of chemical and biological weapons, and, in all likelihood, nuclear weapons.

PERSONALITY. Kerry is without question the dullest, most self-absorbed, and most-awful-to-listen-to candidate in modern times. His Democratic primary victories were the result of Howard Dean's simultaneous self-destruction and take-down of Dick Gephardt. No other Democratic candidate could even make a plausible claim to be president. So Kerry emerged as the default nominee. He's got a glass jaw so transparent it sparkles in the fog.


THERE'S A SHOW'S-WORTH OF TALKING POINTS with which to start. Did I mention the photos of Kerry and Jane Fonda? Or that he's voted against cutting taxes a gazillion times and wants to raise them in 2005? Or his opposition to parental notification when a minor seeks an abortion?

Against this hour's work the Democrats have Ambassador Joe Wilson, their feverish attempt to distort the president's national guard service, and the possibility that Saddam fooled the world into believing he had WMD.

No wonder liberal talk radio can't succeed. Those hosts have no ammunition.
02-12-2004 09:09 AM
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Interesting article:

<a href='http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=352185' target='_blank'>http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=352185</a>

I thought his idea of UN control over our military particularly interesting.
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