Not that I mind the Wild West, but, we're not really getting a lot of fruitful discussion going. . .

And this thread is going to stimulate intelligent conversation and debate how? :cry:

Let me add....

This is what I see as one of the democrats biggest problems. They are whiners. They love to complain about stuff, but they don't ever try to do anything about it.

Case in point...Bill Clinton campaigned on "Americans that don't have health coverage need it" in 1992 & 1996. Algore campaigned on the same thing in 2000. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I believe that the #'s of uninsured American's actually increased between 1992 & 2000. Way to fullfill those campaign promises.

If you want something changed, be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem. And whining is being a part of the problem.

GrayBeard Wrote:Let me add....

This is what I see as one of the democrats biggest problems. They are whiners. They love to complain about stuff, but they don't ever try to do anything about it.

Case in point...Bill Clinton campaigned on "Americans that don't have health coverage need it" in 1992 & 1996. Algore campaigned on the same thing in 2000. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I believe that the #'s of uninsured American's actually increased between 1992 & 2000. Way to fullfill those campaign promises.

If you want something changed, be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem. And whining is being a part of the problem.

Everyone complains Graybeard. I remember very well all the belly-aching the entire time Clinton was president.

What we should all be complaining about is this dual-party system and how it has failed to work. Government doesn't govern, and third party candidates are locked out of the debates (a violation of the Constitution). Now I know that more than two parties would really cause a log-jam in the legislative branch, but nonetheless these GOPpers and Demorats are just suckin' up our dollars and this sucks!!

It's time for massive governmental reforms and you GOPpers would be crying foul if Al Gore had been elected, so that's evidence that everyone whines and bee-atches.

"If you want something changed, be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem. And whining is being a part of the problem."

Hey, bucko, I am *being* a part of the solution. The new AUP (which is being completely disregarded) is my idea. I shamelessly stole it from Dio a couple of months ago, when *he* suggested we start focusing on the issues at hand instead of using every opportunity to slam one another.

So, you were saying?

joebordenrebel Wrote:"If you want something changed, be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem. And whining is being a part of the problem."

Hey, bucko, I am *being* a part of the solution. The new AUP (which is being completely disregarded) is my idea. I shamelessly stole it from Dio a couple of months ago, when *he* suggested we start focusing on the issues at hand instead of using every opportunity to slam one another.

So, you were saying?

Just pointing out your incessant whining, and the fact that this thread will do nothing to improve better debate/discussion.

Unbelievable.

I make a crystal clear point.

That's "whining."

Can I get an impartial judge to call this debate? Who gets the point?

joebordenrebel Wrote:Unbelievable.

I make a crystal clear point.

That's "whining."

Can I get an impartial judge to call this debate? Who gets the point?

Sure, I'm impartial. To me you're just one more example of poor breeding and poorer education. You're a pinhead; didn't I cover this already?

You create a messageboard identity dedicated to insulting everyone who doesn't agree with you. Then you ridicule them for responding in kind. Then you whine and complain about the fact that the retaliation demonstrates what a pinhead you truly are.

The only crystal clear point you present is the one on top of your head. The true carnivores are out here. You're at a low spot on the food chain, and that's a dangerous place to be for someone who insists on drawing attention to himself.

Ah, yes. The witty repartee of the sorely maladjusted. . .touche, Mssr.

You are my hero!