Last time I checked, Missouri, Northwestern and Temple were members of the BCS. Bowling Green beat 'em all last year.

The MAC finished last season with two ranked teams (Marshall and Toledo). No non-BCS league has ever done that.

It's a good league. Miami is good. You will see.

<small>[ September 05, 2002, 04:11 PM: Message edited by: RochesterFalcon ]</small>

Yes Bowling Green did beat three BCS teams. Get your facts straight!

at Missouri 20-13
Temple 42-23
at Northwestern 42-41.
All from BCS Conferences, the so called "big six"

<small>[ September 05, 2002, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: bgnormals ]</small>

I'M NOT DOGGING MIAMI OF OHIO!!!!!!!!

A lot of these Mid-Major teams have some serious players that could play on almost any team anywhere. Leftwich, Carr, and Ragone etc. But a team needs more than a few good players.

If you compare the DEPTH of talent between the Major Conferences and Mid-Majors you'll see a HUGE difference. That's why a lot of the better Mid-Major teams start strong but struggle at the end of the season. See BYU and Fresno St. last year.

Now imagine if Miami of Ohio played a tougher schedule, that lack of depth would really start to show.

Miami of Ohio has the talent to beat any team in the nation on any given week. But to do that EVERY week is a WHOLE different story. (If you'll notice I've already stated this in a previous post, but apparently I'm dogging Miami.)

I was under the impression that a Bowl Championship Series team would be a team that PLAYED IN THE BOWL CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES!

ClemTiger: I'm out of this one -- good luck fighting these pesky guys off. I've learned my lesson by now....

<a href="http://www.ncaabbs.com/forums/mac/boards/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=000465" target="_blank">By the way, you have GTS to thank for the flood of MAC posters that started showing up all of a sudden.</a>

-JD

A BCS team can be interpreted a lot of different ways. The most common is to say that a school that plays in a conference where their champion gets an automatic bid into a BCS game is therefore a BCS school. Some people do interpret it another way.

I really don't care how it is interpreted or how anyone else feels about teams from the MAC. The MAC won all of their games against C-USA teams last year, and we have not lost to a C-USA team in a bowl game.

The MAC usually has the best winning percentage against teams from the "Major" conferences; out of all the "Mid-Major" conferences that is.

I know how good some of the teams are in the MAC, and so do a lot of other people. You can believe whatever you want to!

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JD Heel:
ClemTiger: I'm out of this one -- good luck fighting these pesky guys off. I've learned my lesson by now....

<a href="http://www.ncaabbs.com/forums/mac/boards/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=000465" target="_blank">By the way, you have GTS to thank for the flood of MAC posters that started showing up all of a sudden.</a>

-JD</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">who... ME???

Just promoting discussion -- and they would have posted anyway had they found this thread <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" />

I just made the find part a bit easier.

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ClemTiger,

How did your Clemson Tigers do in their last game against a MAC team?

We STILL love your kicker!

Go Herd!

You guys totally trip me out when you talk about your conference (MAC). We all know that you guys (MAC) have had like 2 decent wins against mediocre teams so far this year, but don't get all excited, this season just started. I know you all feel like you need to go ahead and use your bragging rights while you still can, but walk the talk in about 4 weeks. Who's your team again..' and who are you playing the next few games? Please go somewhere else with this nonsense!

Stick4489 it's probably too bad that we were the best competition that you played that year. I guess that's what you get when you're a part of the MAC rght?

I'm not trying to say that all of your teams are terrible. For the most part, when you speak of your conference as a whole - basically it doesn't have much to show.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Stick4489:
ClemTiger,

How did your Clemson Tigers do in their last game against a MAC team?

We STILL love your kicker!

Go Herd!</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">To answer your question Stick, we beat UCF 21-13 last season. They played a good game.

I however give up. I have actually complemented the MAC and some of the Mid-Major teams in my posts. Everybody on this board however hasn't even made an attempt to ACTUALLY read my posts. Everybodies jumping the gun ASSUMING i'm "dogging" the MAC and Miami.

I agree with all of you that Miami is a team that can not be overlooked and the MAC has it's share of good teams.

Where I differ from everyone else on this board is that i don't think Miami or most Mid-Major teams, minus a couple like Marshall and BYU (I've already posted this before, but of course no one actually reads my posts) would have the same succuess they now have if they were moved to one of the "big six".

Mid-Major teams, Top of the line talent, yes. Depth of talent, no. (again i've already posted this)

Hope everyone has a great football season!

Also we'll settle the score when Ball State rolls in to Death Valley soon!!!!!!!!!