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"Blue Devil Jump" (written by Robert Johnson; performed by Eric Clapton).

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In 2001, President George W. Bush placed Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski and his basketball program squarely in the Axis of Goodness, saying, "[Duke] recruited for athletic talent, but they also recruited character, as well. ... Good people do finish first."

And that's when I became a Duke fan. I mean, who doesn't like good people?

Of course, Bush is the guy who said when he met Russian president and former KGB man Vladimir Putin, "I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. I was able to get a sense of his soul."

Bush, Coach K
Who knew how much Coach K and former KGB man Vladimir Putin had in common?

Bush isn't the only president who gushes over Coach K. Earlier this month, Duke University President Richard Brodhead said, "He's a person of high integrity who teaches character as much as he teaches basketball."

It makes me wonder, though -- what was Coach K teaching when he schooled the Lakers and his own university? As Jason Whitlock said on Page 2, "[A] little public flirting with the Lakers is the easiest way to modify your 'lifetime' contract, the one Krzyzewski signed in 2001." You mean that wasn't a sincere flirtation with the Lakers?

Whatever Krzyzewski was teaching at Duke, Carlos Boozer was taking notes. He just screwed the Cleveland Cavaliers into the ground so hard they'll need a bulldozer to dig out.

Or maybe Boozer learned from Jay Williams, former NCAA Player of the Year at Duke -- like Boozer and Krzyzewski, Williams was part of the 2001 team that visited the President at the White House, one of Bush's "good people."

Williams broke his Chicago Bulls contract when he bought a motorcycle and rode it on the street. Sad to say, he also crashed, broke his pelvis, tore up his legs and probably ended his career. In all, Williams deprived the Bulls and their fans of his services, the second pick in the 2002 draft, which they used to take him, and about $3 million in cash they used to buy out his contract.

It was awfully nice of Jay to settle for $3 million of the Bulls' money after doing that to the team. Maybe former Blue Devil Grant Hill should follow Williams' example. Hill is still collecting on the seven-year, $93 million contract he signed with the Orlando Magic in 2000. Four years later, how many games has he played in a Magic uniform? 47. The Magic have urged him to retire. He won't. They need to get his $13-plus million annual salary off their books. He'd rather keep the franchise crippled for years than give back a penny.

Maybe Hill learned from former teammate Christian Laettner, the Golden Boy of college basketball in the early '90s. He was named NCAA Player of the Year over Shaquille O'Neal, and was the only non-NBA player on the original Dream Team -- apparently, they needed a character guy. Never mind that he's been been considered a flop and a pain in the *** during his six-team NBA career. And maybe Laettner learned from his former teammate, Danny Ferry, another NCAA Player of the Year from Duke. Ferry decided he was bigger than the NBA, so he refused to play for the Clippers, forcing them to trade him to, yes, Cleveland -- where he bombed.

Duke, Coach K and his players are the White Knights of basketball. Goodness knows where we would be without their chivalry.

Cut to grainy video of Coach K in a tuxedo and singing at a podium
07-28-2004 01:48 PM
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Let me get this straight.

You are blaming Coach K for what his college players did after they left Duke?

If you go by that reasoning then Dean Smith should be in jail.

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07-29-2004 07:10 AM
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That's an ESPN column, just so people know.

I won't necessarily agree or disagree 100 percent with what the guy said, but I think the point is that dook NBA alums are having some troubles lately. (He didn't even point out Phil Henderson, who was jailed recently for not paying child support.)

Personally, I don't hold a coach responsible for what happens with players after they leave a school. Now, if some of the coach's actions are suspect (Quin Snyder) then that's another story. But, I don't think K is involved with shady dealings.

But, I still don't agree with a lot of what Coach K does -- like the f-bombs he drops and the hypocrisy that comes out every now and then. For example, I think he played up the Lakers situation more than he had to, because I don't really think he was seriously considering leaving. That's where I agree with the columnist.

As for the Dean Smith jail comment -- first of all, I already said that I don't think a coach can be held too responsible for something like that. He can be a good influence and still have a few bad apples from time to time.

But, also, given the fact that Dean has put out more NBA players that probably any coach in recent history (and maybe ever), I think it's ludicrous to say something like that. The vast majority of his players have turned out to be fine, upstanding citizens -- those that don't become players or coaches usually rise to the top of other professions. And, yes, I'm aware of certain aberrations like the James Worthy incident and Rasheed Wallace's small skirmishes with the law. I don't recall either going to jail for them, but I could be wrong on that. I can't think of too many other Dean Smith disciples that have had serious trouble with the law, but maybe my mind is failing me this morning.

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It really is all about the relationships. :laugh:
07-29-2004 11:03 AM
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JD Heel Wrote:But, I don't think K is involved with shady dealings.
*cough* *cough*

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07-31-2004 01:28 AM
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Terpy Wrote:
JD Heel Wrote:But, I don't think K is involved with shady dealings.
*cough* *cough*

Corey Maggette
Link Terpy? :wave:
07-31-2004 06:17 PM
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Hell, forget the link, I'll settle for any sort of proof.

"I'm from Maryland, and nobody can beat me." -NCM
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Let the games begin! How ya doin Nate? Good to see ya. :wave:
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Hey! How did you get back on here?
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:eek: I'm feeling sick. I've seen 4 ghosts already this week. LT, BG, Terpy, and now nate. I think I might die if drunkterp showed up. :eek:
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and btw..welcome back nate
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techfan4 Wrote:and btw..welcome back nate
is this some kind of joke? who left the backdoor open?
08-01-2004 08:49 PM
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Nate :eek: Howdja get back here 03-pissed
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Here's your link my good friend. Terpy, be nice now.

<a href='http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/college/news/2000/04/30/duke_maggette/' target='_blank'>http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketbal.../duke_maggette/</a>
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And I love how it is such a horrible thing for NCM to get in a little trouble outside a bar but it is ok for Casey Sanders to beat up his girlfriend. :stupid:
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techfan4 Wrote::eek: I'm feeling sick. I've seen 4 ghosts already this week. LT, BG, Terpy, and now nate. I think I might die if drunkterp showed up. :eek:
I actually met TurtleProtector the other weekend.
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Oh...that did it...

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Very nice guy. He & LT kept us entertained all day with excellent drumfish selections & other stellar cover tunes.
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If you see him again, tell him to COME BACK! 03-wink :D
08-02-2004 09:58 AM
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Terpy Wrote:Here's your link my good friend. Terpy, be nice now.

<a href='http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/college/news/2000/04/30/duke_maggette/' target='_blank'>http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketbal.../duke_maggette/</a>
How does that prove that K was "involved with shady dealings"? All that proves is that "Maggette misled Duke". Hell, if anything, that link proves my point more than yours.
08-02-2004 12:07 PM
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