<a href='http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040916/480/wvrs10309162250' target='_blank'>"Tolerant" Dems show their true colors one more time...</a>

I guess that happy a-hole on the left thinks it's funny to make little girls cry...not to mention the black woman in the back screaming her fool head off at the poor kid.

THIS is the party of the "little guy"? This is the party that wants to protect our children? These are the people that care so much about our soldiers in Iraq?

Words can't describe how sick and furious seeing this picture made me...to see grown people laughing and yelling at an innocent girl after THEY RIPPED THE SIGN FROM HER HAND AND TORE IT TO SHREDS.

This is who you are, Democrats...I hope you're proud.

Posts like that are part of the reason why politics in this country are so horrible. No doubt, what those people did is terrible, and without a doubt should be frowned upon. However, that is a very select few people. When you speak of Democrats as a whole, you are talking about millions of people. Did the Democratic party ever endorse that behavior? No! Hasty generalizations like the one you made do nothing to promote unity, and will only infuriate democrats, thus making the fight against one another even stronger.

The same can be said for Democrats when they show neo-KKK members and the like, acting as though all Republicans are racists. Both sides are in such a rush to show how evil and terrible the other is, both are losing sight of the truth.

Open Secrets Wrote:Posts like that are part of the reason why politics in this country are so horrible. No doubt, what those people did is terrible, and without a doubt should be frowned upon. However, that is a very select few people. When you speak of Democrats as a whole, you are talking about millions of people. Did the Democratic party ever endorse that behavior? No! Hasty generalizations like the one you made do nothing to promote unity, and will only infuriate democrats, thus making the fight against one another even stronger.

The same can be said for Democrats when they show neo-KKK members and the like, acting as though all Republicans are racists. Both sides are in such a rush to show how evil and terrible the other is, both are losing sight of the truth.

Very true.

I found it pretty funny that the black guy in the back had his Edwards sign upside-down. :laugh:

Good post OS.

Open Secrets Wrote:Posts like that are part of the reason why politics in this country are so horrible. No doubt, what those people did is terrible, and without a doubt should be frowned upon. However, that is a very select few people. When you speak of Democrats as a whole, you are talking about millions of people. Did the Democratic party ever endorse that behavior? No! Hasty generalizations like the one you made do nothing to promote unity, and will only infuriate democrats, thus making the fight against one another even stronger.

The same can be said for Democrats when they show neo-KKK members and the like, acting as though all Republicans are racists. Both sides are in such a rush to show how evil and terrible the other is, both are losing sight of the truth.

well said.

You can get as sanctimonious and holier than thou as you want to. This isn't the first time an incident such as this has happened. I've never seen a Republican rip up some 3 year old kid's sign and then stand around them laughing and screaming. It's sickening.

And the gloves are off, especially for folks like wvucrazed who has the unmitigated gall to call our President a moron and then come over here and say "well said" like he's all for reasoned discourse.

For those who normally engage in rational conversation, my apolgies for painting with the proverbial broad brush...but I've had enough.

And by the way, it doesn't look like a select few people to me. It looks like a mob of people intimidating a lone guy with his kid.

"Frowned upon" doesn't even begin to cover it.

I am pissed about that as well. It DOES seem to be more common in the Democratic Party.

BearcatCarl Wrote:And by the way, it doesn't look like a select few people to me. It looks like a mob of people intimidating a lone guy with his kid.

"Frowned upon" doesn't even begin to cover it.

When speaking about the total number of Democrats in the country (probably tens of millions), these couple hundred are really chump change.

"Frowned upon" should cover it. You must realize that there is a civil war going on in the Sudan right now. Innocent women and children live in fear in both Israel and Palestine that they and their loved ones will be killed at any time. A girl getting her poster ripped up should be the smallest concern when we live in a world as stated above.

BearcatCarl Wrote:You can get as sanctimonious and holier than thou as you want to. This isn't the first time an incident such as this has happened. I've never seen a Republican rip up some 3 year old kid's sign and then stand around them laughing and screaming. It's sickening.

And the gloves are off, especially for folks like wvucrazed who has the unmitigated gall to call our President a moron and then come over here and say "well said" like he's all for reasoned discourse.

For those who normally engage in rational conversation, my apolgies for painting with the proverbial broad brush...but I've had enough.

I will give you that the Left seems to be the culprit in many cases like this one. It is sad that many Leftists have chosen to make a mockery of themselves and in a way, the views they express, by breaking laws in the name of "civil disobedience". It really demeans true civil protesters like MLK Jr., who fought against true injustices.

I am not getting sanctimonious with you. I'm trying to show you that you aren't being fair to millions of people. I can guarantee you that there are millions of Democrats who are ashamed of the people in question (the ones who tore up the girl's sign).

I've never seen a Republican tear up a 3 year old's sign, either. All the same, similar things DO happen. For example, at the Kerry/Edwards rally in Raleigh, NC, this summer, many Bush/Cheney supporters were seen verbally abusing Kerry supporters, unprovoked.

BearcatCarl Wrote:You can get as sanctimonious and holier than thou as you want to. This isn't the first time an incident such as this has happened. I've never seen a Republican rip up some 3 year old kid's sign and then stand around them laughing and screaming. It's sickening.

And the gloves are off, especially for folks like wvucrazed who has the unmitigated gall to call our President a moron and then come over here and say "well said" like he's all for reasoned discourse.

For those who normally engage in rational conversation, my apolgies for painting with the proverbial broad brush...but I've had enough.

did i call Bush a moron? I don't recall that. Please point it out to me. Thanks.

Open Secrets Wrote:

BearcatCarl Wrote:And by the way, it doesn't look like a select few people to me.&nbsp; It looks like a mob of people intimidating a lone guy with his kid.

"Frowned upon" doesn't even begin to cover it.

When speaking about the total number of Democrats in the country (probably tens of millions), these couple hundred are really chump change.

"Frowned upon" should cover it. You must realize that there is a civil war going on in the Sudan right now. Innocent women and children live in fear in both Israel and Palestine that they and their loved ones will be killed at any time. A girl getting her poster ripped up should be the smallest concern when we live in a world as stated above.

Yeah? And Iraq was a paradise? I only state that because Annan said it was illegal today but now wants us to intervene in the Sudan. "F" him. How is one different? There were attrocities in Iraq as well.


On another note, How in the HELL did some moron from Ghana, a rich man from his ancestors slave-selling, become Sec'y of the UN anyway?

RebelKev Wrote:

Open Secrets Wrote:

BearcatCarl Wrote:And by the way, it doesn't look like a select few people to me.  It looks like a mob of people intimidating a lone guy with his kid.

"Frowned upon" doesn't even begin to cover it.

When speaking about the total number of Democrats in the country (probably tens of millions), these couple hundred are really chump change.

"Frowned upon" should cover it. You must realize that there is a civil war going on in the Sudan right now. Innocent women and children live in fear in both Israel and Palestine that they and their loved ones will be killed at any time. A girl getting her poster ripped up should be the smallest concern when we live in a world as stated above.

Yeah? And Iraq was a paradise? I only state that because Annan said it was illegal today but now wants us to intervene in the Sudan. "F" him. How is one different? There were attrocities in Iraq as well.


On another note, How in the HELL did some moron from Ghana, a rich man from his ancestors slave-selling, become Sec'y of the UN anyway?

Iraq sure as hell was never a paradise and sure as hell isn't one now. I could have added that situation, too. My point is that thousands of people are dying of hunger, war and disease around the globe, and people are getting riled up about a girl getting her poster torn apart?

The Iraq war was only illegal by the UN's standards. While I disagree with going into Iraq, it is unfair to call the war "illegal". The UN has become a meaningless forum for debate and solely regulating the status quo.

I didn't mean that towards you. It was basically an angered response to what I have seen unfold today. My apologies.

RebelKev Wrote:I didn't mean that towards you. It was basically an angered response to what I have seen unfold today. My apologies.

No problem. It probably isn't healthy, however, for you to have such an anger toward someone you've (most likely) never met. Disagree with his policies as much as your heart desires, but I would wait to cast true judgment on him until I had actually met him.

The same thing goes for all of the people who have a vehement hatred of George Bush.

My father is a Vietnam Veteran. I am a veteran. What he said about my brothers-in-arms and voting to send troops into harms way and then refusing to support them in some failed attempt to "show Bush up" (the only people that suffered from that are OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS!) gives me reason to hate his *** forever.

RebelKev Wrote:My father is a Vietnam Veteran. I am a veteran. What he said about my brothers-in-arms and voting to send troops into harms way and then refusing to support them in some failed attempt to "show Bush up" (the only people that suffered from that are OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS!) gives me reason to hate his *** forever.

I was actually talking about Kofi Annan.

But anyway, some of the most rewarding experiences of my life have been getting to know people who I originally had hated for various reasons. Of course, you are never going to get to know Kofi Annan on a personal level, but just think. If you can hate him or John Kerry without getting to know him, next you may start to hate someone who you actually know. At that point, you are already throwing away an opportunity to have a good relationship with someone. I'm only saying this because I struggle daily with the same thing. I often say things like "Damn. I can't stand that gay guy over there, he's always so flamboyant about being gay." Next thing I know, I'm actually getting to know him, realizing he's actually a very nice, intelligent guy, and I feel like a dumb*** for casting judgment without really knowing him.

Gay? :laugh: Where did that come from? I don't hate gay people. I don't hate ANYONE for a decision they make about themself. I do, however have reservations about people that affect me. I don't know Annan, I grant you that, but I do know his track record. I also know Kerry's. I know what he did after Vietnam. I also know what he did during his time in the senate, which he rarely talks about. Sorry, I am VERY biased against Americans who attack the people that allow us to speak our minds. I am also not fond of people that talk about them when they are in harms way. I'm a defense contractor, instructor to be exact. I travel all over the country to different installations. If Kerry wants to say, "If GW Bush wants to talk about defense, BRING IT ON!" then I want to say, "If YOU want to talk about defense, and the people that are serving, BRING IT ON!". These guys despise Kerry.

RebelKev Wrote:Gay? :laugh: Where did that come from? I don't hate gay people. I don't hate ANYONE for a decision they make about themself. I do, however have reservations about people that affect me. I don't know Annan, I grant you that, but I do know his track record. I also know Kerry's. I know what he did after Vietnam. I also know what he did during his time in the senate, which he rarely talks about. Sorry, I am VERY biased against Americans who attack the people that allow us to speak our minds. I am also not fond of people that talk about them when they are in harms way. I'm a defense contractor, instructor to be exact. I travel all over the country to different installations. If Kerry wants to say, "If GW Bush wants to talk about defense, BRING IT ON!" then I want to say, "If YOU want to talk about defense, and the people that are serving, BRING IT ON!". These guys despise Kerry.

I was saying the "gay" thing as an example about myself. You have to understand that I live in a very liberal place, and anyone who doesn't fall in line perfectly with liberal ideology gets quite frustrated, including myself.

I guess we just have to agree to disagree. I think it's unhealthy to hate people without really knowing them as a human being. You don't. Might as well end it here.