Who in their right mind would want this train wreck for four more years?

Dogger Wrote:Who in their right mind would want this train wreck for four more years?

i think the obvious answer to your inquiry is: anyone who has even the limited requisite foresight to see that the next trainwreck will be ever so much worse.

my goodness. where did this whole "legally retarded" concept develop? some other left leaning personality was recently observed making a similar comment. no doubt the "better living through greater government involvement" folks just assume there is some regulation of the various states of retardation. if so, the left leaning folks on this board are about to qualify for special benefits.

Dogger Wrote:Who in their right mind would want this train wreck for four more years?

Geez I thought you were dead. :eek:

Oh little niner. The last time I had the displeasure of reading your idotic right wing Cliff note's you were telling me the vast ties between Saddam and Al-Queada. How Zarquawi was being treated in Baghdad Hospital and this proved Saddam's ties. I watched the same thing the night before on O'Reilly. Well as it turns out many analysts were surprised when Zarquawi last week pledged his support to Bin Laden. Many people in the know thought they were rivals.

So we now have this hornet's nest of terrorist activity where we had NO activity before. How about a tier 2 level of importance on over 400 tons of explosives. Wonder where those improvised explosive devices are coming from???? Do you care to know why we had the ball with Saddam??????? He kept these Islamic fundamentalist in check. Were you aware that there was once an Ayatollah of Iraq? Whatever happened to him???? He had nails pounded into his head on public square til he died. Just to show these religious nut jobs that this taliban crap wouldn't play with him in charge. So go on ahead sheep and keep up the party charge but the selected in chief is incompetent at best.

Tier One--

Ministry of oil and the pipelines. A nice ancillary benefit for Haliburton and their 9% over cost contracts.

How about 50 Iraqi national gaurdsman slaughtered execution style. Great planning there. 70 billion more requested for Iraq after the elections???? Lying about the cost of the prescription medicare costs. The lies just go on and on!!!!

I'll let you guys deal with this guy. Being in the field I can not STOMACH him basically saying our troops are failures.

Just thank goodness 9-11 didn't happen on a Democrats watch. There would have been special inquiries that would have paled the Lewinsky witch hunt. Why haven't we spent 1/20th of Whitewater on prosecuting Kenneth Lay. The same Kenneth Lay who was with Cheney formulating energy policy. These crooks should be escorted out in hand-cuffs.

Nobody ever said anything about our troops!!! And I can't stomach people who attack people who disagree with this administration as being unpatriotic. Nobody owns that flag buddy and many people died to make sure both people's sides are heard. Our troops are a sharp tip of a spear to a dumb shaft of policy.

Dogger, who the &$^# do you think is over there, the damn troops or effin George W. Bush!!!!!! Say Iraq is a failure ALL you want, JUST like Kerry, and damnit, sorry, you are SAYING the troops are failures.

I have alot of friends in the military and nobody and I mean nobody would call them failures!!!!

Dogger Wrote:I have alot of friends in the military and nobody and I mean nobody would call them failures!!!!

KERRY HAS CALLED THEM FAILURES IN HIS DAMN DIALOGUE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Q: Who praises the military for a job well done?

A: Bush.

Q: Who says that the war in Iraq is going poorly, even though it is the damn TROOPS THAT ARE FIGHTING IT?

A: Kerry.

He ****ed the military over in '71 and damnit, he's ****ing them over now! Bush isn't IN Iraq. The 4th ID is. The 1st Cav is. The 82d is. The 101st is. Saying Iraq is a mess because of a FEW!!!! spots of insurgency is idiocy.

So by your logic if your not trained for the mission (Abu Ghraib) nor properly equipped (body armor, humvees) your a failure. I HAVE NEVER CALLED OUR TROOPS FAILURES NOR WOULD I EVER.

...and if it's about money, well damnit, even though it was approved, Kerry voted against it and you are making a partisan argument against Bush asking for 75 more billion in January. The job NEEDED to be done. You ***** because there were no stockpiles and then ***** because stockpiles are missing. What's the ****ing real reason Dogger?

Dogger Wrote:So by your logic if your not trained for the mission (Abu Ghraib) nor properly equipped (body armor, humvees) your a failure. I HAVE NEVER CALLED OUR TROOPS FAILURES NOR WOULD I EVER.

They were trained and they were properly equipped. When we go to war you can't EXPECT the military to ALL be in titanium-laden suits. How would we pay for you liberals countless social programs?

Weren't trained.....that still gets me. Yeah, they were effin trained. MP's are trained at Ft. McClellan, Alabama(were, they shut McClellan down)...and reservists go through the SAME damn Advanced Individual Training as active soldiers. :rolleyes:

Talk more about your knowledge of the military....if this wasn't so damn dear to my heart, it would be funny.

Nice Try.... just went back through the original intent of this thread and you threw me a curve ball. We are not debating our troops we are debating W's recklessness as a president. I respectfully request we no longer debate the courageous actions of our troops just the policies that put them there. Just wondering. What was the reason we went to war in Iraq??? Have we ever been told the truth on that one. Are the people we are fighting now the reason we went into Iraq???? By invading Iraq have we created many more enemies in the Muslim world? Have we stregthened Al-Queada with our actions in Iraq?? I believe HONEST people can debate these questions in a reasonable matter.

bull****, you can't sit there and talk about how you, or your emperor, think that Iraq is a failure WITHOUT bashing the troops. I am NOT some PC weenie. I WILL call'em like I see'em. I will not hesitate to call someone unpatriotic. Do you have that right? Yes. However, when it is detrimental to our mission, you're DAMN RIGHT it's unpatriotic. The military is given a mission. If you think their mission has failed, you are talking about them. Fact is the mission HASN'T effin failed and you, and Kerry, want to go BACK to the same lame-dick organization that allowed this to escalate to begin with. How they doin' in the Sudan lately? Rwanda? Somalia?

Those stockpiles of weapons were not of the mass destruction cateegory. Iraq is full of conventional weapons and yes stcokpiles of these explosives should have been a Tier 1 priority. Goodness sakes Rumsfeld knew his Generals requested more troops but he knew it wouldn't play politically. If this war was moral and just Bush wouldn't have had any problems politically. It was the lies and manipulations that don't pass the TEST OF TIME. What was Cheney going over to the CIA 13 times to cook the books? What was the RUSH to war????