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You Dems can talk. He's a Republican and an effin disgrace. However, he won't be. Republicans don't re-elect people like this. You guys do it constantly. Did it in Augusta with Charles Walker and ALMOST Ed McIntyre. I'll be watching.

What about your guy from Wyoming that ran a stop sign and killed somebody. He was known to drive fast and endanger people all the time. When he finally killed sombody he resigned, but he was relelected before that. I don't remembe the guys name, it was a couple of years ago.

JTiger Wrote:What about your guy from Wyoming that ran a stop sign and killed somebody. He was known to drive fast and endanger people all the time. When he finally killed sombody he resigned, but he was relelected before that. I don't remembe the guys name, it was a couple of years ago.

I think he was from Montana.

I also think if an response starts with "What about..." , it is probably a weak response.

Quote:Republicans don't re-elect people like this.

<a href='http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushdui1.html' target='_blank'>http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushdui1.html</a>

<a href='http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/cheney_doc.html' target='_blank'>http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/cheney_doc.html</a>

That one was too easy...I really don't care, it just bugs me that you point out a story about a Republican who broke the law and very quickly turn it into a way to bash the Dems.

99Tiger Wrote:That one was too easy...I really don't care, it just bugs me that you point out a story about a Republican who broke the law and very quickly turn it into a way to bash the Dems.

Haha, well it is the spin forum
:D

99Tiger Wrote:

Quote:Republicans don't re-elect people like this.

<a href='http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushdui1.html' target='_blank'>http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushdui1.html</a>

<a href='http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/cheney_doc.html' target='_blank'>http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/cheney_doc.html</a>

That one was too easy...I really don't care, it just bugs me that you point out a story about a Republican who broke the law and very quickly turn it into a way to bash the Dems.

Uhh, nice try. Did they do this while elected? What I am seeing from YOUR reference, and I use the same one often, is what they did when they were young. You're gonna have to do better than that.....that is, unless you were perfect as a youth.


Seriously though, this was a, and I will capitalize this, dumb*** RESPONSE to what I asked. If the shoe fits.


Now, get BACK to the topic. It's easy. All you have to do is READ!!!! Not too hard, is it?

Let me break it down to Kindergarden terms, WHAT Republican stays IN OFFICE, in office being the keywords, that commits a crime. This has not a damn thing to do with past crimes as a youth.

Dig away.

99Tiger, I have to say, if that's the best you can do......****ing LOL, you guys are lost.

Quote:unless you were perfect as a youth.

Although I am far from perfect, I can honestly say I have never smoked crack, been an alcoholic, gotten a DUI, or done whatever the hell you do with cocaine.

And I will never vote for someone who has admitted to smoking crack, having DUI's, or smoking pot without inhaling :rolleyes:

BamaBlazer Wrote:

Quote:unless you were perfect as a youth.

Although I am far from perfect, I can honestly say I have never smoked crack, been an alcoholic, gotten a DUI, or done whatever the hell you do with cocaine.

And I will never vote for someone who has admitted to smoking crack, having DUI's, or smoking pot without inhaling :rolleyes:

Hmm, Ok. Bush has a DUI. He has never smoked crack. Are you making this up? Or is this something you read on DU.com?

It's called research. Try it sometime.

BTW, 1st DUI=Misdemeanor. My suggestion, tell ALL of your friends to stay away from pissing in public. Misdemeanor. :rolleyes:

<a href='http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/tours/scandal/barry.htm' target='_blank'>Two words.......Marion Barry</a>

OptimisticOwl Wrote:

JTiger Wrote:What about your guy from Wyoming that ran a stop sign and killed somebody.&nbsp; He was known to drive fast and endanger people all the time.&nbsp; When he finally killed sombody he resigned, but he was relelected before that.&nbsp; I don't remembe the guys name, it was&nbsp; a couple of years ago.

I think he was from Montana.

I also think if an response starts with "What about..." , it is probably a weak response.

So are you saying it wasn't true?

RebelKev Wrote:99Tiger, I have to say, if that's the best you can do......****ing LOL, you guys are lost.

SO there's a difference between a crime comitted out of office and in office? No, I don't believe there is and I feel sorry for anyone who thinks there is.

And I didn't put much thought in that since, like I said, I really don't care. I just had an issue with you taking a republican who f'ed up and somehow trying to blast the Dems beause of it. I realize that you're little more than a partisan shill, but come on, you can do better than that. And for the record, I'm not a Dem...in fact I vote about even and will cast my ballot for whoever I think is the best candidate...typically someone who is moderate left to moderate right.

And for the record, I don't vote for anyone who has DUI's in their past or has used drugs in their past...including Clinton. If they changed their ways and have walked the line for years...great for them...but they still don't get my vote because I don't think that's the type of example that needs to be set for the youth of the country.

Go ahead, experiment with whatever drugs you want. Get drunk and jeopardize other's lives. Just stop before you're 30 or you won't have a career in politics? Yeah, that's sensible. :rolleyes:

Oh yeah, Bush never smoked crack...but he won't deny using cocaine, which is considerably worse (IMO) than smoking pot.

JTiger Wrote:

OptimisticOwl Wrote:

JTiger Wrote:What about your guy from Wyoming that ran a stop sign and killed somebody.&nbsp; He was known to drive fast and endanger people all the time.&nbsp; When he finally killed sombody he resigned, but he was relelected before that.&nbsp; I don't remembe the guys name, it was&nbsp; a couple of years ago.

I think he was from Montana.

I also think if an response starts with "What about..." , it is probably a weak response.

So are you saying it wasn't true?

The second weakest response is one that starts with "So you are saying...?"

Read it again. I didn't say that. You are trying to attribute a statement to me I didn't make.

The only assertion of fact i made was that I thought he was from Montana.

I see this a lot, most recently from Alan Colmes and Phil Donahue.

Examples:

O'Reilly: I think it would be a mistake to withdraw from Iraq now.
Donahue" So you are saying you want more Americans to die?"

Not what he said, Phil


Caller on Alan Colmes' talk show: I think that Aruba messed up the Nathalie Holloway investigation, but we have to remember, their laws and proceedures are different from ours. We can't expect them to run it according to American laws.
Colmes: So what you are saying is that you are OK with young girls being murdered?

Not what he said, Alan.

I listen to a lot of talk shows from both sides of the political spectrum and whenever I hear resonses like that, I know the responder has run out of ammo.

(Both the above are generalized examples from memory, not direct quotes. However, they demonstate the the weakness of the "So you are saying... reponse")

Now the "What about..." response:

Citizen A: George W. Bush has a DUI
Citizen B: What about Teddy Kennedy?

Citizen D: Tom Delay has been indicted. he's a crook
Citizen E: What about Clinton?
Citizen D: What about Nixon?

Both of these responses are about as weak as Are too/Are not.