tigergreen Wrote:

JTiger Wrote:

daddyodewy Wrote:

JTiger Wrote:

daddyodewy Wrote:I know someone who is planning on moving back to Memphis and asked about areas of town to consider. Since I'm relatively new back in town myself, I'm not sure what to tell them.

In an earlier post, someone said something about the "safer" areas of mid-town.

What would those areas be? I'm under the impression there is a high crime rate in all of mid-town.

You don't know much. Let me guess you live in bartlett or Olive Branch.

You are correct in the fact that I don't know much.....just enough to get by, raise a family, pay taxes,successful at my job, not get in any legal trouble and although not financially secure for life, I'm doing OK.

Your guess in incorrect......I live in Memphis.....formerly part of Cordova, but annexed before we moved back......right next to Germantown.

Now how about my question. What is considered the "safer" parts of mid-town???

And I'm just curious, why would you assume I lived in Bartlett or Olive Branch??

I assumed it because it's the typical response about midtown from any OB or bartlett resident I know. Cordove isn't much better, good luck with declining property values if you own.

I lived in midtown for 10 years and never had any crime happen to me. Like any place you have to be aware of your surroundings and take reasonable precautions to protect yourself. However, someone ingnorant like yourself spouts off about something being a "high crime" area without knowing the area.

That doesn't make him ignorant, JTiger, just misinformed. Who knows who he asked before he moved back?

Thanks tigergreen.

For the record I asked friends and family. They lived in mid-town, downtown, Bartlett, Cordova, SE. Memphis, east Memphis. Those are the people/places I remember. I also asked both black and white Memphians. We felt we asked enough people in enough of the different parts of town. We love where we live as for the 20 years previous, we were in NY and LA. We love the quiet that we have in our neighborhood.

One can only do the best one can......and hope your decision turns out to be a good one.

Bill83 Wrote:

JTiger Wrote:You don't know much. Let me guess you live in bartlett or Olive Branch.

You are correct in the fact that I don't know much.....just enough to get by, raise a family, pay taxes,successful at my job, not get in any legal trouble and although not financially secure for life, I'm doing OK.

Your guess in incorrect......I live in Memphis.....formerly part of Cordova, but annexed before we moved back......right next to Germantown.

Now how about my question. What is considered the "safer" parts of mid-town???

And I'm just curious, why would you assume I lived in Bartlett or Olive Branch??

I assumed it because it's the typical response about midtown from any OB or bartlett resident I know. Cordove isn't much better, good luck with declining property values if you own.

I lived in midtown for 10 years and never had any crime happen to me. Like any place you have to be aware of your surroundings and take reasonable precautions to protect yourself. However, someone ingnorant like yourself spouts off about something being a "high crime" area without knowing the area.[/quote]

Our board expert on racism would stereotype entire communities? say it isn't so...[/quote]

My comment was based on experience, his was based on nothing. Big difference.

daddyodewy Wrote:

JTiger Wrote:

daddyodewy Wrote:

JTiger Wrote:

daddyodewy Wrote:I know someone who is planning on moving back to Memphis and asked about areas of town to consider. Since I'm relatively new back in town myself, I'm not sure what to tell them.

In an earlier post, someone said something about the "safer" areas of mid-town.

What would those areas be? I'm under the impression there is a high crime rate in all of mid-town.

You don't know much. Let me guess you live in bartlett or Olive Branch.

If you think ALL of midtown is HIGH CRIME you are ignorant or lying. You choice.

You are correct in the fact that I don't know much.....just enough to get by, raise a family, pay taxes,successful at my job, not get in any legal trouble and although not financially secure for life, I'm doing OK.

Your guess in incorrect......I live in Memphis.....formerly part of Cordova, but annexed before we moved back......right next to Germantown.

Now how about my question. What is considered the "safer" parts of mid-town???

And I'm just curious, why would you assume I lived in Bartlett or Olive Branch??

I assumed it because it's the typical response about midtown from any OB or bartlett resident I know. Cordove isn't much better, good luck with declining property values if you own.

I lived in midtown for 10 years and never had any crime happen to me. Like any place you have to be aware of your surroundings and take reasonable precautions to protect yourself. However, someone ingnorant like yourself spouts off about something being a "high crime" area without knowing the area.

Don't know much.....I'll give you. But ignorant, I'll argue that with you all day and night for as long as you want. You are, in my opionion, out of line with that statement. I missed the memo that made you the decider of who and what is ignorant.

Re-read......I said I was under the IMPRESSION that mid-town has a high crime rate. That is quite different than stating that as a fact. Comprehension my friend.

We asked a lot of people about different areas of town before we moved back and most gave a "mid-town has a high crime rate" response. Now maybe we didn't asked enough people, or maybe we didn't ask up and down the socio ecconomic ladder. Maybe we got bad info. Maybe.....

Since I don't call people morons, ignorant, stupid, etc, I'll refrain from doing so now............but............................

JTiger Wrote:

Bill83 Wrote:

JTiger Wrote:You don't know much. Let me guess you live in bartlett or Olive Branch.

You are correct in the fact that I don't know much.....just enough to get by, raise a family, pay taxes,successful at my job, not get in any legal trouble and although not financially secure for life, I'm doing OK.

Your guess in incorrect......I live in Memphis.....formerly part of Cordova, but annexed before we moved back......right next to Germantown.

Now how about my question. What is considered the "safer" parts of mid-town???

And I'm just curious, why would you assume I lived in Bartlett or Olive Branch??

I assumed it because it's the typical response about midtown from any OB or bartlett resident I know. Cordove isn't much better, good luck with declining property values if you own.

I lived in midtown for 10 years and never had any crime happen to me. Like any place you have to be aware of your surroundings and take reasonable precautions to protect yourself. However, someone ingnorant like yourself spouts off about something being a "high crime" area without knowing the area.

Our board expert on racism would stereotype entire communities? say it isn't so...[/quote]

My comment was based on experience, his was based on nothing. Big difference.[/quote]




I wouldn't call asking opinions from 20 or so people nothing. I would call tha research. You might say it's too small a sample if you'd like, but I wouldn't call it " based on nothing"

phototiger Wrote:

daddyodewy Wrote:I know someone who is planning on moving back to Memphis and asked about areas of town to consider. Since I'm relatively new back in town myself, I'm not sure what to tell them.

In an earlier post, someone said something about the "safer" areas of mid-town.

What would those areas be? I'm under the impression there is a high crime rate in all of mid-town.

hardly.

midtown has one thing going for it that places like cordova don't. people that live here truly WANT to be in midtown. not to say that people don't want to be in cordova, collierville, etc, but rather that midtowners know that we have two property taxes, there are some shaky areas nearby, etc, yet we are five minutes from downtown, have zoning laws that make sense (i can walk to any number of restaurants, a cleaners, gift shops, yoga, chiropractor, Rhodes, the Zoo, Overton Park, etc) and i know all of my neighbors. we want to live here, in this area, and are willing to deal with some things that people fleeing to southaven aren't. (good luck living down there on goodman or craft. going to be a giant crime ridden box retailer strip mall slum in 20 years)



sure, there is crime, and the rape in central gardens is horrifying, but it made the news because that kind of event is the exception, not the rule.

i live in evergreen and love it. yeah there are occasional petty thefts, but i would not live out in some subdivision in cordova or southaven if you put a gun to my head. i have an 80 foot oak covering my back yard, i feel connected to the city and i, and my neighbors have a vested interest in seeing evergreen continue to thrive. we choose to be here. we choose to keep it clean and as safe as we can.

my property value has shot up probably $30,000 in the last three years, whereas tract housing in cordova might see the market fall from under it one day. that won't happen in midtown, at least in certain areas.

so if you move to midtown...

Central Gardens is really nice. and did you see all the locals descend on the city council? that happens when you live in a COMMUNITY, not on a street.

Evergreen is great, but the farther north you go past North Parkway the more "trouble" you are going to encounter. sorry poor north memphis criminals- truth hurts.

Cooper Young is probably the hippest and most fun, but the crime there is a little greater than the mentioned neighborhoods, probably because of the volume of business and that major streets cut through it, allowing people to drive into and out of the area quickly. but it is still a great area.

and most of the multi-million dollar really awesome houses are in in midtown anyway. if you got some jack you can get a truly amazing place.

come on down

Bingo - Property values in midtown do and are rising. I find it hilarious how so many people want to move down to Desoto County. Do they think taxes and crime will not be high there in 5-10 years. My family and I live in a cove off of Central (by U0fM) and absolutely love it. Our daughter will be going to St. Agnes, so we don't have the worries the public school systems. Different strokes for different folkes

daddyodewy Wrote:Don't know much.....I'll give you. But ignorant, I'll argue that with you all day and night for as long as you want. You are, in my opionion, out of line with that statement. I missed the memo that made you the decider of who and what is ignorant.

Re-read......I said I was under the IMPRESSION that mid-town has a high crime rate. That is quite different than stating that as a fact. Comprehension my friend.

We asked a lot of people about different areas of town before we moved back and most gave a "mid-town has a high crime rate" response. Now maybe we didn't asked enough people, or maybe we didn't ask up and down the socio ecconomic ladder. Maybe we got bad info. Maybe.....

Since I don't call people morons, ignorant, stupid, etc, I'll refrain from doing so now............but............................

I'm very confused here. Does ignorant not mean what I think it means? I'm not trying to be difficult, or act like a jerk, I just don't get this.

Dictionary.com defines Ignorant as:

Quote:1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3. uninformed; unaware.
4. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.

You didn't know much about the crime rate. You admit it youself. You were ignorant of the facts. It is not an insult, nor should it be taken as one. There are many many things that I am ignorant of, for example: Heart Transplant Surgery, how to change the clutch in a 1983 Ford Pickup, or what it's like to watch a football game in Neyland Stadium.

So I am I missing something here (no coffee today) or does ignorant have some connotations I'm unaware of?

I grew up in in Germantown and now live between central and poplar on Iroquois behind the pink palace. Both are incredible places to raise a family in my opinion. Both have their drawbacks ( I can't fish in the neighborhood lake now, and I got a ticket for going under the speed limit in Germantown one time) but I don't think they can be beat.


Alabama booster's (who paid Albert means mom) house just went on the market if anyone's interested. You'll make exactly the second Memphis fan here.

Crini Wrote:

daddyodewy Wrote:Don't know much.....I'll give you. But ignorant, I'll argue that with you all day and night for as long as you want. You are, in my opionion, out of line with that statement. I missed the memo that made you the decider of who and what is ignorant.

Re-read......I said I was under the IMPRESSION that mid-town has a high crime rate. That is quite different than stating that as a fact. Comprehension my friend.

We asked a lot of people about different areas of town before we moved back and most gave a "mid-town has a high crime rate" response. Now maybe we didn't asked enough people, or maybe we didn't ask up and down the socio ecconomic ladder. Maybe we got bad info. Maybe.....

Since I don't call people morons, ignorant, stupid, etc, I'll refrain from doing so now............but............................

I'm very confused here. Does ignorant not mean what I think it means? I'm not trying to be difficult, or act like a jerk, I just don't get this.

Dictionary.com defines Ignorant as:

Quote:1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3. uninformed; unaware.
4. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.

You didn't know much about the crime rate. You admit it youself. You were ignorant of the facts. It is not an insult, nor should it be taken as one. There are many many things that I am ignorant of, for example: Heart Transplant Surgery, how to change the clutch in a 1983 Ford Pickup, or what it's like to watch a football game in Neyland Stadium.

So I am I missing something here (no coffee today) or does ignorant have some connotations I'm unaware of?

I believe it comes down to semantics. When calling someone ignorant, I believe it to be a blanket statement about the person as a whole. Now, if you want to say someone is ignorant in regard to specific subject matter, as you did about heart transplant surgery then I have no problem with that.

Re-read JT's post and take the" ignorant" in context and I suggest he was using the word as a generalization about me. Taking a shot if you will.

If you disagree with my assessment then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Plus JT never made your argument in coming back after my post and despite our little back and forth here, he seems to be a reasonably intelligent person and would of/could of made your argument if he in fact felt as you do.

daddyodewy Wrote:

Crini Wrote:

daddyodewy Wrote:Don't know much.....I'll give you. But ignorant, I'll argue that with you all day and night for as long as you want. You are, in my opionion, out of line with that statement. I missed the memo that made you the decider of who and what is ignorant.

Re-read......I said I was under the IMPRESSION that mid-town has a high crime rate. That is quite different than stating that as a fact. Comprehension my friend.

We asked a lot of people about different areas of town before we moved back and most gave a "mid-town has a high crime rate" response. Now maybe we didn't asked enough people, or maybe we didn't ask up and down the socio ecconomic ladder. Maybe we got bad info. Maybe.....

Since I don't call people morons, ignorant, stupid, etc, I'll refrain from doing so now............but............................

I'm very confused here. Does ignorant not mean what I think it means? I'm not trying to be difficult, or act like a jerk, I just don't get this.

Dictionary.com defines Ignorant as:

Quote:1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3. uninformed; unaware.
4. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.

You didn't know much about the crime rate. You admit it youself. You were ignorant of the facts. It is not an insult, nor should it be taken as one. There are many many things that I am ignorant of, for example: Heart Transplant Surgery, how to change the clutch in a 1983 Ford Pickup, or what it's like to watch a football game in Neyland Stadium.

So I am I missing something here (no coffee today) or does ignorant have some connotations I'm unaware of?

I believe it comes down to semantics. When calling someone ignorant, I believe it to be a blanket statement about the person as a whole. Now, if you want to say someone is ignorant in regard to specific subject matter, as you did about heart transplant surgery then I have no problem with that.

Re-read JT's post and take the" ignorant" in context and I suggest he was using the word as a generalization about me. Taking a shot if you will.

If you disagree with my assessment then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Plus JT never made your argument in coming back after my post and despite our little back and forth here, he seems to be a reasonably intelligent person and would of/could of made your argument if he in fact felt as you do.

Thank you, I can certainly see your point.

I'm going to respectfully disagree with it, but I do understand how you got there.

I was just afraid that I had somehow gone through 30+ years thinking ignorant meant one thing when in fact it meant something totally different.

daddyodewy Wrote:Plus JT never made your argument in coming back after my post and despite our little back and forth here, he seems to be a reasonably intelligent person and would of/could of made your argument if he in fact felt as you do.

That's a debatable supposition (he hasn't convinced me of the same), but he is a self proclaimed expert on what constitutes a racist and claims experience with the sweeping philosophical bent of all inhabitants of OB and Bartlett.

phototiger Wrote:MEMPHIS CRIME TRACKER by zip code

look up your area . enjoy.

(eveergreen is 38112 (part of it) btw))

http://www.memphiscrimetracker.com/zip

I like the CrimeMapper website: https://crimemapper.memphispolice.org

In the past 30 days, within 1/2 mile of Overton Park & Evergreen, there have been:

8 burglaries (6 residential)
9 larcenies (non-vehicle)
11 larcenies (vehicle)
1 motor vehicle theft

I'm not knocking the area, but daddyodewy may consider this a high crime area.

Honestly, though, I'd rather live in the city and have crime statistics that are higher (I feel like I minimize my chances of being a victim by being aware of my surroundings, etc.) and have rapidly appreciating property values than live in a very low or zero crime area that has no appreciation. Obviously, little/no crime and appreciating property values are the ideal but that's less common in this area. Parts of Germantown fit that bill, but that's largely just due to statistical reasons, such as most of G'town isn't within 1/2 mile or 1 mile of a commercial area. Most of the crimes in my area are burglaries/thefts from the Primacy Parkway commercial area that's about a mile from my house.

TigerTwice Wrote:

phototiger Wrote:MEMPHIS CRIME TRACKER by zip code

look up your area . enjoy.

(eveergreen is 38112 (part of it) btw))

http://www.memphiscrimetracker.com/zip

I like the CrimeMapper website: https://crimemapper.memphispolice.org

In the past 30 days, within 1/2 mile of Overton Park & Evergreen, there have been:

8 burglaries (6 residential)
9 larcenies (non-vehicle)
11 larcenies (vehicle)
1 motor vehicle theft

I'm not knocking the area, but daddyodewy may consider this a high crime area.

Honestly, though, I'd rather live in the city and have crime statistics that are higher (I feel like I minimize my chances of being a victim by being aware of my surroundings, etc.) and have rapidly appreciating property values than live in a very low or zero crime area that has no appreciation. Obviously, little/no crime and appreciating property values are the ideal but that's less common in this area. Parts of Germantown fit that bill, but that's largely just due to statistical reasons, such as most of G'town isn't within 1/2 mile or 1 mile of a commercial area. Most of the crimes in my area are burglaries/thefts from the Primacy Parkway commercial area that's about a mile from my house.

It also depends how you look at the crimemapper. I keep close tabs on it for my area for my community association (I live north of Poplar, south of Walnut Grove, just west of Poplar Plaza). Our crime has dropped sharply over the last 6 months on the "nicer" streets (streets where the more affluent, single family homes are located). Now, where you have streets where there is an abundance of low income rental property, crime really has not dropped. Only someone who lives in my community would know the difference between the nice and not so nice streets, where as someone who looked at the crimemapper who did not know much about my area maybe would be alarmed by what they saw happening 1/2 mile from my house. As we all know, in Memphis you can have a street with million dollar homes on it (like Goodwyn where the woman was raped) and no crime and two streets over you have low income rental with a good deal of crime.

JMSTiger Wrote:

TigerTwice Wrote:

phototiger Wrote:MEMPHIS CRIME TRACKER by zip code

look up your area . enjoy.

(eveergreen is 38112 (part of it) btw))

http://www.memphiscrimetracker.com/zip

I like the CrimeMapper website: https://crimemapper.memphispolice.org

In the past 30 days, within 1/2 mile of Overton Park & Evergreen, there have been:

8 burglaries (6 residential)
9 larcenies (non-vehicle)
11 larcenies (vehicle)
1 motor vehicle theft

I'm not knocking the area, but daddyodewy may consider this a high crime area.

Honestly, though, I'd rather live in the city and have crime statistics that are higher (I feel like I minimize my chances of being a victim by being aware of my surroundings, etc.) and have rapidly appreciating property values than live in a very low or zero crime area that has no appreciation. Obviously, little/no crime and appreciating property values are the ideal but that's less common in this area. Parts of Germantown fit that bill, but that's largely just due to statistical reasons, such as most of G'town isn't within 1/2 mile or 1 mile of a commercial area. Most of the crimes in my area are burglaries/thefts from the Primacy Parkway commercial area that's about a mile from my house.

It also depends how you look at the crimemapper. I keep close tabs on it for my area for my community association (I live north of Poplar, south of Walnut Grove, just west of Poplar Plaza). Our crime has dropped sharply over the last 6 months on the "nicer" streets (streets where the more affluent, single family homes are located). Now, where you have streets where there is an abundance of low income rental property, crime really has not dropped. Only someone who lives in my community would know the difference between the nice and not so nice streets, where as someone who looked at the crimemapper who did not know much about my area maybe would be alarmed by what they saw happening 1/2 mile from my house. As we all know, in Memphis you can have a street with million dollar homes on it (like Goodwyn where the woman was raped) and no crime and two streets over you have low income rental with a good deal of crime.

yeah! let's run those low income renter thugs out of town on a rail.

phototiger Wrote:

JMSTiger Wrote:

TigerTwice Wrote:

phototiger Wrote:MEMPHIS CRIME TRACKER by zip code

look up your area . enjoy.

(eveergreen is 38112 (part of it) btw))

http://www.memphiscrimetracker.com/zip

I like the CrimeMapper website: https://crimemapper.memphispolice.org

In the past 30 days, within 1/2 mile of Overton Park & Evergreen, there have been:

8 burglaries (6 residential)
9 larcenies (non-vehicle)
11 larcenies (vehicle)
1 motor vehicle theft

I'm not knocking the area, but daddyodewy may consider this a high crime area.

Honestly, though, I'd rather live in the city and have crime statistics that are higher (I feel like I minimize my chances of being a victim by being aware of my surroundings, etc.) and have rapidly appreciating property values than live in a very low or zero crime area that has no appreciation. Obviously, little/no crime and appreciating property values are the ideal but that's less common in this area. Parts of Germantown fit that bill, but that's largely just due to statistical reasons, such as most of G'town isn't within 1/2 mile or 1 mile of a commercial area. Most of the crimes in my area are burglaries/thefts from the Primacy Parkway commercial area that's about a mile from my house.

It also depends how you look at the crimemapper. I keep close tabs on it for my area for my community association (I live north of Poplar, south of Walnut Grove, just west of Poplar Plaza). Our crime has dropped sharply over the last 6 months on the "nicer" streets (streets where the more affluent, single family homes are located). Now, where you have streets where there is an abundance of low income rental property, crime really has not dropped. Only someone who lives in my community would know the difference between the nice and not so nice streets, where as someone who looked at the crimemapper who did not know much about my area maybe would be alarmed by what they saw happening 1/2 mile from my house. As we all know, in Memphis you can have a street with million dollar homes on it (like Goodwyn where the woman was raped) and no crime and two streets over you have low income rental with a good deal of crime.

yeah! let's run those low income renter thugs out of town on a rail.

I don't know how you get that from my very reasoned comments about crime in Memphis. It is well documented that poverty breeds crime in our society. I was unaware that this is now considered a controversial idea.

daddyodewy Wrote:

Crini Wrote:

daddyodewy Wrote:Don't know much.....I'll give you. But ignorant, I'll argue that with you all day and night for as long as you want. You are, in my opionion, out of line with that statement. I missed the memo that made you the decider of who and what is ignorant.

Re-read......I said I was under the IMPRESSION that mid-town has a high crime rate. That is quite different than stating that as a fact. Comprehension my friend.

We asked a lot of people about different areas of town before we moved back and most gave a "mid-town has a high crime rate" response. Now maybe we didn't asked enough people, or maybe we didn't ask up and down the socio ecconomic ladder. Maybe we got bad info. Maybe.....

Since I don't call people morons, ignorant, stupid, etc, I'll refrain from doing so now............but............................

I'm very confused here. Does ignorant not mean what I think it means? I'm not trying to be difficult, or act like a jerk, I just don't get this.

Dictionary.com defines Ignorant as:

Quote:1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3. uninformed; unaware.
4. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.

You didn't know much about the crime rate. You admit it youself. You were ignorant of the facts. It is not an insult, nor should it be taken as one. There are many many things that I am ignorant of, for example: Heart Transplant Surgery, how to change the clutch in a 1983 Ford Pickup, or what it's like to watch a football game in Neyland Stadium.

So I am I missing something here (no coffee today) or does ignorant have some connotations I'm unaware of?

I believe it comes down to semantics. When calling someone ignorant, I believe it to be a blanket statement about the person as a whole. Now, if you want to say someone is ignorant in regard to specific subject matter, as you did about heart transplant surgery then I have no problem with that.

Re-read JT's post and take the" ignorant" in context and I suggest he was using the word as a generalization about me. Taking a shot if you will.

If you disagree with my assessment then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Plus JT never made your argument in coming back after my post and despite our little back and forth here, he seems to be a reasonably intelligent person and would of/could of made your argument if he in fact felt as you do.

It's not my fault you are particularly sensitive. I meant ignorant in the definition form about being uninformed. You can take that however you want, it's not my job to be a therapist to you. If you have issues that is your problem, not mine.

JMSTiger Wrote:

phototiger Wrote:

JMSTiger Wrote:

TigerTwice Wrote:

phototiger Wrote:MEMPHIS CRIME TRACKER by zip code

look up your area . enjoy.

(eveergreen is 38112 (part of it) btw))

http://www.memphiscrimetracker.com/zip

I like the CrimeMapper website: https://crimemapper.memphispolice.org

In the past 30 days, within 1/2 mile of Overton Park & Evergreen, there have been:

8 burglaries (6 residential)
9 larcenies (non-vehicle)
11 larcenies (vehicle)
1 motor vehicle theft

I'm not knocking the area, but daddyodewy may consider this a high crime area.

Honestly, though, I'd rather live in the city and have crime statistics that are higher (I feel like I minimize my chances of being a victim by being aware of my surroundings, etc.) and have rapidly appreciating property values than live in a very low or zero crime area that has no appreciation. Obviously, little/no crime and appreciating property values are the ideal but that's less common in this area. Parts of Germantown fit that bill, but that's largely just due to statistical reasons, such as most of G'town isn't within 1/2 mile or 1 mile of a commercial area. Most of the crimes in my area are burglaries/thefts from the Primacy Parkway commercial area that's about a mile from my house.

It also depends how you look at the crimemapper. I keep close tabs on it for my area for my community association (I live north of Poplar, south of Walnut Grove, just west of Poplar Plaza). Our crime has dropped sharply over the last 6 months on the "nicer" streets (streets where the more affluent, single family homes are located). Now, where you have streets where there is an abundance of low income rental property, crime really has not dropped. Only someone who lives in my community would know the difference between the nice and not so nice streets, where as someone who looked at the crimemapper who did not know much about my area maybe would be alarmed by what they saw happening 1/2 mile from my house. As we all know, in Memphis you can have a street with million dollar homes on it (like Goodwyn where the woman was raped) and no crime and two streets over you have low income rental with a good deal of crime.

yeah! let's run those low income renter thugs out of town on a rail.

I don't know how you get that from my very reasoned comments about crime in Memphis. It is well documented that poverty breeds crime in our society. I was unaware that this is now considered a controversial idea.

no i was serious. i have renters next to me and they could be the biggest nusiances in the area. concidentally, they are the ONLY renters.


property ownership tends to breed a degree of responsibility. tends to.

Bill83 Wrote:

daddyodewy Wrote:Plus JT never made your argument in coming back after my post and despite our little back and forth here, he seems to be a reasonably intelligent person and would of/could of made your argument if he in fact felt as you do.

That's a debatable supposition (he hasn't convinced me of the same), but he is a self proclaimed expert on what constitutes a racist and claims experience with the sweeping philosophical bent of all inhabitants of OB and Bartlett.

You seem to have some vendetta against me from some past discussions that you can't let go. A friend of mine is a therapist, I can give you her number if you can't let go of an internet discussion. If you think you are a racist, you probably are... and it's something you can work on with your therapist.

phototiger Wrote:

JMSTiger Wrote:

phototiger Wrote:

JMSTiger Wrote:

TigerTwice Wrote:

phototiger Wrote:MEMPHIS CRIME TRACKER by zip code

look up your area . enjoy.

(eveergreen is 38112 (part of it) btw))

http://www.memphiscrimetracker.com/zip

I like the CrimeMapper website: https://crimemapper.memphispolice.org

In the past 30 days, within 1/2 mile of Overton Park & Evergreen, there have been:

8 burglaries (6 residential)
9 larcenies (non-vehicle)
11 larcenies (vehicle)
1 motor vehicle theft

I'm not knocking the area, but daddyodewy may consider this a high crime area.

Honestly, though, I'd rather live in the city and have crime statistics that are higher (I feel like I minimize my chances of being a victim by being aware of my surroundings, etc.) and have rapidly appreciating property values than live in a very low or zero crime area that has no appreciation. Obviously, little/no crime and appreciating property values are the ideal but that's less common in this area. Parts of Germantown fit that bill, but that's largely just due to statistical reasons, such as most of G'town isn't within 1/2 mile or 1 mile of a commercial area. Most of the crimes in my area are burglaries/thefts from the Primacy Parkway commercial area that's about a mile from my house.

It also depends how you look at the crimemapper. I keep close tabs on it for my area for my community association (I live north of Poplar, south of Walnut Grove, just west of Poplar Plaza). Our crime has dropped sharply over the last 6 months on the "nicer" streets (streets where the more affluent, single family homes are located). Now, where you have streets where there is an abundance of low income rental property, crime really has not dropped. Only someone who lives in my community would know the difference between the nice and not so nice streets, where as someone who looked at the crimemapper who did not know much about my area maybe would be alarmed by what they saw happening 1/2 mile from my house. As we all know, in Memphis you can have a street with million dollar homes on it (like Goodwyn where the woman was raped) and no crime and two streets over you have low income rental with a good deal of crime.

yeah! let's run those low income renter thugs out of town on a rail.

I don't know how you get that from my very reasoned comments about crime in Memphis. It is well documented that poverty breeds crime in our society. I was unaware that this is now considered a controversial idea.

no i was serious. i have renters next to me and they could be the biggest nusiances in the area. concidentally, they are the ONLY renters.


property ownership tends to breed a degree of responsibility. tends to.

Well, we certainly agree on the benefits of property ownership. It transforms people's outlooks on life.

JTiger Wrote:

Bill83 Wrote:

daddyodewy Wrote:Plus JT never made your argument in coming back after my post and despite our little back and forth here, he seems to be a reasonably intelligent person and would of/could of made your argument if he in fact felt as you do.

That's a debatable supposition (he hasn't convinced me of the same), but he is a self proclaimed expert on what constitutes a racist and claims experience with the sweeping philosophical bent of all inhabitants of OB and Bartlett.

You seem to have some vendetta against me from some past discussions that you can't let go. A friend of mine is a therapist, I can give you her number if you can't let go of an internet discussion. If you think you are a racist, you probably are... and it's something you can work on with your therapist.

I have a therapist....his name is Jonnie, Jonnie Walker and he's black.

newtiger Wrote:

JTiger Wrote:

Bill83 Wrote:

daddyodewy Wrote:Plus JT never made your argument in coming back after my post and despite our little back and forth here, he seems to be a reasonably intelligent person and would of/could of made your argument if he in fact felt as you do.

That's a debatable supposition (he hasn't convinced me of the same), but he is a self proclaimed expert on what constitutes a racist and claims experience with the sweeping philosophical bent of all inhabitants of OB and Bartlett.

You seem to have some vendetta against me from some past discussions that you can't let go. A friend of mine is a therapist, I can give you her number if you can't let go of an internet discussion. If you think you are a racist, you probably are... and it's something you can work on with your therapist.

I have a therapist....his name is Jonnie, Jonnie Walker and he's black.

He's a good man. ;-)