Reb --- you must remember that Byrne was the #1 QB the entire spring and fall ... the offensive package was molded after his skills and style. Hudgens was a freshman and is now a sophomore (probably progressed his game quite a bit).

UncleZ Wrote:Hoka, maybe you should stick to the Droppings forum. You have a short leash on the main forum, and you probably would not be pleased to only be able to post in Droppings.

(is this better, Tiger fans? I am trying to remember to use BLUE here rather than red).

Granted - I've kept it pretty civil on this board.... I think this thread is about the most inflamatory I've been on your main forum.

Tigers2BeChamps Wrote:Reb --- you must remember that Byrne was the #1 QB the entire spring and fall ... the offensive package was molded after his skills and style. Hudgens was a freshman and is now a sophomore (probably progressed his game quite a bit).

I thought it was widely thought last year that it was a QB competition all the way through fall practice. The starter was only named a few days before the Ole Miss game.

Is that wrong?

TheHokaRebel Wrote:

Tigers2BeChamps Wrote:Reb --- you must remember that Byrne was the #1 QB the entire spring and fall ... the offensive package was molded after his skills and style. Hudgens was a freshman and is now a sophomore (probably progressed his game quite a bit).

I thought it was widely thought last year that it was a QB competition all the way through fall practice. The starter was only named a few days before the Ole Miss game.

Is that wrong?

yes. byrne was solid after spring practice.

TheHokaRebel Wrote:You mean last year? when the biggest thing on this board was to call CEO "coach 0-1"?

Yeah - that didn't seem to last too long for some reason.

congrats! now he is "Coach 3-8".

and he looks just as ignorant as he did last year.

UMTigerfan Wrote:

TheHokaRebel Wrote:You mean last year? when the biggest thing on this board was to call CEO "coach 0-1"?

Yeah - that didn't seem to last too long for some reason.

congrats! now he is "Coach 3-8".

and he looks just as ignorant as he did last year.

He pulled off a pretty impressive recruiting class after that losing season, though.

Maybe he'll work out, maybe he won't... but if he keeps pooling talent like his 2006 class, my worries will be at ease.

TheHokaRebel Wrote:Honestly, I don't give much credence to MSU's SEC title loss. That means that the most glorified moment in their football history post-WWII was a loss, which is sad. They've won one SEC title ever, and that was in 1941. They made one trip to the SEC title game, and the coach that took them there also got them put on probation not long after. That means their one moment of glory in modern football came under a coach that cheated.

None of that changes the fact that you are still the only SEC West team to have never played in Atlanta...which is sad.

When you say last year it reminds me of the beating that you guys took in Oxford. What was the score of that game? 72-49... It was a good game though

I can't beleive y'all are running down West again for not having a backup QB ready to play. Cut the guy some slack.

memtigsfan4life Wrote:When you say last year it reminds me of the beating that you guys took in Oxford. What was the score of that game? 72-49... It was a good game though

I don't know, but we smoked y'all the only time we played in the FedEx Forum. I guess we'll do it again this year.

Basketball and football, lucky for Ole Miss?!?, are totally unrelated.

No, you didn't "cut us any slack" last year and I don't believe that there should be an '*' by the game saying we lost because of injuries.

BUT

Injuries did play a HUGE part in our losing the game. We only lost 10-6 and that was without a lot of our starting talent. I am not complaining about the game, I AM complaining about the attitude that Ole Miss fans have about the game.

Were there a lot of injuries in 2003 for you guys?!? Or in 2004?!? So of the last three games, we have won 2. You can talk about the all-time series and how you "own" us, but it doesn't matter now.

There are only 5 players on our team that have played for a losing record and haven't gone to a bowl. How many players do you have on your team that have had a winning record and gone to a bowl?

Now that's funny lmfao That's good material lmfao

uofmbrad Wrote:None of that changes the fact that you are still the only SEC West team to have never played in Atlanta...which is sad.

the lilly-white days of Archie Manning have certainly passed them by, haven't they??

uofmbrad Wrote:

TheHokaRebel Wrote:Honestly, I don't give much credence to MSU's SEC title loss. That means that the most glorified moment in their football history post-WWII was a loss, which is sad. They've won one SEC title ever, and that was in 1941. They made one trip to the SEC title game, and the coach that took them there also got them put on probation not long after. That means their one moment of glory in modern football came under a coach that cheated.

None of that changes the fact that you are still the only SEC West team to have never played in Atlanta...which is sad.

As a Tiger fan, I wouldn't call any part of anyone's football history sad. We've had as much success, if not more, in SEC play since it expanded to 12 teams, as Arkansas and Mississippi State. We just picked the wrong year to have a good season. That's the only reason they've been to the SEC title game, and we haven't. As far as I'm concerned, getting there is not the goal anyway. Winning the SEC title is the only thing that really matters, and only 3 teams from the West have done that since divisional play.

Winning the West in a down year and getting your butts kicked in the SEC Championship game is nothing to brag about. In the end, your SEC West flag is just a 2nd place trophy. The only one that matters is the outright title.

That's why Orgeron has stated his goal to be to win the SEC and going to the Sugar Bowl. His goal isn't to just win the SEC West, though that's a step in winning the SEC Championship. If you win your division and lose the title game, you have won the same number of championships as the 11 other teams in the SEC that didn't win the SEC title.

bmglennreb Wrote:[

As a Tiger fan, I wouldn't call any part of anyone's football history sad.

Winning the West in a down year and getting your butts kicked in the SEC Championship game is nothing to brag about. In the end, your SEC West flag is just a 2nd place trophy. The only one that matters is the outright title.

1. the difference is that most Memphis fans don't think we something that we are clearly not. OM fans in general suffer from delusions of grandeur and an inflated sense of self.

2.i find it funny the you denigrate MSU's SEC West flag as a "2nd Place Trophy" when OM flies a "SEC West Co-Champ" banner after losing to lsu in 2003

C'mon, you guys...keep it civil here. Take the smack to the appropriate place.

I will say this, bmglennreb, you are at least worth talking with. You give your opinions, totally Rebel slanted but that is to be expected, but can also discuss things with clarity and civility. I am glad you don't resort to the name calling that some of the other posters do.

I think there are a majority of Ole Miss fans that like to believe their program is one step removed from the glory days of the past.

NONE of the players, on either team, were even alive when Ole Miss dominated. While some of them might be fans like I am talking about, most just want to play football at an $EC school and get an education. They don't have the delusions that they are national championship caliber team (at least not now) and know where there are in the ranks. Middle of the $ec at best.

We, both Memphis and Ole Miss, are in similar situations as far as building programs. We have both realized the importance of facilities, recruiting and having a winning program. While Ole Miss has the big advantage of playing in the $EC and getting its money, we play in C-USA so our competition level is not as high. We won't have to reach as far to dominate our league.

While it will take some time to get back to the days that I won't mind it if Ole Miss goes 11-1 (thanks to Coach 0 and some obnoxious fans that I have to deal with), I at least am glad there are some fans that post on this board that have a little class.

UMTigerfan Wrote:

bmglennreb Wrote:[

As a Tiger fan, I wouldn't call any part of anyone's football history sad.

Winning the West in a down year and getting your butts kicked in the SEC Championship game is nothing to brag about. In the end, your SEC West flag is just a 2nd place trophy. The only one that matters is the outright title.

1. the difference is that most Memphis fans don't think we something that we are clearly not. OM fans in general suffer from delusions of grandeur and an inflated sense of self.

2.i find it funny the you denigrate MSU's SEC West flag as a "2nd Place Trophy" when OM flies a "SEC West Co-Champ" banner after losing to lsu in 2003

Exactly, our SEC West banner means just as much as MSU and Arkansas's banners, because none of us won the title. They're all 2nd place banners.

UMTigerfan Wrote:

TheHokaRebel Wrote:You mean last year? when the biggest thing on this board was to call CEO "coach 0-1"?

Yeah - that didn't seem to last too long for some reason.

congrats! now he is "Coach 3-8".

and he looks just as ignorant as he did last year.

lmfao

bmglenreb....once again you need to get your facts straight. MSU didn't exactly get blown out against UT in the SEC title game...in fact MSU was ahead with less than 10 minutes to go in the game after Kevin Prentiss returned that punt for a TD. Also from what i hear Miller could have played that year against MSU but chose not to.