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LOL... I guarantee you Dahntay has a better first year than Wilcox did!
And did you not say that Wilcox would be the steal of the draft?
FWIW, Carlos Boozer was by far the steal of that draft.
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Is that all ya got? Go home little boy.
If you want to talk to smack to me you better step it up.
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06-30-2003 01:36 AM |
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nate jonesacc
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Terpy Wrote:Is that all ya got? Go home little boy.
If you want to talk to smack to me you better step it up.
If you can't answer a simple question... you might as well just leave this message board... things were much nicer without your typical babble.
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06-30-2003 10:06 PM |
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I'll make a poll and prove you wrong you little *** wipe. :laugh:
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nate jonesacc Wrote:LOL... I guarantee you Dahntay has a better first year than Wilcox did!
And did you not say that Wilcox would be the steal of the draft?
FWIW, Carlos Boozer was by far the steal of that draft.
OK this is kinda stupid in many levels. Comparing Wilcox to Jones can only bring on scepticism. Wilcox was drafted (too early) by a team that stock piles good players and sits them on the bench for marketing purposes only to trade them to good teams once the player's value goes above league minimum. Jones was drafted by a team the thinks they are on the rise and needs to play all the players they draft for lack of anyone better to play.
#1 Wilcox is 6' 10 with a 40" vertical. He is a defensive power with a short range shot (that needs experience). Jones is 6' 5 (with thick shoes on) with a good leaping ability and an average at best face-the-basket shot. Jones is a good floor-to-middle defender. Wilcox is an above the rim defender. Jones will play more minutes than Wilcox---not because he is better but because he is not on the Clippers team.
#2 Wilcox would destroy Jones if you dared to compare them on the same level at the same position with the same minutes which should never even factor since they don't play the same position.
#3 If the draft was held again today and Wilcox was in it again, he would still be drafted 20 picks ahead of Jones. That will never change. He has more size, more athletic ability, and more NBA potential.
The Duke NBA curse will not change for Jones. Wilcox may never be the next KG. On the flip side, he will certainly be a better player 5 year's from now than DJ. Hold me to that and we will talk in 5 years.
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nate jonesacc Wrote:Terpy Wrote:nate jonesacc Wrote:Riding the pine @ Memphis? Nah... he'll play a good amount of minutes... probably between 20-25 mins a game.
Not once they realize that they made a big mistake and he cant play shotting guard. <a href='http://www.angelfire.com/super2/bandwagonboy/' target='_blank'>Tahntay Jones</a> has no game. :laugh:
Ya know Richard Jefferson? That'll be Dahntay in 2 years.
That is the craziest "Duke biased" leap I have ever seen you make Nate. You are usually smarter than this. Comparing Jones to Jefferson. Are you kidding? How in any way could you make this argument? Besides the obvious flaws with this statement (like size, position, and athletic ability), please explain how in this lifetime this would ever happen. The way I see it, the only way this could happen is if Jefferson's game declines about 60% down to Jone's maximum potential.
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You Terp fans are too funny. Get a life, Dahntay will be alot better next season that Lonny Baxter was in his rookie season. Same goes for Juan Dixon. You win 1 national title & you think you are basketball gods.
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07-01-2003 11:40 AM |
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If you look at Dixon's <a href='http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?statsId=3615' target='_blank'>game log</a> you will see that when he got significant minutes he was able to score and the reason for this was he has a great mid-range game something Dahntay Jones doesnt have -- at all. Jones can try to dribble drive and take it to the rim every time like he did in college but its not going to work against the big men in the Western Conference, hes justs not strong enough or fast enough. As soon as Jerry West and Company see that Jones has no jump shot he is going to be riding the pine alot in Memphis. Heck he may even go down as the biggest bust West has ever drafted. :laugh:
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07-01-2003 12:43 PM |
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And as for Lonny Baxter...the expectations werent there, he was a 2nd round pick. He did however play a respectable 12 minutes a game and had a handfull of double-digit scoring games.
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07-01-2003 12:48 PM |
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kaisersayzo Wrote:nate jonesacc Wrote:Terpy Wrote:nate jonesacc Wrote:Riding the pine @ Memphis? Nah... he'll play a good amount of minutes... probably between 20-25 mins a game.
Not once they realize that they made a big mistake and he cant play shotting guard. <a href='http://www.angelfire.com/super2/bandwagonboy/' target='_blank'>Tahntay Jones</a> has no game. :laugh:
Ya know Richard Jefferson? That'll be Dahntay in 2 years.
That is the craziest "Duke biased" leap I have ever seen you make Nate. You are usually smarter than this. Comparing Jones to Jefferson. Are you kidding? How in any way could you make this argument? Besides the obvious flaws with this statement (like size, position, and athletic ability), please explain how in this lifetime this would ever happen. The way I see it, the only way this could happen is if Jefferson's game declines about 60% down to Jone's maximum potential.
Both have inconsistent jumpshots... great defenders... very athletic... weak handles... about 6'6/6'7... great dunkers.
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07-01-2003 01:31 PM |
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nate jonesacc
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Terpy Wrote:And as for Lonny Baxter...the expectations werent there, he was a 2nd round pick. He did however play a respectable 12 minutes a game and had a handfull of double-digit scoring games.
He should have made All-Rookie team...
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07-01-2003 01:31 PM |
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nate jonesacc
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Terpy Wrote:If you look at Dixon's <a href='http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?statsId=3615' target='_blank'>game log</a> you will see that when he got significant minutes he was able to score and the reason for this was he has a great mid-range game something Dahntay Jones doesnt have -- at all. Jones can try to dribble drive and take it to the rim every time like he did in college but its not going to work against the big men in the Western Conference, hes justs not strong enough or fast enough. As soon as Jerry West and Company see that Jones has no jump shot he is going to be riding the pine alot in Memphis. Heck he may even go down as the biggest bust West has ever drafted. :laugh:
Do you even watch college basketball?
You are an idiot... Dahntay's OFFENSIVE GAME IS MID-RANGE and closer... his offensive weakness is his outside shooting... his BREAD AND BUTTER is his 12-15 ft. jumpshot... Even an idiot like you should know that.
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I'll own up to admitting that it was me who said that Dahntay would be in the NBDL this year. Obviously, I was wrong.
I don't like Dahntay, but that's beside the point. He's a pretty versatile player, and I could see him having a decent career in the NBA. But, I would much rather that happened to somebody like Nate James -- whom I always respected when he was at dook.
-JD
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07-01-2003 02:06 PM |
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nate jonesacc Wrote:Terpy Wrote:And as for Lonny Baxter...the expectations werent there, he was a 2nd round pick. He did however play a respectable 12 minutes a game and had a handfull of double-digit scoring games.
He should have made All-Rookie team...
If you would have read my post you would see that my point was that no one expected anything from Lonny. His 12 minutes per game exceeded my expectations for him. I didnt think he would get a chance to play at all. I believe that given the opportunity he can be a productive NBA player. If he had been by a team with no front court depth such as Cleveland perhaps he would have gotten the opportunity but instead he was drafted by Chicago where had had to play behind a number of talented players such as Tyson Chandler, Eddie Curry, Marcus Fizer and Donyell Marshall. Now before you do your little :rolleyes: and tell me that all of those guys suck please tell me any big guys on Cleveland other than Big Z that are better than those guys. If Lonny was drafted by Cleveland I believe he would have put up numbers comparable to Boozers, simply because there are no big guys with any talent there and there happens to be several in Chicago.
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roxborobluedevil Wrote:You Terp fans are too funny. Get a life, Dahntay will be alot better next season that Lonny Baxter was in his rookie season. Same goes for Juan Dixon. You win 1 national title & you think you are basketball gods.
Look...I don't remember saying anything about Lonny or Juan. You brought it up not me.
By the way, I agree that Jones will have a better year than all the terps from last year. He is also not playing behind Michael Jordan.
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nate jonesacc Wrote:kaisersayzo Wrote:nate jonesacc Wrote:Terpy Wrote:nate jonesacc Wrote:Riding the pine @ Memphis? Nah... he'll play a good amount of minutes... probably between 20-25 mins a game.
Not once they realize that they made a big mistake and he cant play shotting guard. <a href='http://www.angelfire.com/super2/bandwagonboy/' target='_blank'>Tahntay Jones</a> has no game. :laugh:
Ya know Richard Jefferson? That'll be Dahntay in 2 years.
That is the craziest "Duke biased" leap I have ever seen you make Nate. You are usually smarter than this. Comparing Jones to Jefferson. Are you kidding? How in any way could you make this argument? Besides the obvious flaws with this statement (like size, position, and athletic ability), please explain how in this lifetime this would ever happen. The way I see it, the only way this could happen is if Jefferson's game declines about 60% down to Jone's maximum potential.
Both have inconsistent jumpshots... great defenders... very athletic... weak handles... about 6'6/6'7... great dunkers.
Come on Nate. You are comparing a know star to your expectations. Jefferson has a good 2 inches on Jones and a bigger body. Great Dunkers? Jefferson is a great dunker in te NBA. Jones will be lucky to get by his defender on the way to getting his sh*t swatted. I will happily eat my words if Jones turns out to be half the machine Jefferson is. Until then, keep holding onto Jones in college.
by the way, Wilcox was one of the best if not the best dunkers in college when he played. I am not saying he will be one of the best in the nba. Please don't even try to compare Wilcox and Jones regarding this matter.
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