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Then go to the column to the left, and prepared to be irate by clicking the article that is titled "What needs to happen at College Park"

UMD might not always have the smartest fans, but the Nazi/Len Bias remarks really sums up the institution known as Duke. Wake up rich boy!

kaisersayzo Wrote:UMD might not always have the smartest fans, but the Nazi/Len Bias remarks really sums up the institution known as Duke. Wake up rich boy!

Did you just entirely miss the brownshirt explaination and how the Len Bias statement is a comparison?

The brownshirt statement is a comparison of tactics, not cause. Both used intimidation and violence to push their will on others. But their causes were different as the writer stated.

The Len Bias statement is a comparison. Lefty was/is known for the Bias problem/scandal, and Williams will be known for the violence of his MD fans and his failure to acknowledge and solve the problem.

[quote="T-Monay820"] [quote="kaisersayzo"] UMD might not always have the smartest fans, but the Nazi/Len Bias remarks really sums up the institution known as Duke.

Gary has done very little... Asking them to stop sure has not worked. He needs to take drastic action if you want to salvage the national reputation of your fanbase.

kaisersayzo Wrote:(1)Bias Died because he was stupid, not because Lefty covered it up.

(2)Now I don't know if you have been to comcast recently, but Gary has been regularly addressing the student sections before the game to try to calm things down. I have witnessed his outrage to prior antics personally and I assure you that he is not pushing this type of behavior.

(1) I never said it was Lefty's fault, but he is associated with it because he played under him.

(2) Obviously a) they have no respect for him like the Crazies do for K, b) they weren't paying attention, or c) they don't give a ****, because his talks obviously aren't working.

nate jonesacc Wrote:Gary has done very little... Asking them to stop sure has not worked. He needs to take drastic action if you want to salvage the national reputation of your fanbase.

You know this might surprise you, but I do agree that changes need to be made. Things are getting out of hand at big games. My argument with this pompus arrogant article is that this guy has sentenced Gary Williams for a crime not even committed. I watch a game like UNC and Duke last night and think how nice it would be to see Grant Hill at Comcast supporting his team. I know there is no way a class act like him would show up at this point to College Park. But comdeming UMD and it's fans in such a general way for things that have not happened is ridiculous (much like the old guy who wrote the article).

I do believe with the bad press brought onto our school, changes are coming quickly. Gary has said many times that this type of behavior is embarrassing and unacceptable. He also remarks about how inportant the fans are and how their behavior represents our school. Don't think for a minute that he is sitting on his hands.

T-Monay820 Wrote:

kaisersayzo Wrote:(1)Bias Died because he was stupid, not because Lefty covered it up.

(2)Now I don't know if you have been to comcast recently, but Gary has been regularly addressing the student sections before the game to try to calm things down.&nbsp; I have witnessed his outrage to prior antics personally and I assure you that he is not pushing this type of behavior.

(1) I never said it was Lefty's fault, but he is associated with it because he played under him.

(2) Obviously a) they have no respect for him like the Crazies do for K, b) they weren't paying attention, or c) they don't give a ****, because his talks obviously aren't working.

Ridiculous.

1) Based on your (and the idiot who wrote the article) assumption, then Coach K is responsible for JWill's accident and Christian's drug problem and Grant Hill's ankle and EB's problems. You are proving my point with your ignorance.

2) Duke has been a National Powerhouse for years and the behavior was established a long time ago. UMD is new to the Powerhouse ranking and need time to learn from mistakes and establish appropriate behavior. Just because you have drone fans who were losers in high school and show absolutely no individualism what so ever, doesn't mean Coack K has some great power over the students. These snot nosed wedgie losers have been told what to do all their lives, why shoould college be any different?

ps. Note: I'm just generalizing like you did because you opened the door. How's that classification feel?

kaisersayzo Wrote:1) Based on your (and the idiot who wrote the article) assumption, then Coach K is responsible for JWill's accident and Christian's drug problem and Grant Hill's ankle and EB's problems. You are proving my point with your ignorance.

Once again, read my quote:

Quote:(1) I never said it was Lefty's fault, but he is associated with it because he played under him.

Bias died right out of college on the night of the draft. JWill had been on his own for a year and had already spent a year in the NBA, Christian has been gone almost a decade, as has Grant. They played under him, but they didn't have their problems immediatley after they stopped playing at the college level.

T-Monay820 Wrote:

kaisersayzo Wrote:1) Based on your (and the idiot who wrote the article) assumption, then Coach K is responsible for JWill's accident and Christian's drug problem and Grant Hill's ankle and EB's problems. You are proving my point with your ignorance.

Once again, read my quote:

Quote:(1) I never said it was Lefty's fault, but he is associated with it because he played under him.

Bias died right out of college on the night of the draft. JWill had been on his own for a year and had already spent a year in the NBA, Christian has been gone almost a decade, as has Grant. They played under him, but they didn't have their problems immediatley after they stopped playing at the college level.

Now you are saying there is a time limit then huh? The point is Len Bias was no longer in the program. No one has ever proven that he had any drug issues in college. Just like JWill and Christian, he made a bad choice once he left the college life. Whether this was a day or a year or 10 years, I would never pin the Dukies pro issues on Coach K. Your arguement is weak at best. Len Died by his own stupidity and JWill ruined his career because of his...not their coaches in college.

kaisersayzo Wrote:Now you are saying there is a time limit then huh? The point is Len Bias was no longer in the program. No one has ever proven that he had any drug issues in college. Just like JWill and Christian, he made a bad choice once he left the college life. Whether this was a day or a year or 10 years, I would never pin the Dukies pro issues on Coach K. Your arguement is weak at best. Len Died by his own stupidity and JWill ruined his career because of his...not their coaches in college.

Why do you keep on going off in random directions?

Let me tell it to you again:

It is not Lefty's fault that Bias died of a drug OD. But Lefty is associated to the death (regardless of whether he had anything to do with it or not, just like JWill is linked to the Bulls).

T-Monay820 Wrote:

kaisersayzo Wrote:Now you are saying there is a time limit then huh? The point is Len Bias was no longer in the program. No one has ever proven that he had any drug issues in college. Just like JWill and Christian, he made a bad choice once he left the college life. Whether this was a day or a year or 10 years, I would never pin the Dukies pro issues on Coach K. Your arguement is weak at best. Len Died by his own stupidity and JWill ruined his career because of his...not their coaches in college.

Why do you keep on going off in random directions?

Let me tell it to you again:

It is not Lefty's fault that Bias died of a drug OD. But Lefty is associated to the death (regardless of whether he had anything to do with it or not, just like JWill is linked to the Bulls).

Where are you going with this? Bias should be linked to Boston then. He was already a member of the team then. Come on T, you're a little shady on how you associate negative things when it comes to Duke aren't you?

Please follow along. I (unlike you) do NOT blame Duke and Maryland for the stupidity of JWill, Christian, Bias, etc. I was just pointing out your irrational thinking. It seems that the old Duke double standard it yet again showing it's ugly head. Nothing bad ever happens while Duke players are in school right? Maybe because Coach K has then in such close quarters and follows their every move day and night? You and I know that is horse sh*t. I'm not going to get into all the bad decisions Duke players have made recently while attending the great Duke University...you know what I'm talking about.

Just drop the pretense. JWill, Bias, Christian, Hurley all did dumb things because they chose to..not because their college or coach or teammates made them.