Terpy Wrote:I find it extremely offensive that he wants people to mock DJ Strawberry by filling plastic baggies with flour. And I think it is troubling that none of the editors find it offensive either.

Even if they do usually decide to let whatever that slimeball writes go to print it doesnt mean they have to or that they always will. Also unless you know them how do you know that they have never told the guy "we arent printing this crap"?

Because I know someone who used to work at the Chronicle and I know how it is run.

[quote="T-Monay820"] [quote="Terpy"] [quote="T-Monay820"] [quote="Terpy"] I find it extremely offensive that he wants people to mock DJ Strawberry by filling plastic baggies with flour.

T-Monay820 Wrote:

Terpy Wrote:I find it extremely offensive that he wants people to mock DJ Strawberry by filling plastic baggies with flour.  And I think it is troubling that none of the editors find it offensive either.

Oh yeah, and wearing shirts that say "**** Duke" and chanting FU JJ is any better.

What you are missing is that the article is printed in a public paper format. This paper is edited and authorized. You can't stop some people from acting like idiots but your sure can stop dumb-a$$ articles from being published for all the public to see. Typical Duke thinking here bud!

kaisersayzo Wrote:What you are missing is that the article is printed in a public paper format. This paper is edited and authorized. You can't stop some people from acting like idiots but your sure can stop dumb-a$$ articles from being published for all the public to see. Typical Duke thinking here bud!

Ever heard of police or campus security? A person who streaks gets tossed form the building, or even a Duke student with only a spedo on is forced to cover up, yet the MD police did nothing about what the students were wearing. And national TV is not more public than a Student paper? Double standard.

the police cannot hinder the first ammendment rights of the fans...sorry...

T-Monay820 Wrote:

kaisersayzo Wrote:What you are missing is that the article is printed in a public paper format. This paper is edited and authorized.  You can't stop some people from acting like idiots but your sure can stop dumb-a$$ articles from being published for all the public to see. Typical Duke thinking here bud!

Ever heard of police or campus security? A person who streaks gets tossed form the building, or even a Duke student with only a spedo on is forced to cover up, yet the MD police did nothing about what the students were wearing. And national TV is not more public than a Student paper? Double standard.

Yo T...the last time I checked the constitution stills protects the freedom of speech. I'm also pretty sure that UMD has no dress code. If and I suspect when the rules of our public university change to prohibit wearing these shirts and foul language, you will see a real crack-down. I am not going to argue with you that chanting F U to JJ or wearing those shirts make us look very good. I am actually embarrassed by those idiots. What you keep missing is that these stupid UMD chants and shirts are pointed at specific players and teams because of rivalry....not because their parents died from aids or their Dad has drug problems. Do you see yet? If not, why don't you put yourself on the court and have fans chanting something about your brother being Gay or your Grandmother's drinking problems and see what that feels like compared to fans yelling at you for your own actions. Maybe then you would get it.

I hate to pull a nate but you didnt answer my question Tea bag.

DamascusTerp2 Wrote:the police cannot hinder the first ammendment rights of the fans...sorry...

They can still refuse admission to students. There's no law protecting their "right to attend sports games".

T-Monay820 Wrote:

DamascusTerp2 Wrote:the police cannot hinder the first ammendment rights of the fans...sorry...

They can still refuse admission to students. There's no law protecting their "right to attend sports games".

I totally agree with you T. They should stop those UMD fans. Kick them out on their a$$es...there are plenty more people who would kill for those seats. On the flip side, the same should be done to those fans who carry in bags of flour and chant ridiculous things to players for the actions of their parents. If you don't think the media has slipped those into public sight, then you are sorely mistaken. I clearly remember hearing chants at Juan during many televised games that were less than acceptable.

kaisersayzo Wrote:On the flip side, the same should be done to those fans who carry in bags of flour and chant ridiculous things to players for the actions of their parents. If you don't think the media has slipped those into public sight, then you are sorely mistaken. I clearly remember hearing chants at Juan during many televised games that were less than acceptable.

Note that this hasn't even happened. Its just one guy talking about how we can either do the same level **** as some MD fans (he does state what came to his mind, which doesn't mean he actually recommends it, just like if I said I thought about nuking San Francisco doesn't mean I recommend it. Its just a thought.) or raise themselves to a higher standards. If it does happen, then I will be the first to apologize on this board (as I said earlier). And what chants were said about Juan? I went to the game @ Cameron two years ago and heard nothing.

It was the UVA fans who chanted at Juan, not Duke. :rolleyes:

nate jonesacc Wrote:It was the UVA fans who chanted at Juan, not Duke. :rolleyes:

Look Nate...I was talking to T. I never said it was Duke...show me where I said that. I was discussing bad behavior in the stands and my stand on the incidents that have taken place in the NCAA. Pull your g-string out of your a$$ and quit being so defensive. Allthough Duke may have the most annoying geek-ish cheer sheet fans in the country, I do NOT think they are or have been offensive. Got it?

T-Monay820 Wrote:

kaisersayzo Wrote:On the flip side, the same should be done to those fans who carry in bags of flour and chant ridiculous things to players for the actions of their parents.  If you don't think the media has slipped those into public sight, then you are sorely mistaken. I clearly remember hearing chants at Juan during many televised games that were less than acceptable.

Note that this hasn't even happened. Its just one guy talking about how we can either do the same level **** as some MD fans (he does state what came to his mind, which doesn't mean he actually recommends it, just like if I said I thought about nuking San Francisco doesn't mean I recommend it. Its just a thought.) or raise themselves to a higher standards. If it does happen, then I will be the first to apologize on this board (as I said earlier). And what chants were said about Juan? I went to the game @ Cameron two years ago and heard nothing.

T I never said it was Duke. Like I stated to Nate, I think Duke fans ARE well-behaved (a little boring but well behaved). The Juan chants were at a VA game where fans were chanting "crack-baby" and other stuff. These types of chants have graduated to DJ "crack-head" chants and far worse...again not at Duke. I really hope that Duke doesn't stoop to the same levels that VA and FSU and Tech have this year. I don't agree with the FU t-shirts or the FU chants to JJ. The funny thing is I think the FU chants actually helped JJ at Comcast. All that said, the article by a Dukie does show that that behavior whether carried out or not does manifest in all ACC schools. The Duke reputation is good and an article like this is offensive. If it does happen, I hope never to hear another word out of you or Nate on this topic. I honestly don't think it will happen unless UMD comes into Cameron and pulls off an upset. That will be the true test for the Duke fans. But hey, you never know what UMD team will show up. I do know that DJ and McCray will be in JJ's face the entire game so tensions will get high.

T-Monay820 Wrote:

DamascusTerp2 Wrote:the police cannot hinder the first ammendment rights of the fans...sorry...

They can still refuse admission to students. There's no law protecting their "right to attend sports games".

on what grounds?
If you are implying that they can be turned away because of what is written on the t shirts, then you better read up on your first ammendment rights...

DT... Can I walk into a movie theater and yell "FIRE!"?

That's straight from Gary Williams.

People that think Duhon sucks don't know basketball. I agree that a player, a point guard especially, ought to be judged more on wins and losses than ppg.

nate, I'm not looking for bickering, I'm simple stating that you cannot tell the students what not to wear, that is infringing on their first ammendment rights....


and if you walked into a movie and yelled fire, there are numerous charges that I believe can be brought against you....GW may have said it, but it is a terrible analogy...

DamascusTerp2 Wrote:I'm simple stating that you cannot tell the students what not to wear, that is infringing on their first ammendment rights....

You can still refuse to admit students. Sure they may give the security hell over it, but it will help promote the notion that the University won't just wait and hope this "works itself out" and will demonstrate that it is taking an active stand against this "unsportsmanlike conduct". Right now the sports and school administration is trying to rub off the blame and say it will pass only if the students do something about it.

I will admit that this supposedly small section of a-holes that come to games, and are ruining an otherwise wonderful and very exciting conference rivalry, is skewing my opinion of MD fans, but they do get the most media attention, probably similar to Duke being skewed by media hype. The main gripe I have is the assault on Renee Boozer. I could care less if you went and burned down your whole school. It would be a bit excessive, but it's not my program that is lighting up its own campus, so do what you want as far as that.

T-Monay820 Wrote:You can still refuse to admit students.

NO YOU CAN'T...you don't seem to understand what the point is here...the university is not going to risk a freakin lawsuit over first ammendment rights to get rid of a handful of t shirts (and that's all it is, maybe 400 at most at every game)

all it takes is one rich kid and his lawyer daddy to take the university to court if they infrigne upon his rights....do you get that yet?

do you know what the first ammendment is, because you are showing a blatent lack of knowledge, yet you continue to argue...this confuses me...are you arguing because you have this hard-on for maryland and our vulgairty or do you really not understand first ammendment law?

my guess is a little of both...