The dismissal of Mullins and Stanton?

Because I simply do not know.

When you look at how far ETSU athletics has fallen since Mullins' hiring, and that he still calls all the shots, the guy should have been told he wouldn't be kept around after he hired the Science Hill JV coach to be ETSU's volleyball coach as the interim AD.

But here's the deal. Stanton's supporters will talk about Pharmacy schools or performing arts centers and win over people by saying "a University is more than its football team."

So, how do you respond to that?

And is there any way that Mullins could be out? The only way I could see it is if a charasmatic coach led an uprising.

After killing football and the competitiveness of basketball and kicking us out of the So Con, ETSU hoops could go 5-22 for the next several years and I still wouldn't see it impacting Mullins.

The only one I could see doing leading a charge- the only one who doesn't have his or her job to thank for David Mullins or doesn't share his agenda- is Karen Kemp.

And if it's Karen Kemp vs. the world, I'm betting on the world.

Hell freezing over. For whatever the reason stanton and mullins have too many people believing the school is doing good and the people who should care are too busy supporting the big schools around us.

You know, I hate to say this, but you are correct.

Just like these supposed big ETSU fans now championing that the A-Sun seed is as high as the So Con seed, so what conference the Bucs are in is irrelevant.

PittsburghBucs Wrote:You know, I hate to say this, but you are correct.

Just like these supposed big ETSU fans now championing that the A-Sun seed is as high as the So Con seed, so what conference the Bucs are in is irrelevant.

I was pointing out facts. Competition-wise the A-Sun is a step down, prestige wise in the eyes of 99% of the world it was a lateral move. I dislike the A-Sun and know it is a much weaker conference but as for it hurting our rep on the national level, nah... believe what you want but it won't, it sure isn't going to help us which I thought was the whole point.

I'll buy that.

I'll even buy that a lot of recruits who come to ETSU have never heard of the school prior to their recruitment.

However, if you don't think that an Appalachian State coach won't say to a potential recruit- "You don't want to go there- it's a baseball conference- nobody will ever watch you play- we were ranked 10 spots ahead of them in the conference rankings" and that won't have an effect, you're sadly mistaken.

Also, C of C was once an 8 seed out of the So Con. ETSU a 10.

I don't ever see ETSU or any school doing that in the A-Sun.

PittsburghBucs Wrote:Also, C of C was once an 8 seed out of the So Con. ETSU a 10.

I don't ever see ETSU or any school doing that in the A-Sun.

The SoCon can't take credit for CoC's 8 seed. It was their first year in the conference (moving up from what is now the A-Sun) They smoked the field going 19-0 and winning the bid. It was in the A-Sun that CoC had gone to the NCAA several times and pulled the upsets and near upsets, the built thier rep in the A-Sun.

Georgia State got an 11th seed just a few years ago out of the A-Sun whenever Lefty was the coach and they won their first game in the tournament....something the Socon hasn't done since UTC's sweet 16 run.

I think both of the above arguements are nonsense.

You have to look at how the leagues have changed. GSU in today's A-Sun would not have had the strength of schedule to merit an 11 seed, plus I think Drisell had something to do with it as well.

College of Charleston was playing in a Southern Conference that resembled what it is now- assuming you believe the swap of VMI for Elon to be minimal in terms of basketball strength.

Which I do.

My point is far from nonsense, you are trying to claim that CoC got an 8th seed because it was in the SoCon and that is not true. It was in the A-Sun that earned it rep. In 94 they were a 12 seed and lost to Wake 68-58. In 97 they were a 12th seed and beat a #5 Maryland 75-66 and lost ot a #4 Arizona 73-69 and in 98 they were a 14th seed and lost to Stanford 67-57 so yeah when they came into the SoCon that 1st year in 99 and went 28-3 overall and 19-0 in the SoCon they had the record and recent success in the A-Sun to get that high of a seed. Actually a for a team to go 28-3 and only get a an 8 proves how little respect the SoCon gets. ETSU only get a 10 seed when they end the season ranked 17th in the nation also speaks volumes as to how much respect the SoCon gets. OF course Talford injury contributed to that some what as well.

The A-Sun of the mid-90s was nothing like what it is today- I believe it even had a different name.

C of C never got an eight seed in that conference and played a So Con schedule.

Or did C of C join the So Con in order to move DOWN in college basketball prestige?

It's nonsense and your shilling for ETSU and attempts to bring whatever lame arguements you can make to say "We're still good!" are laughable.

However, if you would like to get a paying job to find out if Kim Reece was fooling around with ballplayers, I think a few of us would be willing to front up some cash.

Don't you mean Fat Kim? lmfao

Boy, what's all the criticism for Kim Reece all of the sudden.

Granted she has an attitude and goes nuts with the articles about the inner workings of college athletics that nobody cares about- but what happened with her where her rep would fall so low here?

Well I like BucNCrazy feels she is very annoying.

Her rep hasn't fallen. Its just a bunch of new posters from the ETSU Athletic Department or the like who are looking to discredit her because they know she was right all along. They have to blame somebody for their shortcomings. And I mean shortcomings in every sense of the word. Bucster can make personal derogatory remarks because 1) he/she can hide behind his/her screen name and 2) he/she has nothing worthwhile to say so he/she just stirs up crap about her. At least her name is out there and people know who she is...and in case they've forgotten or don't know, you print her real name every chance you get. Whether you agree with her or not she does have credibility. Bucster and the like on the otherhand have nothing. I used to enjoy reading this board, but there is no longer any real discussion. You seem to always have to have the last word.

I disagree I think there is a lot of great discussion on this board much more than the soconhoops board. There is a great discussion on here concerning the NCAA seedings..while at the soconhoops board you have a thread that is over a year old as the top thread on the forum. Plus on this board we actually discuss sports at ETSU while the soconhoops board is just used for Kimmy and her panhandling. I think pitt will agree with me on this..but this board never had any problems until fat Kim came on here spreading all of her propaganda. Right Pitt?

the Kim Reece bashing can stop. You anonymous insults smell of someone who has a vendetta. Bring some substance to these arguments and discussions, rather than personal insults. You lose all credibility when you demean someone behind the could of a message board screen name. All this woman does is give facts, figures, and stories on the landscape of college athletics. If the current ETSU administration had half of the knowledge of the ever-changing landscape of college athletics, ETSU would not be in the predicament in which they are. She has a desire, like most on this board, to see ETSU athletics as a positive representative of our school.

As far as the personal information that has been spouted by the several posters on this board in regards to Kim, you are totally off base and discussing things that, quiet frankly, you have no clue about.

If you think she's annoying, that's ok. If you think she distributes information in the wrong way, that's fine. I can assure you that while she was at ETSU, Kim Reece never approached the line of being unprofessional. She gave more time, effort, and energy to the student-athletes in that department than anyone else. She was dedicated to EVERY kid who donned the blue and gold. People can tout Ed DeChellis' grad rate all day long. However, if you ask any kid that walked through Kim's cramped office for the years she was there, they will tell you that Kim Recce motivated, guided, and encouraged them from being wide-eyed freshmen to college graduates.

I will not read this board again. However, if you have issues with this post, e-mail me at bearcat112@hotmail.com and we can discuss it.

Wait a minute.

Who for YEARS has stated how gutless it was to post behind a cloak of anonymity?

So where was Kim when I had anonymous posters left and right pull out undeserved insults on me and out and out falsehoods?

If there is anyone- ANYONE with a vendetta out there it is Kim Reece. She is the epitome of a disgruntled employee and her demeanor speaks of such.

And for you to give her credit for DeChellis' grad rate- my GOD- when he was an assistant at Penn State it was 100%!

Was Kim Reece up there at the time or did DeChellis know a real student athlete when he saw one?

I have asked her for some serious facts about the Football Foundation. She has chosen to instead take the attitude "HOW DARE YOU QUESTION OUR CREDIBILITY!!!!!"

Because nothing is happening but golf outings- that's how I dare.

I'd be willing to put up a small wager that Kim put some of her old cronies up to posting these defenses of her- a guy like Bearcat making one post up and saying "I will not come back to this board again!" speaks of such an action.

Hey, Kim- why don't you get one of your old tutorial subjects to post on here and tell me where it's at?

What's the matter- they got better things to do?

PERSONAL ATTACKS ON THIS BOARD WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

This is your final warning. If it starts again, you will be banned.