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I told my son just a minute ago that the ONE thing I hope to see come out of this is that Revs. Sharpton and Jackson and the many civil rights people who are so rightly angry about Imus' comments will put a similar effort into effecting change among "their own people" with respect to that kind of language. Blatant disrespect for self and others such as calling women hos, etc., CAN bring Imus-type attempts at humor, which are guaranteed to blow up in their faces. Cosby's comments about responsibility and so on raised a firestorm last year, but his comments need to be repeated by MANY more to be effective and helpful.
04-13-2007 05:48 PM
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pono Wrote:The point is that he used the media to play an effective role in addressing racism as it pertained for decades to NFL hiring and management practices. Please provide proof that the NFL hiring and Managment was "racist". I am looking for something more than "there weren't many coaches or higer ups". That in itself ain't proof.

Ego driven = yes, but let's not shift the blame onto him cause he's not the problem. I blame him for this country becoming more polarized. His many fake claims of "racism"(for $$$) are having that effect. If he would FINALLY admit that there are MAJOR problems in the African American community and help start reversing those problems, you will see less polarization.

As for Steven Smith, who I find much less interesting than he finds himself, I think if he slipped into a phony Southern drawl and called an impressive underdog NASCAR team "a bunch a backwoods hicks that cozy up to their cousins" or something like that. He would also face a serious backlash and possibly lose his job, too. No. He would face a small backlash(at best) but there is no way in hell he would ever lose his job over it.
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This probably should be moved to the MAC Spin Room.
04-13-2007 06:16 PM
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So move it! ;-)
04-13-2007 06:21 PM
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DocBluez Wrote:This probably should be moved to the MAC Spin Room.
I suspect you didn't like my post. ;-)
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RobertN Wrote:
pono Wrote:The point is that he used the media to play an effective role in addressing racism as it pertained for decades to NFL hiring and management practices. Please provide proof that the NFL hiring and Managment was "racist". I am looking for something more than "there weren't many coaches or higer ups". That in itself ain't proof.

Ego driven = yes, but let's not shift the blame onto him cause he's not the problem. I blame him for this country becoming more polarized. His many fake claims of "racism"(for $$$) are having that effect. If he would FINALLY admit that there are MAJOR problems in the African American community and help start reversing those problems, you will see less polarization.

As for Steven Smith, who I find much less interesting than he finds himself, I think if he slipped into a phony Southern drawl and called an impressive underdog NASCAR team "a bunch a backwoods hicks that cozy up to their cousins" or something like that. He would also face a serious backlash and possibly lose his job, too. No. He would face a small backlash(at best) but there is no way in hell he would ever lose his job over it.

I'm not gonna do the research but NFL head coaching and upper management was an almost exclusively white club until jackson and others got engaged with the issue and brought a lot of change.

Don't want to get too involved in the other topics as this is a sports board, but there's a lot of good things in the black community and the problems amongst poor blacks are rooted in much more complex social and economic history than Jesse Jackson or anyone is gonna change through some talk about responsibility.

I've yet to hear a rapper call a woman a "nappy headed ho". Yes, the word "ho" is way overused but pairing it with "nappy head" is profoundly racist.

Most rap music is purchased by white people. Secondly, latinos, asians and native americans as a group purchase more than blacks, as well.

There is a plethora of mature, creative and engaging rap music out there, but it gets little promotional, industry or media support. Many rappers are effectively blacklisted for political content, but MTV, et al will promote sexist less talented crap all day if it has a good beat and people watch it. the Black Eyed Peas were well respected but a commercial failure for years as a group who emphasized uplifting socially conscious hip hop. When they added a barely dressed white girl who excels in raps about her body and sex appeal and switched to sex and club scene themes they went multi platinum and got enormous media opportunities.

If you are gonna be knee jerk critical of hip hop and black pop culture please go rent Dave Chappelle's Block Party. it's a fun movie and provides a great intro to what the culture is really about and the artists who are well loved and carefully listened to but don't get on the TV or radio.

damn, i posted again on the topic and only superficially referenced sports, sorry Karl
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lmfao Pono, you're a good man. Post on.
04-14-2007 01:08 PM
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