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please come to the mac with basketball..
i thing we have an upcomming basketball league, temple would be another step towards improving the mac imige ;-) ....
11-26-2006 11:51 PM
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Temple would do for us in BB what Marshall did for FB. They would force better recruiting. I have observed Temple since we played them in the 2000 NCAAs. Even tho we beat them last week at KSU, they do not look like a MAC team. Their players are 6-8 to 6-10 where we are 6-5 to 6-7. The real difference is in the body types. They even make Q look smaller. we were fortunate to win that game and it is good that we are so athletic. Look for Temple to not miss a beat in their BB quality. Right now, I would say that Ohio U and KSU are the only teams coming close to breaking the MAC player type level in recruiting. Temple would help us much.

I do not believe that Temple would ever join the MAC for BB. They have the east coast thing going and the Philly Big 5 is a big part of their culture. Their recruiting would most likely suffer my joining us. This is another way of saying that Temple is using the MAC in FB because they have to.
11-27-2006 10:50 AM
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I have just read your disscussion on your other board regading the all sports affliation. The overwhelming majority of you guys seem to have no interest in expanding our relationship. I believe that the MAC is perhaps the fastest growing conference in football. I also believe you would raise our profile in basketball and compete very favorably and qualify virtually every year in this sport. The eastern teams and leauges that you long for threw you out of thier conference. We offered you a home and a future with us and now you want to crawl back to them? Even more puzzling is the vocal minority that says go 1AA. Don't think for a moment that your views are not being noticed. Be careful what you wish for. Get on board!!
12-04-2006 10:46 PM
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Not so fast my friend
We're an eastern team and if an eatern league will have us then that's where we should be. However, if we get shunned again by the Big Least look for us to go "all in" with the MAC and dominate football and basketball for a few years until the Big 10 offers us to join as the 12th team.

FYI- take a look at Scout.com. Temple is leading all MAC schools in football recruiting and we haven't even played an official conference game yet.

"I fear we have awoken a sleeping giant.
12-29-2006 08:55 PM
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Ok I have a few problems with your post philly.

First off you've been shunned by the Big Least once. How many times do you need to be told by them that you aren't wanted before you figure that out?

Say what you will about the MAC but you're actually wanted here despite your record. Why? Because we're a conference that's survived for half a century while constantly running uphill. People were predicted the demise of the MAC in the 60's and it never happened. I'd say we're a safer bet then all the other "flash in the pan" conferences that have been created in the last decade.

Also if you think the Big 10 is looking to Temple then you are sorely mistaken. First off, you have to prove you can win in the MAC East before you would become the new Big 10 whipping boy. Secondly the Big 10 wants Notre Dame. No one else. Not you, not Missouri, not Iowa St (all of which are teams that would be chosen before Temple). So unless you can put forth consistent winning programs in all sports you should look to get very comfortable in the MAC.
01-01-2007 08:09 PM
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Not one for sarcasm are you?
I won't even get into it as the above post was meant to be latent with sarcasm however I think that the Big East would be interested in a program with the following resume:

1. MAC Champions (just wait)
2. #1 Facilities in the MAC
3. 33,000+ student body
4. Basketball team with a few Final Four appearances, 2 national titles, and a crap load of Elite 8 appearances.

This also doesn't mention our world class women's basketball, gymnastics, field hockey, and baseball teams that have outperformed the other current MAC programs for eons.

We appreciate the temporary stay but we'll be moving to greener pastures eventually. See Marshall and/or UCF.
01-02-2007 06:53 PM
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Please don't ttink all Temple fans are like that of Phillyflash..The football program and its fans should be greatful for the MAC and its willingness to take a chance on Temple... Unless you forgot TU is bad a football and draws barley any fan support for such a large school. Big Eat maybe in at least a few years only if start winningthough, Big 10 funniest thing I have ever herd. Anyway Temple has a long way to come before we can start trash talking and speculating what conferance they are leaving for.. Most importantly the program has to start winning at their own school.
01-02-2007 08:21 PM
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Wow
Again, the Big 11 Comment = Sarcasm. I am definately greatful to the MAC for taking us but you are living in a fantasy world if you think one person within the TU admin thinks that this is a permanent stay for us. There will be one more conference reconfiguration between 2010-2013. If Temple puts together a winning football program by this time they will be in great position to rejoin the Big East or move with a couple of other MAC schools to a new look CUSA.

The Big East knew what it was doing when it kicked us out the first time. They knew it would make us improve on what we had and they knew that the powers that be who ran Temple at the time would not be in power some years down the road.

I love how pretty much every MAC fan here has sh*t all over our school the past 2 years and thinks we don't have a chance of competing in the MAC. Based on this you can bet your ascott that I'm going to carry a chip on my shoulder with every post I make on this site. Time will tell but Al Golden is doing something special at Broad & Diamond and I think it's only a matter of time before some of these MAc fans will notice.
01-02-2007 09:06 PM
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Temple
Don't get me wrong I want Temple to turn their program around but first I wouldn't say Marshall and UCF have moved on to "greener pastures. Only one has had any success in football since leaving the MAC and that was only one year. They are now finding out what the travel costs of packing every team up and taking them cross country for conference games is like.

Temple needs to first convince the people of Philly that football is worth keeping before it talks of moving to another conference.

The problem with the MAC is everyone in it thinks they should have one foot out the door. People need to realize this conference is marketable if only it's fans and schools would show more loyalty. Temple should realize that it can help the MAC and the MAC can help it. They should each make long term commitments to one another.

And don't give me this +33k student body crap. Toledo has 24K students and pulls in about 20k to it's games. WVU has 23k and pulls in 60k. How many students you have doesn't mean crap. How many people you put in the stands does.
01-03-2007 10:18 PM
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I kind of agree
I personally like the MAC but I agree with you regarding the one foot out the door comment. Unfortunately the only thing we can blame this on is the BCS and until that monopoly crumbles it will never change.

I agree with most of what you say except for the part about the size of the student body. Having 33,000 students is a huge advantage to selling tickets if you are competitive. TU used to draw upwards of 40k in the mid 70s- early 80s when they were competitive with programs like Penn State. Don't tell me that a good portion of those students wouldn't go to see Temple in a Bowl Game. Temple also has an alumni base of over 250,000 fans within 50 miles of its campus.

Bottom Line: Give people a reason to buy the cheapest sports tickets in town at one of country's premier stadiums for a college football game and they will show. 0-11 or 1-10 won't do that. Even when Temple was the doormat of the Big East they managed to draw 25k. If Temple becomes a MAC giant it will be very hard for the Big East not to invite Temple as their ninth team. It will be harder for Temple to turn them down. It will then be easy to draw people to Temple football games in droves.
01-04-2007 12:16 AM
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