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I should have added earlier. That link to the Kansas City Star who is going on as much pure speculation and rumor as we are. Though, GFlash68, I do trust your "sources."

Christian may have gone looking for this job, but don't let this guy change your mind on the subject or your opinion of Christian with one line in a newspaper.

Worst case scenario is that Christian is actively looking because he knew last year was his best chance for a few years with all of the seniors. Seeing the potential of the younger players, however, I don't believe that.
08-02-2006 11:25 PM
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"Acively looking" and "Happy at Kent State" are not mutually exclusive for a young, aggressive head coach that wants to continually do better.

J.C. has been with us for five years. High major jobs come open a few
times a year for the long list of coaches who want to move up. A coach who wants to show his drive and competitveness isn't going to wait for the phone hoping it rings. If J.C. did reach out, I just take it as the same uber competitve spirit thats helped us win games we should have lost. Remember the players talking aboout time outs when they were behind at Bulter and YSU. They descibed J.C. with fire in his eyes rallying them to go back out and fght.

One of the things I like best about J.C. is his "go get it" attitude. Someday, it will get him another job. I don't think it means he doesn't like us.
08-03-2006 06:31 AM
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Flashfan, you are right on. If in any other business a position opened up that paid more and was a potentially more prestigious position higher ranked than your current one why wouldn't you knock down some doors to see if you're qualified? JC isn't begging to get out of Kent, he just wants the best for his career, just like you said, why wait by the phone.
regardless of what happens JC is a good coach, he has become better over the years and probably will continue to improve. i wish him the best, but hopefully he will stick around a few more years.
08-03-2006 06:09 PM
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Are we forgetting that with the past 3 months he just signed a new extension to his contract? In no other business that I know of, can you sign a contract for 5 years and then before the ink is dry, start sending out resumes hoping to land more pay. I would just say that in the coaching profession, it is generally accepted that if a higher position recruits you, then you may be justifed in listening. I do however, have trouble in signing and getting the security of 5 years of pretty good pay, and then trying to actively recruit another job. Sorry, my parents taught me a little differently in another age and time.
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who the bleep would want to be head basketball coach at nebraska??? 01-wingedeagle totally lame-ass job.. big 12 or not, don't understand why anyone would want that job.. unless going there to gain experience/prove themselves (which JC has alreay done) or the $$$$$. i guess $$$$ is the answer.

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08-03-2006 06:58 PM
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For the reasons stated, I don't think J.C. wanting more and liking us are mutually exclusive decisions. Still, not going to get worked up over a second or third hand report in the press. Just think about it...if J.C. is tight with the Nebraska A.D. and assistant, why would he be calling around to alumni to express his interest, anyway?

Besides, Laing's only official comment was on Monday afternoon, when he said no one from Nebraska had called to ask permission to speak to J.C. So, perhaps the press reports that this was a swift done deal were wrong. Given NU expected Collier to leave for over a week, if J.C. and Fox were their only guys, wouldn't they move faster?

On a related topic, our small time, country bumpkin (or whatever he's called) AD negotiated a clause in J.C.'s extension that makes him much harder to steal after June 1. If it's money, NU could do it. But word is it may have something to do with conditions under which J.C. leaves, such as opportunity to back fill or who goes with him.

I suppose J.C. could still go, but the longer this lingers, the more apparent it is that the press insiders claiming a swift hire (this week!) have it wrong. So, I'm not going to get worked up over who they say he called.
08-03-2006 08:55 PM
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I can't disagree with moving to a bigger program and getting more $. Don't most people want to move up?

I do disagree that you can't compare sports and college basketball with regular business. There are some similarities, but you just can't compare them.

I want him to stay, but if Nebraska gives him a good offer, he might be crazy to not take it.
08-03-2006 11:21 PM
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According to Andy Katz, Nebraska is starting interviews with someone else, and J.C. seems to have fallen back on their list.

Doesn't look like the done deal it was last Sunday.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2539076
08-04-2006 02:56 PM
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I think most of us labor under the faulty assumption that high major schools, even a mediocre basketball school like Nebraska, will be blown away by Christian's record at Kent. We see a coach that's done a helluva job. They see a coach who's been to the NCAA Tournament but once, a lopsided first round loss. That's not to say that Christian won't ultimately move on, but he may be an NCAA win or two away from being a major player on the big time scene.
08-04-2006 04:04 PM
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Bingo. I told that to OU fans last year when they thought O'Shea was the hot-shot selection for every major job.
08-04-2006 04:14 PM
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Kentville and KStud are right. I admit that in earlier posts, I was expressing my views based upon the assumption that the early reports were correct. Now, it appears that they may well have been premature. If you really think about, and while we like Christian as a coach, just what about his record would make him stand out among all the other young, successful coaches? Waters went to the NCAA twice, and beat Indiana. He also won two NIT games. Heath went to the Elite 8. We'll see.
08-04-2006 05:16 PM
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My guess is that JC is 1 or 2 on the list. What is happening now is the end run or the diversion. i do think that Fox is the first choice.
08-04-2006 10:24 PM
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I did not want to imply I thought Christian does not have the credentials for the job. I think this is probably the type of job he would get unless KSU pulls off another Elite 8 run, maybe Sweet 16. This job is a major conference but with little recent tradition and few people who care about it.
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Interestingly, in the word of usually polite PC coach speak, Collier in an Andy Katz interview descibed NU as a crappy job ( my words, his desciption) with little fan suport, a small state to recruit from and forced recruting on the coasts or overseas. To top it off, NU called the South Alabama coach, who won a whopping 15 games in CUSA last year, and was turned down.

I still think J.C. is on a short list. Still, it doesn't appear to be as locked up as reported. Their AD has already asked for permission and met with Fox. No word from Laing on permission, except for last Monday when he reported no one has called. ( I do realize lots can hapen since Monday.)

I could see a game if it was last spring with lots of moving pieces and options. But if J.C. was a done deal last weekend, they sure are wasting a lot of everyone's August time on a dance. School starts everywhere, with individual coach work outs allowed, in three weeks.
08-05-2006 07:56 AM
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I tend to agree he might not be that hot a commodity yet. Wasn't he out of basket ball for 3 years? That would certainly wave a red flag when reviewing his resume. I'm pretty sure Waters would have left earlier but he probably didn't get a good offer until he beat Indiana that year.
08-05-2006 08:27 AM
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Apparently, they are bracing in El Paso.

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08-06-2006 03:33 PM
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well ...jc will be here foR at least a couple of years, he could have a great team verry soon ...the quality of player comming into the program improves every year... im telling you soon there will be A top 20 rank mac basketball team year in and year out .and i just think is going to be kent...if that happens there could be a little more money for A coach.. and we could keep one longer..we caN ONLY DREAM.......I LIKE TO GO TO SLEEP AND WAKE UP IN NOVEMBER AND SKIP ALL THIS FOOTBALL STUFF ..ILL ADMIT ...I ALSO LIKE FOOTBALL BUT THERE IS NOTHING 02-13-banana 02-13-banana 02-13-banana 02-13-banana LIKE HOOPS.......DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THE DEPAUL TRANSFER IS A DONE DEAL???
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Christian has taken himself out of consideration. 02-13-banana

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08-07-2006 07:54 AM
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The former DePaul player is at a Texas JUCO this season. He has indicated he wants to play for Kent, but we won't know for sure until the next signing period begins in November.
08-07-2006 04:42 PM
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I think it takes at least one win in the NCAA Tourney and likely two in order for Christian to get a Nebraska, etc. type job. It's that kind of nationwide attention that gets people's attention. Winning one MAC Tourney is not enough for an AD to sell his President and Alumni.
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