Play it at Dix Stadium in Kent. It's guaranteed to be a neutral sight! :crying:



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Most of the stadium is BRAND NEW! Never been used. There are seats no butt has ever touched in 30 years.... :crying:

it was a no brainer to show MU/BSU. not much of a game and didn't change the fact we are MAC east champs, but it was the ONLY game to choose for a national audience. now, if it were only for mac fans, sure bg toledo would be the choice. however, espn is concerned about viewers nation wide, not just in ohio.

If Toledo wins the MACC again, will you be crawling back into your hole for another year?

Marco Wrote:it was a no brainer to show MU/BSU. not much of a game and didn't change the fact we are MAC east champs, but it was the ONLY game to choose for a national audience. now, if it were only for mac fans, sure bg toledo would be the choice. however, espn is concerned about viewers nation wide, not just in ohio.

National audience? Dog shows on Animal Planet do better ratings numbers than that Marshall-Ball State game.

And, I think the point others here have tried to make is that teams like UT and BG would develop more national appeal if the MAC office worked proactively to ensure that more than one team in the league gets repeat TV exposure.

no way. they just don't have the Herd appeal. I think we can trust the professionals to decide what game to show. Should they poll a punch of guys who's support for their team is basically limited to message board posting?? i think not. bg and toledo will never be the draw that Marshall is. afterall, WE ARE Marshall. we're the MAC Daddy and the MAC office and ESPN are going to ride that horse. simple

Actually, I thought that it was a travesty to show the MU/BSU game...I would MUCH rather have watched the UT/BG game...Well, I DID go to the Marshall game, but I still wanted to see UT and BG play...

Marco Wrote:no way. they just don't have the Herd appeal. I think we can trust the professionals to decide what game to show. Should they poll a punch of guys who's support for their team is basically limited to message board posting?? i think not. bg and toledo will never be the draw that Marshall is. afterall, WE ARE Marshall. we're the MAC Daddy and the MAC office and ESPN are going to ride that horse. simple

You've got to be kidding, Marco. The MAC Daddy? Maybe daddy's b!+ch, but not Daddy. Sure, leave it to the professionals. The same kind of professionals who set up the BCS. You know, the kind who "screwed" an undefeated MUg out of a BCS game a few years ago. The kind who left MUr and UT home a few years ago.

Byron better be able to move on Saturday, or Hill is gonna see a lot of action. And not the kind he likes, either. Can't wait for this one! :saber:

Quote:i think not. bg and toledo will never be the draw that Marshall is. afterall, WE ARE Marshall. we're the MAC Daddy and the MAC office and ESPN are going to ride that horse. simple

:snore:

Marco Wrote:no way. they just don't have the Herd appeal. I think we can trust the professionals to decide what game to show. Should they poll a punch of guys who's support for their team is basically limited to message board posting?? i think not. bg and toledo will never be the draw that Marshall is. afterall, WE ARE Marshall. we're the MAC Daddy and the MAC office and ESPN are going to ride that horse. simple

Don't forget about all the "publicity" with the NCAA!

Before saying Marshall is the MAC daddy, I suggest you look at titles won...and you have a long way to go to catch Miami, Bowling Green and Toledo. Ball State and Ohio have 5 titles and CMU has 4...as many as the Herd. And please don't give me any "the last 5 years" stuff....I am talking about history here...since 1946 when the MAC was founded.
BG and UT compete with dozens of teams, pro and college, within a 2 hour drive....who does Marshall compete with? The Charlestown Chiefs minor league hockey team? Hanson brothers rule!!!
The Herd is the only team in Huntington.

Falconfreak90 Wrote:

Marco Wrote:no way. &nbsp;they just don't have the Herd appeal. &nbsp;I think we can trust the professionals to decide what game to show. &nbsp;Should they poll a punch of guys who's support for their team is basically limited to message board posting?? &nbsp;i think not. &nbsp;bg and toledo will never be the draw that Marshall is. &nbsp;afterall, WE ARE Marshall. &nbsp;we're the MAC Daddy and the MAC office and ESPN are going to ride that horse. &nbsp;simple

Don't forget about all the "publicity" with the NCAA!

Before saying Marshall is the MAC daddy, I suggest you look at titles won...and you have a long way to go to catch Miami, Bowling Green and Toledo. Ball State and Ohio have 5 titles and CMU has 4...as many as the Herd. And please don't give me any "the last 5 years" stuff....I am talking about history here...since 1946 when the MAC was founded.
BG and UT compete with dozens of teams, pro and college, within a 2 hour drive....who does Marshall compete with? The Charlestown Chiefs minor league hockey team? Hanson brothers rule!!!
The Herd is the only team in Huntington.

IF you drive real fast, OSU is 2 hours from Huntington.

So I guess Marshall competes with OSU for fans just the same way as you do?

well, I can see where you all have an arguement. since we rejoined in 1997 toledo's 4 of 6 MAC West titles and 1 win and 2 losses in the MACC is certainly impressive....................however, call me crazy but i'll take 6 MAC Easts and a 4 - 1 MACC record anyday............soon to be 5-1.

not surprised by the logic around here though

Quote:And please don't give me any "the last 5 years" stuff....I am talking about history here...since 1946 when the MAC was founded.

Ancient history don't mean squat. Yale has 16 national championships in Division I-A football. Does that make them a football powerhouse?

buck5y5. Wrote:If we can't find a neutral site, I don't have a problem with continuing the game the way it is now.

The ONLY change I would like to make is this:

Instead of going to the East or West champion, I think that you should have a predetermined east or west site to hold the game.

For example, let's say that the championship game is going to played at Toledo next year, then at Marshall in 2004.

That way the site has a year to prepare for the game and to promote it.

It also leaves open the chance of it being a neutral site, while also not giving the advantage to either the east or west because the game will rotate.

Just an idea.

Hmmm. That sounds familiar. Hasn't that been tried before.

Well, with that plan............based on a review of the last 5 years..........it has a much better chance of being on a Neutral field when Toledo is the predetermined site...............buhahahahahahahahaha

they took a couple of years off there in 99 and 00 to rest up from the spankings.

Maybe the game wasn't about Marshall. Maybe the MAC knew Lynch was getting fired. Maybe they just wanted to show a West team that doesn't get any publicity. Perhaps BSU felt that was their only hope at having any kind of recruiting class this year. Two teams played that day. You wanted the UT/BUGS game on, understandably. Both of you get or got TV this year. Ball State would not have if not for that last game. Easy to point fingers at us. Division mate BSU should be pointing fingers at you. You would deny them their only TV appearance probably this decade. Selfish and self-centered, you didn't even consider that side of the coin.



yeah I know I'm full of sh!t

If ESPN called the shots and they picked Marshall-BSU, well, then that's "that". But if the MAC had any say whatsoever in that decision, you would've thought that they'd try to twist ESPN's arm to get the much better choice on TV. With BG-UT you had a rivalry game that meant something played in front of essentially a SO crowd.......that's the kind of exposure a conference like the MAC needs.....not a badly limping Byron still shredding an overmatched BSU team in front of a half empty stadium. C'mon, guys, give me a break.....if you're the commish, what game do you want on?

As for the TV ratings, I just can't accept that the Herd-BSU game did very well......it was a pretty awful game to watch actually, and was over by halftime. And before Herd fans pillor me, yes, I watched the game (well, at least until the middle of the 3rd quarter, and I'm a huge MAC fan). If the Herd were playing BG, I would've wanted to see them play but BG was playing UT in a game that meant a bowl.....that's the game I wanted to see, and of course it was a much better game and would've been a much more positive image for the conference.

Oh yeah, this thread is about the MACC.........I like Cincy as a location......too bad it's bad PR to use Nippert Stadium.....it's the perfect size (35K) for the MACC, and Cincy is a great town for pre-game parties and pretty close to many of the MAC's teams (not to mention the furtherest south other than maybe H-ton). I still like the Canton HOF "tie in".......I used to live in Ohio, and would've considered going to a MACC even if Miami wasn't in it if the game was in Canton.....my two boys would enjoy the HOF visit and all.

Actually, Nippert wouldn't be a bad idea for a location.
It's the right size (35K)

You can have beer at the game (thanks to a little known loophole on the University of Cincinnati campus which sold the ground that the Nip and Shoemaker sit on to the city of Cincinnati in order to allow the bengals to play there back in the day......it was done so they could sell beer at the games, so the city owns that ground instead of the university...technically making them both off campus sites)

It looks damn good on TV

There's a video scorebored with full replay

And best of all, it's in Clifton, drug capitol of cincinnati, and oddly representative of toledo, and akron!

GreenBBS, I don't think the MAC would sincerely consider Nippert, since it's the home field of a C-USA team. Too bad in a way, 'cause it's the perfect spot and size (plus has artificial turf and although I don't really like it, it's probably a good thing that late in the season). PB Stadium would be OK, but there'd be lots of empty seats unless either Marshall or Miami was in the game.

the artificial turf would be key b/c the turf at PBS is god awful after october