My thoughts on todays game:

This should turn out to be quite a game. The only question that remains is, Can either defense stop each other?? I'm particularly worried about Akron's defense, though they've been playing much better lately - even though the teams haven't been BCS calibur.

Since 1996, when the Zips beat Miami 10-7 ( I remember that game...it was excellent), this game has been interesting every year. Both teams have been in the games, so this year hopefully will be the same way.

The Hawks are TOUGH. They handily beat Colorado State, and I'm worried about their passing attack with our DBs. Only time will tell.

Can't wait till kickoff!!!

Go Zips!

Yeah AO.
It wasn't a D1-AA, or a basement dweller.
When the coaching staff had to to some work to have the team ready, they can't do it.

Please tell your husband, dad, cousin, friend , or what ever it is that Owens is to you to please resign.
We may be able to have a decent team in a few years if he quits now.

This team should be 6-0.
Maybe they will win 5-6 games this year. After all, they have some cupcakes on their schedule. They can't beat a legitimate team. Close calls, moral victories don't count.

We need a new coaching staff.

What a joke the Zip performance was yesterday. This team was not prepared to play football and got throttled. The most absurd thing I heard all week was how this Akron team was "hot" winning 7 of the last 11 games. What a load of crap. Yeah, the team won 7 of the last 11 games against CRAP teams - Buffalo twice, Eastern Michigan, Kent State, Marshall with a broken QB, plus 1-AA's Liberty and Howard. Only one team out of the seven was decent and the 4 losses came against Ohio, Kent State, Wisconsin and Central Florida. Two of these games had double digit blown leads and theother two were close but Akron failed to seize the moments and ended up getting thumped. All Akron U can do is beat joke teams and come up with a decent win every 5 years if every star in the sky lines up right.

This team has no leadership from the top and the program is dead without new coaches in 2004. :mad:

Tough loss yesterday for the Zips. Made things interesting at 24-20, but it seems like every game this year and probably the past few years...anytime the Zips need a big offensive play on 3rd down, they give up a sack. That's upsetting. That gets on my last nerve. Charlie played with a concussion the 2nd half, and I think that was a big factor down in the redzone when he threw his two INTs.

The Miami fans/student body have again confirmed their classless behavior. The whole student body behind the Akron team bench(which I believe is against MAC policy), blowing horns both by the phones(connecting players to coaches, etc) and blowing horns in the coaches pressbox. What classy fans - I guess they take after their coaches. (note the Marshall game)

Save Charlie's two INTs in the redzone and this game is a whole different ballgame. I wasn't pleased with the OLine, they got #5 hit WAY too much and didn't give Bobby any running room. Our defense stepped it up when they needed to - then got the wind knocked out of them after the 98 yard TD drive after the INT on the 2 yd. line. That killed the Zips in the end, IMO.

Good to see the Zips brought a decent number, sad to see the lack of class by Miami fans, but its what I expected and what can ya do?

Another thing - Miami isn't Buffalo, or Howard. Miami is a tough football team that beat Colorado State handily. They'll beat a lot of MAC teams handily this year, and as far as I'm concerned had a couple of things gone the Zips way they had a shot at winning this ballgame. So while I'm not happy with a loss, again, it's not like it was to a crappy team. Big Ben was pretty tough. I was pretty impressed with him.

Thats all from me for right now.

AkronObsessed Wrote:The Miami fans/student body have again confirmed their classless behavior. The whole student body behind the Akron team bench(which I believe is against MAC policy), blowing horns both by the phones(connecting players to coaches, etc) and blowing horns in the coaches pressbox.

The band and students have always been located behind the opposing team's bench. Your coaching staff knows this and should have been prepared. (And in another display of "classlessness", the band actually moved back from where they usually are, at the request of the Akron staff. If the MAC did make a policy change about this, it has never been officially announced. And I can guarantee you, Miami would honor such a policy if it were in place.

As far as your whining about the horns, I know it may come as a shock that some fans somewhere might make some noise. If this bothers you and your coaches and your players, please make a note to never make an away trip to any of the stadia at the following schools:

Ohio State
Louisiana State
Florida
Georgia
Virginia Tech
Michigan
Penn State
Nebraska
Alabama
Marshall
Tennessee
Florida State
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Iowa
Notre Dame
Clemson
Auburn
among others.

You may find it more useful to make trips to Vanderbilt, Eastern Michigan, Northwestern, and any Conference USA school.

Red,

Relax. Akron Obsessed is somehow involved with someone on this coaching staff. He/she always finds blame/excuses, instead of seeing the light that this coaching staff is the worst in D1.
I very much appreciate how positive he/she is, but eventually he/she will have to admit that the reason this team constantly finds ways to lose is becasue the staff sucks.

Wrong again buckzip, get over yourself.


redsteve, I don't care that the fans had horns. Believe it or not, by some miracle or another, Akron has actually played somewhere bigger and more prestigious than Miami!!! Imagine that one!!! Ohio State, Nebraska, Penn State, Kansas State, LSU, Navy, Virginia, Maryland, Virginia Tech, among others.

I DO care however that the fans were literally and purposely blowing the horns into the coaching pressbox and down by the phones when a coach or player would try to communicate. I also heard that both schools' ADs talked about this, and supposedly the Miami AD said "this is Miami, we can do what we want" - yet again a classy comment coming right from the top.

The MAC DOES have a policy on home student sections heckling and tormenting opposing teams at their bench. Obviously, Miami has not enforced it as you said. They obviously haven't enforced keeping opposing pressbox's in decent condition after a loss (lol note Marshall)either.

Say what you want but you are wrong and classless - you know it, the MAC fans know it, and anybody else who wants to play you will know it.

AkronObsessed Wrote:The whole student body behind the Akron team bench(which I believe is against MAC policy), blowing horns both by the phones(connecting players to coaches, etc) and blowing horns in the coaches pressbox.

Miami students seated in the Akron coaches' box.... are those general admission or reserved seats?? :D

AO, I know perfectly well that you have played and lost at bigger schools just as well as you played and lost in Oxford. And I would be willing to bet that those crowds tried to get into the players' and coaches' heads and disrupt them as much as -- if not more than -- Miami fans tried to do yesterday. I am sure the only difference between those crowds and ours is that you love to whine about our crowds.

And I am sure that if I came to the Rubber Bowl next year, no Akron fan would be making any noise in an effort to distract and/or disrupt the Miami bench. Right? Because you guys are sooooooo respectful and classy to your opponents. And I am sure that if your AD were confronted with any fan wrongdoing, he would tell our AD "don't worry, I will go down there and personally make things better so your team can hear." :rolleyes:

Maimi is a very classless team. Way to go down with and score with 15 seconds left in the game. what did that prove not a hole lot. For akron credit the game was a lot closer then what the scoreboard read. umm frye had an ok game but the 2int did not help. Ben had a good game as well i give him a lot of credit. He is the real deal. Akron is going to be all right they should get the win this saturday!






Go Zips Go!!!!!! :wave:

RedSteve Wrote:And I am sure that if I came to the Rubber Bowl next year, no Akron fan would be making any noise in an effort to distract and/or disrupt the Miami bench. Right?

Hey, Akron's fans are great Steve! Don't sell those five guys short! They're a rowdy bunch, they are!

zips fan 5 Wrote:Maimi is a very classless team. Way to go down with and score with 15 seconds left in the game. what did that prove not a hole lot. For akron credit the game was a lot closer then what the scoreboard read. umm frye had an ok game but the 2int did not help. Ben had a good game as well i give him a lot of credit. He is the real deal. Akron is going to be all right they should get the win this saturday!






Go Zips Go!!!!!! :wave:

If you asked any coach in the MAC privately, he would tell you that Akron is the dirtiest team in the MAC -- BAR NONE.

Take an honest look at your game film some time. You will see late hits, trash-talking, taunting -- you name it.

I would not run up the score on Marshall, but I would on Akron. Nothing personal against the school or the alumni, but Owens coaches thuggery.

Quote:The Miami fans/student body have again confirmed their classless behavior.  The whole student body behind the Akron team bench(which I believe is against MAC policy), blowing horns both by the phones(connecting players to coaches, etc) and blowing horns in the coaches pressbox.  What classy fans - I guess they take after their coaches. (note the Marshall game)

You should change your handle from "Akron Obsessed" to "Miami Obsessed" - it would probably more accurately convey the attitude you were portraying. RedSteve makes good points about visiting a stadium with fans (I know that's a hard concept for you guys to grasp), but what I will assure you is that WE VIOLATED NO MAC POLICIES ON SATURDAY. The MAC office talked to us, not about our fans being behind the bench, but about our band being behind the bench. We agreed to spread them out and move them up. The MAC said that was fine.

My other post addressed the "class" issue. As soon as Coach Owens stops preaching late hits, come back and talk to us.

Quote:Save Charlie's two INTs in the redzone and this game is a whole different ballgame.  I wasn't pleased with the OLine, they got #5 hit WAY too much and didn't give Bobby any running room.  Our defense stepped it up when they needed to - then got the wind knocked out of them after the 98 yard TD drive after the INT on the 2 yd. line.  That killed the Zips in the end, IMO.

This is funny; allow me to translate: if our QB could read defenses, and if we weren't so predictable on offense that the Miami outside linebacker (who is a sophomore) knew exactly which play was being run, this would have been a whole different ball game. For example, if Ben Roethlisberger were our QB, we would have had a fighting chance in this game. In addition, if our line play were not gawd awful, we'd certainly be better off. Our defense stepped up, except when we had Miami pinned on their own two yardline and then let them cram it down our throats for 98 yards. Oh, and they also failed to step it up the entire fourth quarter, also known as "crunch time." That, and a lack of defensive talent, killed the Zips in the end, IMO.

OK, now please take this in the tongue in cheek manner in which it was intended (except for the late hit part -- that's accurate).

:D

What's wrong AO...didn't enjoy the game?

Akron / MAC Champs. hahahahahaha

You should talk herd fan...you guys played OUTSTANDING against TROY STATE :rolleyes:

About the late hits - paybacks a b!tch isn't it Miami??? What goes around comes around.

Akron is drawing almost 20,000 a game this year, so the "all 5 of the fans" comment was totally stupid on your part - nice try though, although nobody laughed.

Frye is better than Big Ben. Big Ben gets the hype, Frye is the dark horse. Who stats are better? Nuff said. Who is leading an offense who is NUMBER 1 IN THE NATION IN TOTAL OFFENSE? Nuff said. Frye is doing his job - and he's tougher than Ben too. Don't get me wrong Ben is good...infact he's damn good...just not as good as #5 :D

Herd Fan - How's your QB doing? Was that an injury or a hangover?

Quote:About the late hits - paybacks a b!tch isn't it Miami???  What goes around comes around.

Unfortunately, it's your half-talent team that has been late hitting since Owens got to the helm of your program. The only payback being dealt here is Akron players trying to pay back Miami player out of the frustration that comes from playing a rival that won't acknowledge being a rival, and rarely winning against them.

Quote:Who stats are better? Nuff said. Who is leading an offense who is NUMBER 1 IN THE NATION IN TOTAL OFFENSE?

That would be <a href='http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/Internet/national%20rankings/IA_teamtotoff.html' target='_blank'>B.J. Symons. Texas Tech.</a> Akron, despite fattening up on I-AA Howard, Eastern, and Buffalo (which amounts to the <a href='http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc03.htm' target='_blank'>136th-ranked schedule according to Sagarin</a>) is only fourth. Miami, challenged by the 36th-ranked schedule is only three positions behind them.

Remember those numbers for a moment: Akron Schedule: 136. Miami Schedule: 36.

Now, consider that Frye, facing a schedule that is ranked 100 points behind the schedule that Ben has faced, is only 1 position, and .1 point, ahead of Ben in <a href='http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/Internet/national%20rankings/IA_playerpasseff.html' target='_blank'>Passing Efficiency</a>. According to the NCAA, Mr. Frye is now behind Ben in <a href='http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/Internet/national%20rankings/IA_playerpass.html' target='_blank'>passing</a> and <a href='http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/Internet/national%20rankings/IA_playertotoff.html' target='_blank'>total offense</a>.

And Ben did it against real defenses, not those Krispy Kremes that Captain Kangaroo has faced to date. The proof was in the head-to-head results this weekend. Shall we review?

AKRON-FRYE, Charlie 23-42-2-258;
MIAMI-ROETHLISBERGER 31-47-0-369.

Quote:Don't get me wrong Ben is good...infact he's damn good...just not as good as #5

Unfortunately, the stats currently don't support your position.

You forgot to mention Wisconson, or the three other big boys Charlie played last year. (Iowa, Maryland, Virginia) but they're beside the point.

Put Frye in Miami's offense and its a whole new team - I think you know it as well as I do.

You want stats?

Charlie Frye vs. #3 Iowa (2002, a MUCH better Iowa team)


FIRST HALF STATS: 21-29 230 yds. 2 TDs, 0 INTs






Ben Roethlisberger vs. Iowa 2003

GAME STATS: 27-42 250 yds. 0 TD, 4 INTs



How bout those stats? Yup, Krispy Kreme all right. He had better first half stats then Ben did whole game stats, against a MUCH MUCH MUCH better Iowa team than this years.